Manucho watch

ByronSteve · 15th February 2008, 16:40

Manucho flies in today, a day late, due to the visa problem. He is expected to play the return leg against Rangers, here in Athens on Thursday.
Will keep you up to date with any further developments.

REd FUn DevIl · 15th February 2008, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Tabasco Sauce

Reproduced from an earlier thread before the ACN :

WORK PERMIT SITUATION :

I just did some digging on the situation with his permit...Angola (who are ranked 72nd in the FIFA rankings) have played a total of 16 matches since the world cup in 2006 (Manucho was not part of the WC squad). Manucho has played in 10 out of those 16 which means he has played in 62% (0r 63% for the really pedantic blokes out there) of the matches. If Angola play 3 matches in the ACN (guaranteed) plus the friendly today, then he would have played 70% of their matches. If they progress further and play 3 more matches (QF, SF and 3rd place/Final match) then he would have had played in 74% of the matches which is still insufficient for a work permit.

What is more likely than Angola making it to the finals, is that they reach the QF and then go out (making 4 matches in the CAN 2008) and he plays in the friendly on 26th March and the WC qualifiers on 30th May and 6th June which gives us a total of 18 caps out of a possible 24 which gets us to the magic figure of 75%. If he misses any of these matches, then we may have to wait till July or September depending on how many he misses.

Thats weird as feck. How a player like Benjani that plays for Zimbawe then got a work permit. How about Lua Lua that represents Congo and the list goes on... Even the Watford player from Sierra Leone that all we signed on a page to allow him to stay on England.

BlahRules · 15th February 2008, 18:18

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Originally Posted by REd FUn DevIl

Thats weird as feck. How a player like Benjani that plays for Zimbawe then got a work permit. How about Lua Lua that represents Congo and the list goes on... Even the Watford player from Sierra Leone that all we signed on a page to allow him to stay on England.

Lua Lua is born british

ByronSteve · 16th February 2008, 14:25

Manucho trained with his new team mates, here in Athens yesterday. He say's that he is very excited about his move to Utd. He is looking forward to playing for Panathinaikos this season, as they are a big team and will give him valuable experience, for when he finally gets to Utd.
Photos to hopefully follow!!!

redender · 16th February 2008, 14:27

I take it this weekend fixtures will come too soon for him?

Got a good selection of strikers at Pana, not sure if his selection will be automatic.

Ekeke · 16th February 2008, 14:47

It will be within weeks. He'll add another dimension to their attack and score a bucketload of goals.

redender · 16th February 2008, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

It will be within weeks. He'll add another dimension to their attack and score a bucketload of goals.

They play through the middle from what I saw vs. Rangers. Manucho is the type of player who will thrive from quality delivery from wide positions.

Alex · 16th February 2008, 17:05

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Originally Posted by ByronSteve

Manucho trained with his new team mates, here in Athens yesterday. He say's that he is very excited about his move to Utd. He is looking forward to playing for Panathinaikos this season, as they are a big team and will give him valuable experience, for when he finally gets to Utd.
Photos to hopefully follow!!!

Thanks for the info

ByronSteve · 17th February 2008, 13:17

Goncalves arrives in Athens
15 Feb 2008
Panathinaikos and Manchester United striker Manucho Goncalves arrived in Athens on Thursday (02/15/08).

"I am a striker and I want to score lots of goals so my club can achieve their objectives. Panathinaikos have a great coach and they are a challenge for me before my return to Manchester United," said the Angolan striker.

"Panathinaikos are a great team and I have plenty of time to get accustomed to my teammates and my coach. I am very happy about my performance with Angola in the African Cup of Nations, but at this time the only thing in my mind is Panathinaikos," added the 24 year old player.

When asked if he is ready to play for Panathinaikos he replied, "I want to help as soon as possible but that is up to my coach - if he uses me or not. I expect to score lots of goals for Panathinaikos."

Manucho, second best scorer in the African Cup of Nations 2008, will play for Panathinaikos until the end of the season, after he was borrowed from Manchester United that contracted him recently from Petro de Luanda, following a three weeks probation in England.

Sorry, still trying to get pictures through to you

redender · 17th February 2008, 13:20

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Originally Posted by ByronSteve

Goncalves arrives in Athens
15 Feb 2008
Panathinaikos and Manchester United striker Manucho Goncalves arrived in Athens on Thursday (02/15/08).

"I am a striker and I want to score lots of goals so my club can achieve their objectives. Panathinaikos have a great coach and they are a challenge for me before my return to Manchester United," said the Angolan striker.

"Panathinaikos are a great team and I have plenty of time to get accustomed to my teammates and my coach. I am very happy about my performance with Angola in the African Cup of Nations, but at this time the only thing in my mind is Panathinaikos," added the 24 year old player.

When asked if he is ready to play for Panathinaikos he replied, "I want to help as soon as possible but that is up to my coach - if he uses me or not. I expect to score lots of goals for Panathinaikos."

Manucho, second best scorer in the African Cup of Nations 2008, will play for Panathinaikos until the end of the season, after he was borrowed from Manchester United that contracted him recently from Petro de Luanda, following a three weeks probation in England.

Sorry, still trying to get pictures through to you

Good work Steve!'

I can see you turning into our very own Greek football correspondent! The next Tim Vickery I hear you say!

Joe W · 17th February 2008, 13:37

Can people stop going on like he is the next Drogba or Eto'o, please, you have seen him play in one tournament where he did brilliantly but not enough to earn him the same praise those two get.

Lets see how he turns out at Panathanaikos (spelling?) first before putting too much expectation on the young lad.

Lizard King · 17th February 2008, 14:00

Sarcasm, Joe, sarcasm.

He'd have scored 10 if he was playing yesterday

ByronSteve · 17th February 2008, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Joe W

Can people stop going on like he is the next Drogba or Eto'o, please, you have seen him play in one tournament where he did brilliantly but not enough to earn him the same praise those two get.

Lets see how he turns out at Panathanaikos (spelling?) first before putting too much expectation on the young lad.

We are not going on like he is the next Drogba or Eto. Who knows how he is going to progress.
I for one, being shipped out here, from my beloved Manchester, am very excited to see first hand how he gets on here in the Greek league.
I was a regular at OT, so please let me enjoy a little excitement in seeing if Sir Alex has found a nice cheap new star who COULD turn out to be the next Drogba. If he does'nt make it, at least we have not lost millions!!

Raven_Blade · 17th February 2008, 14:07

Good luck to him over there in Greece. I hope it proves to be a useful experience and helps him to further develop as a striker.

gh78 · 17th February 2008, 14:10

My excitement is due to the fact that he seems to be the perfect player for us at the moment. We lack height and a superb headerer aswell as an out and out goal scorer, he matches the criteria.

M160RA · 17th February 2008, 19:33

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Originally Posted by Joe W

Can people stop going on like he is the next Drogba or Eto'o, please, you have seen him play in one tournament where he did brilliantly but not enough to earn him the same praise those two get.

Lets see how he turns out at Panathanaikos (spelling?) first before putting too much expectation on the young lad.

Drogba? Eto'o? Pfffffft. He's the next Eusebio.

redender · 17th February 2008, 19:36

Panathinaikos won 1-0 tonight, Manucho didn't feature.

GledTheRed · 17th February 2008, 19:43

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Originally Posted by redender

Panathinaikos won 1-0 tonight, Manucho didn't feature.

He gave the teamtalk, hence the win.

Go Pana!!!

redender · 17th February 2008, 19:43

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Originally Posted by GledTheRed

He gave the teamtalk, hence the win.

Go Pana!!!

Ballache · 17th February 2008, 23:04

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Originally Posted by GledTheRed

He gave the teamtalk, hence the win.

Go Pana!!!

Sean_RedDevil · 17th February 2008, 23:19

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Originally Posted by redender

Panathinaikos won 1-0 tonight, Manucho didn't feature.

Bollox - their game was called off today.

ByronSteve · 18th February 2008, 05:49

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Originally Posted by redender

Panathinaikos won 1-0 tonight, Manucho didn't feature.

Sorry Redender, we have 30 cms of snow here at the moment, so the match was called off. The score you are quoting, is a week last Sundays game.
Leave your reporting to the locals.
They were hoping to play it tonight but looking out of the window now, they have no chance.
Manucho is hopefully in the squad for the Rangers game but the Panathinaikos coach has a history of not playing new players until they are fully bedded in.
Of course the fans want him playing straight away.

Pat_Mustard · 18th February 2008, 05:54

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Originally Posted by ByronSteve

Sorry Redender, we have 30 cms of snow here at the moment, so the match was called off. The score you are quoting, is a week last Sundays game.
Leave your reporting to the locals.
They were hoping to play it tonight but looking out of the window now, they have no chance.
Manucho is hopefully in the squad for the Rangers game but the Panathinaikos coach has a history of not playing new players until they are fully bedded in.
Of course the fans want him playing straight away.

Good stuff, we've got our own Greek football correspondent. Keep it up Steve.

Pogue Mahone · 18th February 2008, 08:27

Snow? In Greece? What the fuck? How often does that happen?

Poor auld Manucho is gonna get a bit of a shock. Still, good preparation for winter in Manchester.

ByronSteve · 18th February 2008, 09:08

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Snow? In Greece? What the fuck? How often does that happen?

Poor auld Manucho is gonna get a bit of a shock. Still, good preparation for winter in Manchester.

We dont get snow often but when we do, everything stops. What is good, is that we get another holiday. My weekend is now stretching to 4 days, a nice lonnnnng weekend, which included watching us smack the Gooners and will include hopefully us kicking some French backside on Wednesday. Oh, life is so hard!!

Drifter · 19th February 2008, 07:20

Man Utd's Manucho impressing everyone at Panathinakos - but must wait

Panathinaikos fans are being forced to wait to see new Manchester United loan signing Manucho in action.

The Angola star is unlikely to face Rangers in the UEFA Cup this week, as a source explained to The Herald: "Jose Peseiro, the Panathinaikos manager, didn't include Manucho in the squad for the league game with Atromitos last weekend although it was postponed in any case due to the heavy snow.

"Peseiro said after the first match with Rangers that Manucho has only a 10% chance of playing in the second leg. I think that now the percentage is only 5%. Peseiro is a coach who wants a new player to fully adapt to his team's requirements before starting him in the first eleven.

"I think that Manucho has a chance to be in the squad but almost no chance of starting the match.

"At Panathinaikos they are really very happy to have Manucho at their club. In his first training session with the team all the players were impressed by him.

In his second session he scored two goals and in the dressing room the defenders said that it is very difficult for someone to tackle him.

"The problem with Pana- thinaikos this year is that the players can't play well against teams with a tight defence. So they wanted a tall, strong player who can make a goal from half a chance and Manucho can do that. It is probably better for Rangers, therefore, that he does not play this week."

ByronSteve · 19th February 2008, 10:48

Yes, these are the views over here. He is not expected to play on Thursday, with a very slight chance of making the bench.

In the papers they are saying that he is very impressive in practice but unpredictable. One example was in a training match where the goalkeeper threw the ball out to a defender but Manucho read the situation and moved to intercept and instead of controlling the ball , he powerfully headed the ball back over the stranded goalkeeper into the net in one move from 20 mtrs. ( Yes, the opposing goalkeeper )

Everybody wants him to start but it looks unlikely. I am just hoping that the manager is holding an ace up his sleeve and surprises Rangers and the Panathinaikos support on Thursday night, by playing him.

I will go anyway and hopefully see the start of a very illustrious career.

spinoza · 19th February 2008, 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ByronSteve

Yes, these are the views over here. He is not expected to play on Thursday, with a very slight chance of making the bench.

In the papers they are saying that he is very impressive in practice but unpredictable. One example was in a training match where the goalkeeper threw the ball out to a defender but Manucho read the situation and moved to intercept and instead of controlling the ball , he powerfully headed the ball back over the stranded goalkeeper into the net in one move from 20 mtrs. ( Yes, the opposing goalkeeper )

Everybody wants him to start but it looks unlikely. I am just hoping that the manager is holding an ace up his sleeve and surprises Rangers and the Panathinaikos support on Thursday night, by playing him.

I will go anyway and hopefully see the start of a very illustrious career.

Interesting. Something you don't see everyday, that - wonder what the outcome would be if he did it in an actual match!

bergen · 19th February 2008, 11:02

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Originally Posted by spinoza

Interesting. Something you don't see everyday, that - wonder what the outcome would be if he did it in an actual match!

A goal, probably?

17th February 2008, 13:17	#49 (permalink)
ByronSteve Youth Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ano Melissia,Athens,Greece Posts: 235	Manucho interview on arrival in Athens Goncalves arrives in Athens 15 Feb 2008 Panathinaikos and Manchester United striker Manucho Goncalves arrived in Athens on Thursday (02/15/08). "I am a striker and I want to score lots of goals so my club can achieve their objectives. Panathinaikos have a great coach and they are a challenge for me before my return to Manchester United," said the Angolan striker. "Panathinaikos are a great team and I have plenty of time to get accustomed to my teammates and my coach. I am very happy about my performance with Angola in the African Cup of Nations, but at this time the only thing in my mind is Panathinaikos," added the 24 year old player. When asked if he is ready to play for Panathinaikos he replied, "I want to help as soon as possible but that is up to my coach - if he uses me or not. I expect to score lots of goals for Panathinaikos." Manucho, second best scorer in the African Cup of Nations 2008, will play for Panathinaikos until the end of the season, after he was borrowed from Manchester United that contracted him recently from Petro de Luanda, following a three weeks probation in England. Sorry, still trying to get pictures through to you

15th February 2008, 16:40	#41 (permalink)
ByronSteve Youth Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ano Melissia,Athens,Greece Posts: 235	Manucho flies in today, a day late, due to the visa problem. He is expected to play the return leg against Rangers, here in Athens on Thursday. Will keep you up to date with any further developments.

16th February 2008, 14:25	#44 (permalink)
ByronSteve Youth Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ano Melissia,Athens,Greece Posts: 235	Manucho trained with his new team mates, here in Athens yesterday. He say's that he is very excited about his move to Utd. He is looking forward to playing for Panathinaikos this season, as they are a big team and will give him valuable experience, for when he finally gets to Utd. Photos to hopefully follow!!!

16th February 2008, 14:27	#45 (permalink)
redender Wannabe Manc Join Date: May 2005 Location: Manchester - Farrrrrr away from mehro Posts: 2,508	I take it this weekend fixtures will come too soon for him? Got a good selection of strikers at Pana, not sure if his selection will be automatic.

16th February 2008, 14:47	#46 (permalink)
Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188	It will be within weeks. He'll add another dimension to their attack and score a bucketload of goals.

17th February 2008, 13:37	#51 (permalink)
Joe W Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: At old trafford to see united....take me home united road. Posts: 798	Can people stop going on like he is the next Drogba or Eto'o, please, you have seen him play in one tournament where he did brilliantly but not enough to earn him the same praise those two get. Lets see how he turns out at Panathanaikos (spelling?) first before putting too much expectation on the young lad.

17th February 2008, 14:00	#52 (permalink)
Lizard King Join Date: May 2007 Location: Anderson's hair Posts: 11,454	Sarcasm, Joe, sarcasm. He'd have scored 10 if he was playing yesterday

17th February 2008, 14:07	#54 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manchester United vs The World Posts: 14,180	Good luck to him over there in Greece. I hope it proves to be a useful experience and helps him to further develop as a striker.

17th February 2008, 14:10	#55 (permalink)
gh78 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 904	My excitement is due to the fact that he seems to be the perfect player for us at the moment. We lack height and a superb headerer aswell as an out and out goal scorer, he matches the criteria.

17th February 2008, 19:36	#57 (permalink)
redender Wannabe Manc Join Date: May 2005 Location: Manchester - Farrrrrr away from mehro Posts: 2,508	Panathinaikos won 1-0 tonight, Manucho didn't feature.

18th February 2008, 08:27	#64 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Dr Death wasting tax payers money on the Caf all day Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "As relaxed and natural on the park as a dog chasing a piece of silver paper in the wind" Posts: 10,386	Snow? In Greece? What the fuck? How often does that happen? Poor auld Manucho is gonna get a bit of a shock. Still, good preparation for winter in Manchester.

19th February 2008, 07:20	#66 (permalink)
Drifter First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 16,253	Man Utd's Manucho impressing everyone at Panathinakos - but must wait Panathinaikos fans are being forced to wait to see new Manchester United loan signing Manucho in action. The Angola star is unlikely to face Rangers in the UEFA Cup this week, as a source explained to The Herald: "Jose Peseiro, the Panathinaikos manager, didn't include Manucho in the squad for the league game with Atromitos last weekend although it was postponed in any case due to the heavy snow. "Peseiro said after the first match with Rangers that Manucho has only a 10% chance of playing in the second leg. I think that now the percentage is only 5%. Peseiro is a coach who wants a new player to fully adapt to his team's requirements before starting him in the first eleven. "I think that Manucho has a chance to be in the squad but almost no chance of starting the match. "At Panathinaikos they are really very happy to have Manucho at their club. In his first training session with the team all the players were impressed by him. In his second session he scored two goals and in the dressing room the defenders said that it is very difficult for someone to tackle him. "The problem with Pana- thinaikos this year is that the players can't play well against teams with a tight defence. So they wanted a tall, strong player who can make a goal from half a chance and Manucho can do that. It is probably better for Rangers, therefore, that he does not play this week."

19th February 2008, 10:48	#67 (permalink)
ByronSteve Youth Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ano Melissia,Athens,Greece Posts: 235	Yes, these are the views over here. He is not expected to play on Thursday, with a very slight chance of making the bench. In the papers they are saying that he is very impressive in practice but unpredictable. One example was in a training match where the goalkeeper threw the ball out to a defender but Manucho read the situation and moved to intercept and instead of controlling the ball , he powerfully headed the ball back over the stranded goalkeeper into the net in one move from 20 mtrs. ( Yes, the opposing goalkeeper ) Everybody wants him to start but it looks unlikely. I am just hoping that the manager is holding an ace up his sleeve and surprises Rangers and the Panathinaikos support on Thursday night, by playing him. I will go anyway and hopefully see the start of a very illustrious career.