Are Man City better than us?

kietotheworld

Clutching at straws. Evra himself even said Suarez isn't a racist.

Lance Uppercut

You actually think he's serious, don't you.

WireRed

To be fair, that's just bollocks.

I hate their artificial wealth as much as anybody, but no title is easily won or "bought", no matter the size of your transfer budget, wage bill, or quality of your players. Just ask numerous Real Madrid teams and managers since 2000.

If City win the league, fair do's, Mancini has done an excellent job of improving certain players and the overall mentality of that club, sadly this will improve if/when they become champions. He saw the potential of Hart over the tried and trusted Given and it's turned out to be a key decision he's got right, he's performed a minor miracle in moulding Lescott into IMO a top, reliable CB, he moved Kompany from midfield to CB and has overseen his progression into a world-class defender and ideal leader, overall, Mancini and City have benefitted from the finances available to them but it's through hard work on the training pitch and gradual improvement over the last few seasons that looks likely to win them the title.

As for us, we've got no-one to look at but ourselves. A team who tosses away a 8 point lead in 3 weeks and performs in a virtual decider like we did tonight, deserves everything they get, or in our case, don't get.

Still ill

What in the name of sweet divine Jaysus does that make our performance then? They were better in every area. Deserved it tonight. We're a bit off that level. We have guts and history and tradition and character. We squeezed a Champions league final and a title last year out of a squad that's a couple or 3 of genuinely top class players off competing genuinely with the best in Europe and might still pull a 20th title out of the bag this time round, but it doesn't alter the facts.

gormless

I know this will sound spoilt, but we're Manchester United. Almost winning something isn't good enough, none of the players will be thinking, "we almost won the league"

Gazza

City and United have been equals this season.

The title hinged on the 2 games between us, we didn't do ourselves justice in either one.

Have to make sure we do better against them next season, simple as that.

apotheosis

We haven't fucking lost it yet, get a grip you lot ffs! Shit performance today and City are favourites now, but they still have to get 6 points from a tough game away at Newcastle, and QPR may yet still be fighting to avoid the drop.

We on the other hand are playing 2 teams who have much less to play for, relatively speaking. It's still on, we just have to do our bit and hope City fuck up! Come on!!!

Randall Flagg

As someone said in another thread. You are currently in "the denial" phase.

devilish

equals? Hart could have taken a nap today.

TheReligion

Course we are equals, we are level on points as some people seem to be forgetting

devilish

Talent wise we're not. What keeps us hanging is SAF brilliance, the old guard and Young's Emmy Awards performances throughout the last couple of games. If we do win the league then SAF deserves a statue right in the middle of OT. This is one of the worst teams we have ever had throughout his reign.

Rossi19

City have got through their dip in form and we've hit ours. Even if Newcastle win/draw I'm not convinced we'll take 6 points from our last 2 games.

moyses

Not equals today. As anyone who saw the game will say, but leagues don't work that way.

Randall Flagg

But well behind on GD. So, not really equal at all. 6 of that is due to them beating us home and away

Sparky_Hughes

Bunch of quiters the lot of ya, 96 title race, nou camp 99, white hart lane 3-5...... When your united the show aint over till the fatman fucks.......and my dick aint wet just yet.

moyses

12

sdb4884

City are better than us clearly, it's just that it's taken until now to believe it.

devilish

And no one knows how the EPL work better then SAF. That's the main reason why we went toe to toe with Shitty. If the man was leading Shitty instead of us, then they would have won the league 1 month ago. This is one of SAF's weakest United teams ever.

Randall Flagg

Yes

TheReligion

We are equal on points. City have scored some more goals, but the crux of the matter is we are equal.

If we were talking about a massive gap between the clubs, as this thread would suggest, then I would be worried, but there is nothing in it. A Premier League has never been won on GD, that's how close it is.

We have been responsible for our own demise this season in my opinion.

Stookie

They may be better than us but the episode with Ballotelli has been a lucky break for them. They have been a better side without him. But they are a club with no morals at all and have just won the lottery. That is all. When it eventually dries up I will laugh my cock off.

Zen86

They aren't better than us, and never will be.

Gazza

Equals. Look at the points total.

You've ignored the part of my post that says we need to do ourselves justice in the games against City.

Gazza

Actually, 12 of that is due to them beating us home and away.

Gazza

Edit: didn't see you were already corrected...

moyses

Yes, if if if. The manager is as valid an asset as a 100 million pound forward line. If we had Yaya we would have won it 2 months ago? If.

Gazza

Malta: We Smoke the Best Weed.

devilish

Deep down there's only one real if......SAF. Without him Shitty would have run the show.

moyses

Ok, I wasn't aware you were in charge of the hypotheticals. My bad.

JustAFan

Gazza

Meaning...?

devilish

Nah, ive heard its average.

Zen86

We know who you're going to be supporting after he retires in any case.

moyses

Meaning it's time to stop trying to reason with him.

Thick Numpty

We're a team in transition. Said this months ago, before I ever came up here into the mains. We're a team in transition, we have a great young squad, and whether we lose this league title or not, we'll grow from this season, we'll learn from this season, and whether we win or lose the title we'll be better for the experience.

All credit should be given to Ferguson for keeping us competitive while being in transition. We won a title last year whilst being in transition, and have competed this year, and could still win it, whilst being in transition. Other clubs don't do that.

TheReligion

It is embarassing isn't it

You can tell who the Mancs are on the forum and who are the OOTers.

Haven't got a clue springs to mind.

devilish

What's keeping us in the tie is SAF's brilliance and leadership. Shitty are better then us this year.

An Irish Red

I'm starting to believe you're Andy @ Allerton.

devilish

At least you're not mixing me with Lou Macari.

Gazza

Yes, we've attained one of the highest points totals in our history solely due to Fergie. Even though he's been questioned by loads on here for his tactics and decisions at times. Makes sense.

City are going to win the league. We're level on points with them. All other conclusions depend on your point of view. I certainly would be embarrassed with some of the hyperbole you've come out with, but then again I'm quite comfortable with my reading of the situation.