Manucho watch

FortBoyard · 5th March 2008, 18:17

Fuck Sake no Manucho tonight all subs used, great loan.

BlahRules · 5th March 2008, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

And cold, incredibly cold.

He should wear a thicker sox

Rahul · 5th March 2008, 18:25

We need to get that work permit sorted out. He's wasting his time there. Feckin Panathanaikos

Pogue Mahone · 5th March 2008, 18:27

Why the fuck can't other team's managers realise that anyone who is under contract to Manchester United is likely to be considerably better than what they've got?

This is like Rossi at Newcastle all over again.

Richter · 5th March 2008, 18:30

Dozens of Belgian,Dutch and Spanish clubs wanted him but we sent him to Greece because of Queiroz's friend. Well done United.

prateik · 5th March 2008, 18:32

he hasnt been loaned out because we didnt need him here .. he is on loan because we didnt get a permit and even training with panathanikos is better than playing for his former club

he will get a few games eventually .. and hopefully his permit in the summer

Pogue Mahone · 5th March 2008, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Richter

Dozens of Belgian,Dutch and Spanish clubs wanted him but we sent him to Greece because of Queiroz's friend. Well done United.

Dozens, you say? Care to name them? Just 12 would be a start.

And he was sent to Greece because the coach there spoke Portugese, which is Manucho's mother tongue. And if he was too fecking cold in Greece, how do you think he'd be enjoying winter in Holland or Belgium?

FortBoyard · 5th March 2008, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

And he was sent to Greece because the coach there spoke Portugese, which is Manucho's mother tongue. And if he was too fecking cold in Greece, how do you think he'd be enjoying winter in Holland or Belgium?

All valid and good points, now if only they did the most important thing and put him on the pitch.

brophs · 5th March 2008, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Why the fuck can't other team's managers realise that anyone who is under contract to Manchester United is likely to be considerably better than what they've got?

This is like Rossi at Newcastle all over again.

So far the only clue we have as to Manucho's level is a few games in the ACON. He looked quite good, but it is a competition where attackers can make hay due to the frankly laughable standard of defending. The Pana coach cannot be expected to instantly drop a first team member for a player with little or no pedigree at any sort of level, regardless of who he is contracted to. Unless he really made an impact immediately I always expected it to take a while for him to win his place, which I hope(and think) he will.

Pogue Mahone · 5th March 2008, 19:06

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Originally Posted by brophs

So far the only clue we have as to Manucho's level is a few games in the ACON. He looked quite good, but it is a competition where attackers can make hay due to the frankly laughable standard of defending. The Pana coach cannot be expected to instantly drop a first team member for a player with little or no pedigree at any sort of level, regardless of who he is contracted to. Unless he really made an impact immediately I always expected it to take a while for him to win his place, which I hope(and think) he will.

The problem being that he signed for them when there was only 8 games left in their season. Make that 6 now.

brophs · 5th March 2008, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

The problem being that he signed for them when there was only 8 games left in their season. Make that 6 now.

Ah. I was NOT aware of that. Feckers.

sonymobby · 5th March 2008, 19:12

Fucking green rabbits...

ByronSteve · 6th March 2008, 18:01

Well the excuse for Manucho's non appearance last night was that the pitch was not up to much and it was felt that it was not worth risking him. He will make his long awaited debut against Larissa at home at 7pm( 9pm your time ) on Sunday night. WE WILL SEE!!!!!
What makes it more likely is that N'Doye the main striker is injured and out for a couple of weeks.
Panathinaikos have another 7 games left.

Maybe the coach is thinking that if Manucho does not play many games, he will have less chance of getting work permit in the summer and Panathinaikos can keep him for another year.

Pogue Mahone · 6th March 2008, 18:32

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Originally Posted by ByronSteve

Well the excuse for Manucho's non appearance last night was that the pitch was not up to much and it was felt that it was not worth risking him. He will make his long awaited debut against Larissa at home at 7pm( 9pm your time ) on Sunday night. WE WILL SEE!!!!!
What makes it more likely is that N'Doye the main striker is injured and out for a couple of weeks.
Panathinaikos have another 7 games left.

Good stuff.

You gonna start negotiating with the missus? Or did you use up all your brownie points going to the last game?

Sam#1 · 6th March 2008, 18:38

There is obviously a good reason that he's not getting a game. The manager gets to see him everyday in training, and based on that, isn't playing him. We've seen him in what 3 matches. Panathinikos don't have an obligation to play him you know.

Maybe he's just not good enough ?

Pogue Mahone · 6th March 2008, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

There is obviously a good reason that he's not getting a game. The manager gets to see him everyday in training, and based on that, isn't playing him. We've seen him in what 3 matches. Panathinikos don't have an obligation to play him you know.

Maybe he's just not good enough ?

Never under-estimate the stupidity of managers that aren't SAF. Don't forget Rossi spent 6 months at Newcastle and barely got a kick.

charleysurf · 6th March 2008, 18:52

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

There is obviously a good reason that he's not getting a game. The manager gets to see him everyday in training, and based on that, isn't playing him. We've seen him in what 3 matches. Panathinikos don't have an obligation to play him you know.

Maybe he's just not good enough ?

He's been playing in the Angolan league. Some games in the ACN don't prove he's ready for the fitness level required by a decent European team. Got to give him time to get up to the right level. It's Panathinikos , not Accrington Stanley.

Striker10 · 6th March 2008, 19:11

if they were doing it just so he couldn't get a work permit he wouldn't be in greece next season anyway..

it's a balancing act. you play manucho from the start, the strikers at the club already are not happy. when situations arise like now possibly with the guys injury then the coach can put him in knowing that he can keep him in if he's producing the goods

He's also settling into a new country and it's not easy. it's 'hopefully' a temp solution which makes it harder - it's like waiting in the airport for x amount of months. It takes awhile to adjust

If Manucho can impress at United enough for us to sign him he can impress in training matches over in greece - though that's not a given. Paitence

ByronSteve · 6th March 2008, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Good stuff.

You gonna start negotiating with the missus? Or did you use up all your brownie points going to the last game?

No Pogue, I am going to have to go on my own for this one.It will be a lot quieter, anyway!!!

On other comments made re training, he has been impressive in training but as I have said in earlier posts, this manager does not put new players straight in. He likes to give them time to settle in.

Rumour has it that Panathinaikos do have an agreement that if Manucho does not get his work permit, he will remain here at Panathinaikos for another season.

brophs · 6th March 2008, 22:28

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Originally Posted by charleysurf

He's been playing in the Angolan league. Some games in the ACN don't prove he's ready for the fitness level required by a decent European team. Got to give him time to get up to the right level. It's Panathinikos , not Accrington Stanley.

Who are they???

ByronSteve · 9th March 2008, 13:23

It has just been announced that Manucho WILL be making his long awaited debut tonight, home to Larissa. The ko is 5pm Eng time.

Dont hold your breath but hopefully, I will be letting you know later, how he got on!!!

Jacob · 9th March 2008, 13:24

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Originally Posted by ByronSteve

It has just been announced that Manucho WILL be making his long awaited debut tonight, home to Larissa. The ko is 5pm Eng time.

Dont hold your breath but hopefully, I will be letting you know later, how he got on!!!

Excellent mate

redender · 9th March 2008, 13:25

If someone has a stream can they PM to me? Cheers

a_devil_inside · 9th March 2008, 14:10

knowing his luck he'll get injured or sent off in the first minute

Ekeke · 9th March 2008, 14:18

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Originally Posted by a_devil_inside

knowing his luck he'll get injured or sent off in the first minute

I think you're taking the possibility of him being Saha's replacement a little too far.

ByronSteve · 9th March 2008, 16:45

It has just been confirmed, he is starting.

Lets hope it has been worth the wait!!!!

Sam#1 · 9th March 2008, 16:46

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Originally Posted by ByronSteve

It has just been confirmed, he is starting.

Lets hope it has been worth the wait!!!!

Good news.

I don't know what to do though, watch Manucho or Wigan vs Arse.

Yankee Red · 9th March 2008, 17:01

If anyone could PM me a link for the match it would be greatly appreciated!

BlahRules · 9th March 2008, 17:03

mms://209.190.38.90/ertsat

Sam#1 · 9th March 2008, 17:07

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Originally Posted by SirRedDevilFan7

If anyone could PM me a link for the match it would be greatly appreciated!

PM Sent.

Sam#1 · 9th March 2008, 17:29

How is the Angolan Pele doing ?

5th March 2008, 18:17	#121 (permalink)
FortBoyard AdN11 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Champions of England & Europe Posts: 1,191	Fuck Sake no Manucho tonight all subs used, great loan.

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Rahul Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hunting The Hunter ! Posts: 4,583	We need to get that work permit sorted out. He's wasting his time there. Feckin Panathanaikos

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Pogue Mahone Dr Death wasting tax payers money on the Caf all day Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "As relaxed and natural on the park as a dog chasing a piece of silver paper in the wind" Posts: 10,024	Why the fuck can't other team's managers realise that anyone who is under contract to Manchester United is likely to be considerably better than what they've got? This is like Rossi at Newcastle all over again.

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Richter Hairy big footed Swede Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,593	Dozens of Belgian,Dutch and Spanish clubs wanted him but we sent him to Greece because of Queiroz's friend. Well done United.

5th March 2008, 18:32	#126 (permalink)
prateik Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,806	he hasnt been loaned out because we didnt need him here .. he is on loan because we didnt get a permit and even training with panathanikos is better than playing for his former club he will get a few games eventually .. and hopefully his permit in the summer

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sonymobby spoilt whiner Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,669	Fucking green rabbits...

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ByronSteve Youth Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ano Melissia,Athens,Greece Posts: 232	Well the excuse for Manucho's non appearance last night was that the pitch was not up to much and it was felt that it was not worth risking him. He will make his long awaited debut against Larissa at home at 7pm( 9pm your time ) on Sunday night. WE WILL SEE!!!!! What makes it more likely is that N'Doye the main striker is injured and out for a couple of weeks. Panathinaikos have another 7 games left. Maybe the coach is thinking that if Manucho does not play many games, he will have less chance of getting work permit in the summer and Panathinaikos can keep him for another year.

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Sam#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo >>> Anyone. And yes, I still love Jamie Lynn Spears. Posts: 12,284	There is obviously a good reason that he's not getting a game. The manager gets to see him everyday in training, and based on that, isn't playing him. We've seen him in what 3 matches. Panathinikos don't have an obligation to play him you know. Maybe he's just not good enough ?

6th March 2008, 19:11	#138 (permalink)
Striker10 First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,037	if they were doing it just so he couldn't get a work permit he wouldn't be in greece next season anyway.. it's a balancing act. you play manucho from the start, the strikers at the club already are not happy. when situations arise like now possibly with the guys injury then the coach can put him in knowing that he can keep him in if he's producing the goods He's also settling into a new country and it's not easy. it's 'hopefully' a temp solution which makes it harder - it's like waiting in the airport for x amount of months. It takes awhile to adjust If Manucho can impress at United enough for us to sign him he can impress in training matches over in greece - though that's not a given. Paitence

9th March 2008, 13:23	#141 (permalink)
ByronSteve Youth Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ano Melissia,Athens,Greece Posts: 232	It has just been announced that Manucho WILL be making his long awaited debut tonight, home to Larissa. The ko is 5pm Eng time. Dont hold your breath but hopefully, I will be letting you know later, how he got on!!!

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redender Wannabe Manc Join Date: May 2005 Location: Manchester - Farrrrrr away from mehro Posts: 2,508	If someone has a stream can they PM to me? Cheers

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a_devil_inside Big footed hermaphrodite Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Little Britain Posts: 23,195	knowing his luck he'll get injured or sent off in the first minute

9th March 2008, 16:45	#146 (permalink)
ByronSteve Youth Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ano Melissia,Athens,Greece Posts: 232	It has just been confirmed, he is starting. Lets hope it has been worth the wait!!!!

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Yankee Red SirRedDevilFan7 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gulf Coast.....Livin' Life, but the edited version. Posts: 2,537	If anyone could PM me a link for the match it would be greatly appreciated!

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Sam#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo >>> Anyone. And yes, I still love Jamie Lynn Spears. Posts: 12,284	How is the Angolan Pele doing ?