Jonny Evans

Cheesy · 4th March 2012, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Widnes

Regarded by who? except maybe a few posters on here who thought they know everything claiming he was shit, I would have considered 3rd choice the fact that SAF gave himthe number 6 shirt showed that he was clearly still a major player in his eyes and I have never atany point seen any indication from SAF that Evans was as low down as 5th in the pecking order for CB

At the start of the season, I think he would have been. If Rafael had been fit all the time, then he would've been in at right back, meaning that Smalling and Jones would've also been ahead of Evans in the pecking order. Jones is debatable, but I think it's a fact that Smalling was ahead of Evans.

forevrared · 4th March 2012, 18:31

Jonny's career path (including the treatment he gets from the 'fans') seems to be directly paralleling Darren Fletcher's.

sammsky1 · 4th March 2012, 18:31

Seems to have struck up a real understanding with Rio, which is bringing the best out of Rio too, despite his slight loss of pace due to age etc. A great combination.

When Vidic comes back next year, great to have rotating 2 from those 3 and of course with the excellent Smalling on the edges too.

ArmchairCritic · 4th March 2012, 18:33

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Originally Posted by forevrared

Jonny's career path (including the treatment he gets from the 'fans') seems to be directly paralleling Darren Fletcher's.

I hope so minus the injuries of course, happy to say I've always rated both.

EdWeatherall · 4th March 2012, 21:05

Really good today
The two CBs were fantastic, as I thought Adebayor and Saha were excellent, they held the ball up so well at times, which allowed them to attack us quote often.

Raven Blade · 5th March 2012, 02:16

Outstanding defensive work with Rio. He's definitely in the team on merit at the moment and long may that continue. It will benefit the whole team to have such consistency at the back.

girish · 5th March 2012, 03:47

That tackle on Lennon was class.

kiristao · 5th March 2012, 06:00

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Originally Posted by sammsky1

Seems to have struck up a real understanding with Rio, which is bringing the best out of Rio too, despite his slight loss of pace due to age etc. A great combination.

When Vidic comes back next year, great to have rotating 2 from those 3 and of course with the excellent Smalling on the edges too.

Spot on mate.

It cant be a co-incidence that Rio's performances have been top notch since Evans has shown his class.

kiristao · 5th March 2012, 06:06

There was this one moment when Evra let Lennon open out wide and instead of trying to go block the cross, he passed the responsibility to Young (72nd min).
United cleared the cross after which Evans had a right go at Evra. His performance the last few weeks has made him confident enough to question other players.

Pogue Mahone · 5th March 2012, 06:42

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Originally Posted by forevrared

Jonny's career path (including the treatment he gets from the 'fans') seems to be directly paralleling Darren Fletcher's.

There's similarities, although Fletcher never had the outstanding debut season Evans had. Which makes the lack of patience shown to Evans even more ridiculous.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 5th March 2012, 07:08

His class was always going to shine through. He is every bit a talented the departed Pique.

Uzz · 5th March 2012, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

His class was always going to shine through. He is every bit a talented the departed Pique.

No. Pique has been outstanding for almost 3 seasons. Evans has 3-4 decentish games.

JayWalker · 5th March 2012, 08:36

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Originally Posted by Uzz

No. Pique has been outstanding for almost 3 seasons. Evans has 3-4 decentish games.

Eh?

BAMSOLA · 5th March 2012, 08:47

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Originally Posted by Uzz

No. Pique has been outstanding for almost 3 seasons. Evans has 3-4 decentish games.

Oh dear, looks like you convenient forgot his first season for us a first teamer where he was mostly very good.

Rado_N · 5th March 2012, 08:54

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Originally Posted by Uzz

No. Pique has been outstanding for almost 3 seasons. Evans has 3-4 decentish games.

No. That's just nonsense. He's had a good season so far now with some excellent displays and his debut season was also brilliant.

KM · 5th March 2012, 08:57

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Originally Posted by Uzz

No. Pique has been outstanding for almost 3 seasons. Evans has 3-4 decentish games.

Clueless post of the year 2012 is already sealed up.

Hellboy · 5th March 2012, 09:07

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Originally Posted by Uzz

No. Pique has been outstanding for almost 3 seasons. Evans has 3-4 decentish games.

Sunny Jim · 5th March 2012, 09:07

Im not a big fan of Evans ( well i prefer Smalling) but fuck me - he was fantastic yesterday and very, very good of late.

Hellboy · 5th March 2012, 09:15

Remember last season when he was torn apart by any lump in the league ? I think he is fitter and mentally stronger. The only problem with Evans is that he seems to lose his concentration sometimes. He's been one of the best defenders in the league really, and he can be the best in the world in the next few seasons.

Stretch · 5th March 2012, 09:37

I must say, Evans has made me eat my words. He's been fantastic and is showing maturity second to none. He's shown that his 1st season was not a blip on the radar but rather that he was just off form during his rough patch. He's soften the blow of losing Vidic and I hope he carries on in this vein till the end of the season.

Smores · 5th March 2012, 09:49

He's never played badly while having an extended run in the team. Most CBs struggle coming into a defence only every now and again, especially young ones like Evans.

I think we all fail to recognise how important a run of games is to a player of any position. You can say players need to take their chances but there's very few individuals in our team that can come in and perform straight away.

Thankfully, the manager is a lot more patient that the fans

RedSky At Night · 5th March 2012, 09:57

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Originally Posted by Uzz

No. Pique has been outstanding for almost 3 seasons. Evans has 3-4 decentish games.

I'd go check out the teamsheets when we made the current premiership record of amount of games without conceeding.

Siorac · 5th March 2012, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Hellboy

Remember last season when he was torn apart by any lump in the league ? I think he is fitter and mentally stronger. The only problem with Evans is that he seems to lose his concentration sometimes. He's been one of the best defenders in the league really, and he can be the best in the world in the next few seasons.

He improved in that aspect but it's still his one big weakness; Andy Carroll had the best game of his season against us (and he was still shite but that's what 35 million buys for Liverpool).

But overall, Evans has been very good this season. Calling him the player of our season is a bit over the top though, not least because of the 1-6.

Hellboy · 5th March 2012, 10:13

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Originally Posted by Siorac

He improved in that aspect but it's still his one big weakness; Andy Carroll had the best game of his season against us (and he was still shite but that's what 35 million buys for Liverpool).

But overall, Evans has been very good this season. Calling him the player of our season is a bit over the top though, not least because of the 1-6.

What ?

Apart from their second goal, Jonny got the better of him every fucking time.

mufcwarm92 · 5th March 2012, 10:33

Good run of form for Evans ATM. He has looked much less vulnerable in the air against some decent physical strikers of late. it will be interesting to see if he keeps his place with Smalling and Jones both fully fit.

On the subject of Piqué, when both were at the club, Evans was the more consistent performer and they both seemed to be on a similar level. But there is no doubt that Piqué has matured and developed into one of the world's top centre halves for Barca. Evans on the other hand has struggled at times and been in and out of the side. To say he's had '3 or 4 decentish games' is ridiculous, but he still has a long, long way to go to match Piqué.

Pexbo · 5th March 2012, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Hellboy

The only problem with Evans is that he seems to lose his concentration sometimes. .

This sounds very familiar. I think I remember hearing it about someone around 7 or 8 years ago.

KM · 5th March 2012, 10:42

He has done well against Holt and Adebayor in consecutive weeks. Let's bury the "He gets bullied by the strong strikers" thing now.

Decotron · 5th March 2012, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Uzz

No. Pique has been outstanding for almost 3 seasons. Evans has 3-4 decentish games.

theres always one....

Irwynwastheking · 5th March 2012, 12:31

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Originally Posted by Olly

Jonny has been great this year, and it's nice to see the majority of fans starting to support an academy produce rather than taking every opportunity to bash them

towcester_red · 5th March 2012, 12:32

@ Uzz. big lolz

Irwynwastheking · 5th March 2012, 12:34

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Originally Posted by towcester_red

@ Uzz. big lolz

Oh, and *** for this!

giggs-beckham · 5th March 2012, 12:36

He's improving all the time which is great to see. Baulking up a bit could help him further too, not that he's struggling or anything. Evans and Smalling will be a good partnership in the near future for us.

Irwynwastheking · 5th March 2012, 12:38

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Originally Posted by giggs-beckham

He's improving all the time which is great to see. Baulking up a bit could help him further too, not that he's struggling or anything. Evans and Smalling will be a good partnership in the near future for us.

Yep.

You've got to be wary that next season could potentially be Rios last at top level first choice, so one of these guys will have the chance to be Vidics partner.

IMO Vidic and Smalling are very similar types of players and I think that Evans would compliment Vidic more in the long run.

evra · 5th March 2012, 12:40

He's quality, I've always said so. Could be a future utd captain if he keeps working hard.

Adzzz · 5th March 2012, 12:42

I'm always hesitant to praise any one other than Vidic when alongside Rio, simply by the fact Rio is one of the finest defenders pretty much ever. But Evans like most lads at this club come in for un-due stick and he's a very good young player.

Brwned · 5th March 2012, 12:48

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Originally Posted by Irwinwastheking

Yep.

You've got to be wary that next season could potentially be Rios last at top level first choice, so one of these guys will have the chance to be Vidics partner.

IMO Vidic and Smalling are very similar types of players and I think that Evans would compliment Vidic more in the long run.

Agree completely, the common opinion is that Smalling is Rio's replacement (because of physical similarities, I guess) but he's much more Vidic's replacement with his aerial dominance. Evans is a lot closer to Rio in his use of the ball and his style of defending, for me.

Snow · 5th March 2012, 12:50

Evans is a bit like Vidic as well. He's got similar pace and likes to press the strikers at the moment he's receiving a pass. With the ball Evans is usually one of the smartest but he gives it more away in dangerous positions.

Adam-Utd · 5th March 2012, 12:53

What can i say, ive always been one of Evans biggest haters in the last year or two, his form was shockingly poor and looked so unconfident i could not understand how he was getting games.

But since his remarkable turn around he has looked strong, brave and has made some excellent last ditch tackles too which has saved us.

Jonny looks like a different player in the last 2/3 months and i cant understand where he dissapeared too for all that time!.

I suppose the run of games and the confidence instilled in him by SAF has helped hugely, but i think rio guiding him through the games also helps him alot, he clearly needs a bit of instruction in defence but he has certainly responded admirably.

One thing i noticed most was how many headers he was winning against saha and adebayor. They are 2 of the strongest / most powerful forwards in the league and he was bullying them around - something that has been his biggest weakness in recent times.

Great to see the lad finally showing his worth, and im now pleased i dont see him as a weakness anymore.

Pogue Mahone · 5th March 2012, 12:55

That's why Evans is such a useful player. Can form a good partnership with any of our other central defenders. Was class with Vidic during his debut season and looks very at home alongside Rio this season.

I actually think Smalling is similarly flexible.

RedRonaldo · 5th March 2012, 12:57

He's in good run of form, but best defender in the league? Every bit as good as Pique? Come on.

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4th March 2012, 18:31	#1842 (permalink)
forevrared Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,588	Jonny's career path (including the treatment he gets from the 'fans') seems to be directly paralleling Darren Fletcher's.

4th March 2012, 18:31	#1843 (permalink)
sammsky1 First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Behind my  Posts: 12,662	Seems to have struck up a real understanding with Rio, which is bringing the best out of Rio too, despite his slight loss of pace due to age etc. A great combination. When Vidic comes back next year, great to have rotating 2 from those 3 and of course with the excellent Smalling on the edges too.

4th March 2012, 21:05	#1845 (permalink)
EdWeatherall First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,960	Really good today The two CBs were fantastic, as I thought Adebayor and Saha were excellent, they held the ball up so well at times, which allowed them to attack us quote often.

5th March 2012, 02:16	#1846 (permalink)
Raven Blade Dull Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Why do it the easy way? Do it the United way! Posts: 31,959	Outstanding defensive work with Rio. He's definitely in the team on merit at the moment and long may that continue. It will benefit the whole team to have such consistency at the back.

5th March 2012, 03:47	#1847 (permalink)
girish I too love women...for their shoes. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kerala,India Posts: 11,831	That tackle on Lennon was class.

5th March 2012, 06:06	#1849 (permalink)
kiristao Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Goa, India Posts: 1,861	There was this one moment when Evra let Lennon open out wide and instead of trying to go block the cross, he passed the responsibility to Young (72nd min). United cleared the cross after which Evans had a right go at Evra. His performance the last few weeks has made him confident enough to question other players.

5th March 2012, 07:08	#1851 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysareus.com Posts: 40,865	His class was always going to shine through. He is every bit a talented the departed Pique.

5th March 2012, 09:07	#1858 (permalink)
Sunny Jim First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warsaw...that's too far away from Edinburgh... Posts: 16,266	Im not a big fan of Evans ( well i prefer Smalling) but fuck me - he was fantastic yesterday and very, very good of late.

5th March 2012, 09:15	#1859 (permalink)
Hellboy First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: "If he doesn't make it big i'll jump into the Manchester Ship Canal !" Eric Harrison on Tom Cleverley. Posts: 11,234	Remember last season when he was torn apart by any lump in the league ? I think he is fitter and mentally stronger. The only problem with Evans is that he seems to lose his concentration sometimes. He's been one of the best defenders in the league really, and he can be the best in the world in the next few seasons.

5th March 2012, 09:37	#1860 (permalink)
Stretch First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: very far away Posts: 5,781	I must say, Evans has made me eat my words. He's been fantastic and is showing maturity second to none. He's shown that his 1st season was not a blip on the radar but rather that he was just off form during his rough patch. He's soften the blow of losing Vidic and I hope he carries on in this vein till the end of the season.

5th March 2012, 09:49	#1861 (permalink)
Smores First Team Sub Join Date: May 2011 Location: Dark side of the moon Posts: 6,960	He's never played badly while having an extended run in the team. Most CBs struggle coming into a defence only every now and again, especially young ones like Evans. I think we all fail to recognise how important a run of games is to a player of any position. You can say players need to take their chances but there's very few individuals in our team that can come in and perform straight away. Thankfully, the manager is a lot more patient that the fans

5th March 2012, 10:33	#1865 (permalink)
mufcwarm92 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: W3103 Posts: 3,310	Good run of form for Evans ATM. He has looked much less vulnerable in the air against some decent physical strikers of late. it will be interesting to see if he keeps his place with Smalling and Jones both fully fit. On the subject of Piqué, when both were at the club, Evans was the more consistent performer and they both seemed to be on a similar level. But there is no doubt that Piqué has matured and developed into one of the world's top centre halves for Barca. Evans on the other hand has struggled at times and been in and out of the side. To say he's had '3 or 4 decentish games' is ridiculous, but he still has a long, long way to go to match Piqué.

5th March 2012, 10:42	#1867 (permalink)
KM Coach Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 24,082	He has done well against Holt and Adebayor in consecutive weeks. Let's bury the "He gets bullied by the strong strikers" thing now.

5th March 2012, 12:32	#1870 (permalink)
towcester_red Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: wayne rooney wonderland Posts: 3,982	@ Uzz. big lolz

5th March 2012, 12:36	#1872 (permalink)
giggs-beckham Clueless Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,707	He's improving all the time which is great to see. Baulking up a bit could help him further too, not that he's struggling or anything. Evans and Smalling will be a good partnership in the near future for us.

5th March 2012, 12:40	#1874 (permalink)
evra First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right. Posts: 9,108	He's quality, I've always said so. Could be a future utd captain if he keeps working hard.

5th March 2012, 12:42	#1875 (permalink)
Adzzz Astrophysical Genius Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A Forest with Astro Turf Facility. Now a Guardian of the West. Posts: 25,770	I'm always hesitant to praise any one other than Vidic when alongside Rio, simply by the fact Rio is one of the finest defenders pretty much ever. But Evans like most lads at this club come in for un-due stick and he's a very good young player.

5th March 2012, 12:50	#1877 (permalink)
Snow First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like turtles Posts: 16,853	Evans is a bit like Vidic as well. He's got similar pace and likes to press the strikers at the moment he's receiving a pass. With the ball Evans is usually one of the smartest but he gives it more away in dangerous positions.

5th March 2012, 12:53	#1878 (permalink)
Adam-Utd First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,954	What can i say, ive always been one of Evans biggest haters in the last year or two, his form was shockingly poor and looked so unconfident i could not understand how he was getting games. But since his remarkable turn around he has looked strong, brave and has made some excellent last ditch tackles too which has saved us. Jonny looks like a different player in the last 2/3 months and i cant understand where he dissapeared too for all that time!. I suppose the run of games and the confidence instilled in him by SAF has helped hugely, but i think rio guiding him through the games also helps him alot, he clearly needs a bit of instruction in defence but he has certainly responded admirably. One thing i noticed most was how many headers he was winning against saha and adebayor. They are 2 of the strongest / most powerful forwards in the league and he was bullying them around - something that has been his biggest weakness in recent times. Great to see the lad finally showing his worth, and im now pleased i dont see him as a weakness anymore.

5th March 2012, 12:55	#1879 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 62,724	That's why Evans is such a useful player. Can form a good partnership with any of our other central defenders. Was class with Vidic during his debut season and looks very at home alongside Rio this season. I actually think Smalling is similarly flexible.

5th March 2012, 12:57	#1880 (permalink)
RedRonaldo First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,653	He's in good run of form, but best defender in the league? Every bit as good as Pique? Come on.