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Old 18th September 2008, 01:26   #161 (permalink)
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Old 18th September 2008, 01:30   #162 (permalink)
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Old 18th September 2008, 01:36   #163 (permalink)
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I don't even know if you got a point?

You said we defended well. Why don't you show everyone you know what your talking about and then feel free to be 'funni' - otherwise you look all talk without knowing much. Hey it's not a drama, show me up by showing you know what your on about. It's all good
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Old 18th September 2008, 01:36   #164 (permalink)
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Solid game by Jonny I thought. I kind of expect Brown to play at CB and O'Shea and RB on Sunday though.
I hope not. O'Shea at full back is torture. Would rather put Hargreaves there.
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Old 18th September 2008, 01:40   #165 (permalink)
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I don't even know if you got a point?

You said we defended well. Why don't you show everyone you know what your talking about and then feel free to be 'funni' - otherwise you look all talk without knowing much. Hey it's not a drama, show me up by showing you know what your on about. It's all good
Or I could just throw you a length of the proverbial rope and let you hang yourself on your own words.
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Old 18th September 2008, 01:46   #166 (permalink)
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So let me ask you why they didn't test him?.......maybe it's you doing evans the injustice? maybe it's you who assumes they have no idea who he is inspite of impressing against spain for Northern Ireland....why didn't they test him?..

Your stating factual which isn't right. You cannot tell me they would have altered their tactics as a team or from instructions from the coach. it's not park football and a coach cannot afford to think like that against Manchester United. Evans wouldn't play if he was a liability, especially not with vidic and more so brown fit (and o'shea) pat

You can play for xx clubs, playing for United is different when you have to win most games. More so now with our recent results anyway
I don't have a clue what point you're trying to make. You're admitting that he has earned a good enough reputation against good enough opposition for him to be acknowledged as competent at Champions League level by both Fergie and Villareal. Yet you seem to be implying that people praising him are doing so only on the basis of tonight's match.

The bolded bit is a statement of the bloody obvious, but why are you applying it to Evans and none of the alternatives for the Chelsea match? Neville looked far less capable of handling Chelsea than Evans on the basis of tonight, and our other games recently too. O' Shea is hardly a certain success against that level of opposition either. There is nothing in tonight's performance or his career so far to suggest that he's any less capable of facing Chelsea away than either Neville or O' Shea at the moment, which is what I assume you've been trying to say.
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Old 18th September 2008, 02:20   #167 (permalink)
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A future star, but he needs to improve his passing.
That will be a luxury. A central defenders job is to defend and he's pretty decent at it.
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Old 18th September 2008, 02:58   #168 (permalink)
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Can't wait for the Carling Cup game against Middlesbrough..

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Old 18th September 2008, 03:00   #169 (permalink)
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Can't wait for the Carling Cup game against Middlesbrough..

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Welbeck should be worthy of a too.
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Old 18th September 2008, 03:07   #170 (permalink)
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Welbeck should be worthy of a too.
From what I've seen of Welbeck, I'm not a hundred percent yet. Need to see some muppet highlight reels from youtube first.
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Old 18th September 2008, 03:26   #171 (permalink)
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Can't wait for the Carling Cup game against Middlesbrough..

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Manucho Welbeck



Hope we try this at some advanced stage in the comp aswell:

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ronaldo anderson possebon nani

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(That team wouldve been 2-0 up at half time v the team we started with tonight!)
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Old 18th September 2008, 03:32   #172 (permalink)
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Welbeck should be worthy of a too.
Indeed. Welbeck is the most worthy of the lot.
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Old 18th September 2008, 03:36   #173 (permalink)
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Hope we try this at some advanced stage in the comp aswell:

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(That team wouldve been 2-0 up at half time v the team we started with tonight!)
Ferdinand would feel a little bit out of place on the left side though.
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Old 18th September 2008, 03:37   #174 (permalink)
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He was ok today but he isnt ready for Sunday against the big boys.

Brown will be the best option. The problem will be the RB.

Hargreaves will be needed on midfield if we want to at least fight the possesion.
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Old 18th September 2008, 07:26   #175 (permalink)
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He showed flashes of brilliance but his lack of experience was exposed when Rio went out from the defensive line and Villareal nearly scored. He is great in set pieces though.
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Old 18th September 2008, 08:24   #176 (permalink)
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Hope we try this at some advanced stage in the comp aswell:

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(That team wouldve been 2-0 up at half time v the team we started with tonight!)
And we would've lost the match 3-2 in the end. Stupid idea.
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Old 18th September 2008, 08:29   #177 (permalink)
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You were talking about an Andorran International. Evans has helped keep clean sheets at Sunderland and Northern Ireland against great teams.

I wasn't talking about what he did tonight. He had an okay game tonight. Not bad, not scintillating.
"if he's helping to keep clean sheets against these very good teams, YES!!!" That implies you were talking about tonight. And yes, an Andorran international could have kept a clean sheet in this match too.
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Old 18th September 2008, 09:51   #178 (permalink)
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or you could just be quiet and stop responding when i log off . You got no point to make clearly
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Old 18th September 2008, 09:55   #179 (permalink)
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I don't have a clue what point you're trying to make. You're admitting that he has earned a good enough reputation against good enough opposition for him to be acknowledged as competent at Champions League level by both Fergie and Villareal. Yet you seem to be implying that people praising him are doing so only on the basis of tonight's match.

The bolded bit is a statement of the bloody obvious, but why are you applying it to Evans and none of the alternatives for the Chelsea match? Neville looked far less capable of handling Chelsea than Evans on the basis of tonight, and our other games recently too. O' Shea is hardly a certain success against that level of opposition either. There is nothing in tonight's performance or his career so far to suggest that he's any less capable of facing Chelsea away than either Neville or O' Shea at the moment, which is what I assume you've been trying to say.
first of all the nevilles, rios, evra's of this world are expereinced pro's who'd feature on sunday anyway so forget them. It's not even an issue. Oh and you say it's 'bloody obvious' I'd have thought those trio being experienced and therefore it not being an issue was bloody obvious...

What exactly did neville do wrong? He attacked fine, crossing wasn't great but again he wasn't shown up defensively. The zenit games gone, yesterday he was 'comfortable'

You never read all my posts so I wouldn't expect you to know what I was saying. People priased evans and he did ok but wasn't tested. If that had of been rafael a lot of people would have pointed out he hadn't been tested defensively.
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Old 18th September 2008, 11:51   #180 (permalink)
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i really thought evans was the highlight of last night it was great to see him play so well i've not seen a great deal of him before and was impressed
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Old 18th September 2008, 21:46   #181 (permalink)
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first of all the nevilles, rios, evra's of this world are expereinced pro's who'd feature on sunday anyway so forget them. It's not even an issue. Oh and you say it's 'bloody obvious' I'd have thought those trio being experienced and therefore it not being an issue was bloody obvious...

What exactly did neville do wrong? He attacked fine, crossing wasn't great but again he wasn't shown up defensively. The zenit games gone, yesterday he was 'comfortable'

You never read all my posts so I wouldn't expect you to know what I was saying. People priased evans and he did ok but wasn't tested. If that had of been rafael a lot of people would have pointed out he hadn't been tested defensively.
So you're accusing me of not recognising the gulf in experience between Rio and Evans, while you steadfastly ignore the fact that Evans has accumulated considerably more experience than Rafael?

My main issue with your original post was that I thought you were suggesting that people were judging Evans only on the evidence of last night which isn't the case. Last night was just another positive step in a pretty much immaculate start to his career. Then in your other post you started contradicting yourself, stating that Fergie and Villareal thought he had proven himself to be a competent centre back after you had offered absolutely no acknowledgement of his experience with Sunderland and Northern Ireland.

I thought Neville looked slow, tentative and rusty last night, and his delivery was awful. And believe me I was cheering for him every time he got the ball.

So to recap. I feel Evans has proven himself far more than you originally acknowledged, and that there was no need for your derisive attitude towards those that were praising him . And also that against Chelsea in a less than ideal situation (no Vidic) Evans relative lack of experience is not necessarily a greater handicap than Neville's lack of form and rustiness.
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Old 18th September 2008, 22:09   #182 (permalink)
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Looks a very special defensive prospect if i'm being honest. It's difficult to be reserved when you see an academy lad of his quality breaking through and standing his own ground and in some cases excelling against teams such as Spain, Sweden and Villareal.
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Old 18th September 2008, 22:16   #183 (permalink)
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I want him to face Chelsea personally. As long as Rio is there he will be fine. For We need Brown's defending at right back and Hargreaves in midfield vs them.
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Old 18th September 2008, 22:18   #184 (permalink)
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Agreed, Chief. It would be wonderful to see Evans play against Chelsea.
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Agreed, Chief. It would be wonderful to see Evans play against Chelsea.
I'm affraid he's not ready for such a test yet. Btw how come nobody wants Neville at RB for this game?
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Old 18th September 2008, 22:30   #186 (permalink)
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I'm affraid he's not ready for such a test yet. Btw how come nobody wants Neville at RB for this game?
Why? He's put in some collosal performances prior to tonight, not least against Spain for an inferior team to the one he would play for against Chelsea. He would also be playing alongside the best defender on the planet.

If anything, you could argue that Neville is not ready, yet i'd have no qualms with him playing.
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I'm affraid he's not ready for such a test yet. Btw how come nobody wants Neville at RB for this game?
His crossing was conference level..
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If Drogba isnt playing, then I'd like to see Evans.
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