Moscow travel/info/ticket thread

A1Dan · 15th May 2008, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by MancFanFromManc

You'll be lucky. All United fans will be taken to a 'fan zone' which is basically a huge 'sheep pen'. I'm sure they'll make it nice enough, but forget seeing anything of Moscow itself.

And how are they going to do this - come and round us up from our hotels etc?
There's plenty of us not going on charters, y'know...

gaffs · 15th May 2008, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1Dan

And how are they going to do this - come and round us up from our hotels etc?
There's plenty of us not going on charters, y'know...

Dan, buy a lonley planet moscow, there are loads of places in there.

sailor66 · 15th May 2008, 22:02

Just been checking my package !! Eurosportstravel they are providing transfers but to the fan zone. Fuck that, doubt i'll ever go again and want to see the sights, have a bevvie. Found this link, confirmed my fanzone doubts.

http://www.fsf.org.uk/freelions/fans...rangements.php

A1Dan · 15th May 2008, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaffs

Dan, buy a lonley planet moscow, there are loads of places in there.

Yeah, I've found a few on the internet, but it's hard to tell where's likely to be good, and have other reds hanging around etc..

A1Dan · 15th May 2008, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailor66

Just been checking my package !! Eurosportstravel they are providing transfers but to the fan zone. Fuck that, doubt i'll ever go again and want to see the sights, have a bevvie. Found this link, confirmed my fanzone doubts.

http://www.fsf.org.uk/freelions/fans...rangements.php

Every other thing I read says there will or won't be booze in the fan zones. I wish they'd say for definite...

Sultan · 15th May 2008, 23:19

Standing in the queue this morning I overheard a pint will be around £9.00...

Sultan · 16th May 2008, 08:33

I know a friend who has 5 tickets available

Face value.

A1Dan · 16th May 2008, 11:35

Just got back from the queue... good feeling to finally have teh tickets in hand!

Stuff they're giving out with the tickets clarifies some issues, but also leaves some questions...

Buses form the airport in the price of your ticketb - Presumably these go straight to and from the fan-zones... but a) from which airport, and b) when do they run?

Also, the lefalet says the fan zones will serve "beverages"... but will that be alcohol? I've read different thigns in different places!

A1Dan · 16th May 2008, 12:06

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....w__city_of_fun

"United have a big fan base in Moscow. If you do end up here without a ticket, the unofficial gathering point to watch the match will be Bobby Dazzler, an English-style pub near Chisty Prudy metro that is the headquarters for the Russian Manchester United fan club."

Sounds a decent place for a drink while in town then...

smallred · 16th May 2008, 12:30

i may have one ticket and possibly a second ticket spare if theres anybody heading over ticketless i can meet you in moscow.

face value of course (including postage)

me mates will be using the uefa.com tickets with names on them, but they were bought off somebody else, will they be ok?

A1Dan · 16th May 2008, 15:59

More possibly usefuls tuff on bars etc:

http://www.fsf.org.uk/freelions/fans...utandabout.php

Firstly, we reckoned that most people who are staying over in Moscow, as opposed to day-trippers, are likely to want to do a bit of sight-seeing, and will therefore head for the city centre and Red Square in particular. Just off Red Square are the Alexander Gardens (Aleksandrovski Sad), which are bordered on one side by a number of terrace bars, (and a McDonalds, and a pizza place) offering a natural gathering point for thirsty tourists. Beer here was 139 roubles (about £2.70) for half a litre of German lager, 84 roubles (about £1.65) for the same amount of local Russian beer. In smarter bars around the city however, be prepared for prices of four or five pounds a pint.

The main gathering point for British football fans in the past however has been a pedestrianised street some five or ten minutes walk from Red Square, by the name of Old Arbat. It’s a tourist-orientated area with lots of souvenir stands, but also a number of bars, cafés and restaurants, including a McDonalds and a Hard Rock Café. A Big Mac costs 52 roubles (£1), by the way.

Not far from the top end of Old Arbat is the Golden Ring hotel, which is where the FSF Fans’ Embassy will be based.

Kruzhka is a chain of beer-restaurants which serve cheap food and mugs of beer. They are dotted all over Moscow. The menu is relatively simple consisting mainly of kebabs and shaorma with chips. Sport events are often shown on big screens.

There are a number of western franchise restaurants like TGI Fridays and Hard Rock Café. The Hard Rock is on Old Arbat Street and is quite reasonably priced. They are also open from 6am for traditional western breakfast i.e. fresh orange juice, hash browns and scrambled eggs.

McDonalds are usually based in the shopping malls.

kf · 16th May 2008, 23:13

Well guys, I'll be there with you in spirit. I could have got hold of a ticket but by the time that became apparent, the flights etc had gone beyond what I can afford. I guess there's a lot of Reds in this position. Still I'm sure you guys will represent us well in Moscow, hope you have a great time and that we get the right result.

Don't forget to sing your hearts out for the lads

dicko · 16th May 2008, 23:30

I've had a few days worry.

Paid a tout silly money up front for two tickets. He went overseas a few days ago without giving me the tickets (said United were delaying releasing them). His email doesn't work and he wasn't answering his phone.

Woken up at 3.30am (Australian time) with a text giving DHL shipping details. Should get the tickets in St Petersburg. Slept soundly after that.

Out of interest - have black market prices dropped over the last week or so with the transport/hotel difficulties?

Paz · 17th May 2008, 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultan

I know a friend who has 5 tickets available

Face value.

willing to sell?
how much (per ticket)?

Sultan · 17th May 2008, 06:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paz

willing to sell?
how much (per ticket)?

Yes, at face value - around £120.00 per ticket.

Sultan · 17th May 2008, 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicko

Out of interest - have black market prices dropped over the last week or so with the transport/hotel difficulties?

There's no black market left in these tickets. Easily pick them up at cost.

Lot of genuine fans have had issues with flights/hotels, and are getting rid.

dicko · 17th May 2008, 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultan

There's no black market left in these tickets. Easily pick them up at cost.

Lot of genuine fans have had issues with flights/hotels, and are getting rid.

I paid 3000 for two tickets (ouch). That was before all the hotel/visa shit started. Perhaps I can get an upgrade.

Leaving home within the hour. Get to St Petersburg on Monday via Hong Kong and Helsinki. Doing a ten day tour of Uzbekistan on the way home. Arrive back in Sydney on 4 June. See you then when, hopefully, 17 3 is getting uncomfortably close to their 18 5.

Sultan · 17th May 2008, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicko

I paid 3000 for two tickets (ouch). That was before all the hotel/visa shit started. Perhaps I can get an upgrade.

Leaving home within the hour. Get to St Petersburg on Monday via Hong Kong and Helsinki. Doing a ten day tour of Uzbekistan on the way home. Arrive back in Sydney on 4 June. See you then when, hopefully, 17 3 is getting uncomfortably close to their 18 5.

Have a great time.

I'm leaving tomorrow evening.

Sultan · 17th May 2008, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicko

I paid 3000 for two tickets (ouch). That was before all the hotel/visa shit started. Perhaps I can get an upgrade.

Leaving home within the hour. Get to St Petersburg on Monday via Hong Kong and Helsinki. Doing a ten day tour of Uzbekistan on the way home. Arrive back in Sydney on 4 June. See you then when, hopefully, 17 3 is getting uncomfortably close to their 18 5.

Have a great time.

I'm leaving tomorrow evening.

MrBurns · 17th May 2008, 09:28

did you tell us twice just to rub it in Sult

Sultan · 17th May 2008, 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBurns

did you tell us twice just to rub it in Sult

Feedingseagulls · 17th May 2008, 14:57

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ralphie88 · 17th May 2008, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicko

I paid 3000 for two tickets (ouch).

Ouch indeed. It won't be a sell out, you know?

A1Dan · 17th May 2008, 20:49

The more I read, the more it sonds like the chances are the fan-zones will be dry. I found a pretty pessimistic renties forum, where they were talking about how to even slip through the airports without being put straight on a bus there. I'm not risking the fan-zones if possible anyway, just going to try and head to this Old Arbat area and see what's going on there...

ralphie88 · 18th May 2008, 12:31

Finally got my ticket from United. And they've run out of immigration forms!
They claim that won't be a problem but apparently we're 5,000 short. FFS.

gaffs · 18th May 2008, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by ralphie88

Finally got my ticket from United. And they've run out of immigration forms!
They claim that won't be a problem but apparently we're 5,000 short. FFS.

Wont they be given out on the flights?

I didnt get one and i got my ticket on wednesday.

ralphie88 · 18th May 2008, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaffs

Wont they be given out on the flights?

I didnt get one and i got my ticket on wednesday.

Or at the airport in Moscow apparently. My flight is Manchester-Milan-Berlin-Moscow!

bazalini · 19th May 2008, 10:59

Is the term Day-Trippers been used in a sort of Cheap shot - against some fans who have decided to head over and do 2-3 nights???

I hope its not.

In relation to Fan zone - its based in Red Square and I have been told fans can go outside the fanzone if they wish (Which I think will be bollocks on the days)

I'm in at 10 and out at 9am. Good Luck to whoever is travelling

gaffs · 19th May 2008, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazalini

Is the term Day-Trippers been used in a sort of Cheap shot - against some fans who have decided to head over and do 2-3 nights???

I hope its not.

In relation to Fan zone - its based in Red Square and I have been told fans can go outside the fanzone if they wish (Which I think will be bollocks on the days)

I'm in at 10 and out at 9am. Good Luck to whoever is travelling

Baz, you Day-Tripper.

I don't think anyone is using "Day-Tripper" as a derogatory term for people who are only going to Moscow for a day.

In my eyes, anyone who it going to Moscow this week are dedicated reds. We have all had to work hard or pay a load of cash to get our trips organised.

A1Dan · 19th May 2008, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazalini

Is the term Day-Trippers been used in a sort of Cheap shot - against some fans who have decided to head over and do 2-3 nights???

'Course not - totally different use from the usual OT meaning!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazalini

In relation to Fan zone - its based in Red Square and I have been told fans can go outside the fanzone if they wish (Which I think will be bollocks on the days)

The main fan-zones are by the stadium, with one for each side. There is some kind of "football festival" in red square, which presumably means taht you'er allowed to go there, but it's all pretty confusing!

15th May 2008, 22:02	#283 (permalink)
sailor66 Youth Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On route to Moscow, via wigan away. Posts: 359	Just been checking my package !! Eurosportstravel they are providing transfers but to the fan zone. Fuck that, doubt i'll ever go again and want to see the sights, have a bevvie. Found this link, confirmed my fanzone doubts. http://www.fsf.org.uk/freelions/fans...rangements.php

15th May 2008, 23:19	#286 (permalink)
Sultan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Top Red Posts: 14,762	Standing in the queue this morning I overheard a pint will be around £9.00...

16th May 2008, 08:33	#287 (permalink)
Sultan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Top Red Posts: 14,762	I know a friend who has 5 tickets available Face value.

16th May 2008, 11:35	#288 (permalink)
A1Dan First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Where the goals come from. Posts: 10,225	Just got back from the queue... good feeling to finally have teh tickets in hand! Stuff they're giving out with the tickets clarifies some issues, but also leaves some questions... Buses form the airport in the price of your ticketb - Presumably these go straight to and from the fan-zones... but a) from which airport, and b) when do they run? Also, the lefalet says the fan zones will serve "beverages"... but will that be alcohol? I've read different thigns in different places!

16th May 2008, 12:06	#289 (permalink)
A1Dan First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Where the goals come from. Posts: 10,225	http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....w__city_of_fun "United have a big fan base in Moscow. If you do end up here without a ticket, the unofficial gathering point to watch the match will be Bobby Dazzler, an English-style pub near Chisty Prudy metro that is the headquarters for the Russian Manchester United fan club." Sounds a decent place for a drink while in town then...

16th May 2008, 12:30	#290 (permalink)
smallred Youth Team Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 201	i may have one ticket and possibly a second ticket spare if theres anybody heading over ticketless i can meet you in moscow. face value of course (including postage) me mates will be using the uefa.com tickets with names on them, but they were bought off somebody else, will they be ok?

16th May 2008, 15:59	#291 (permalink)
A1Dan First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Where the goals come from. Posts: 10,225	More possibly usefuls tuff on bars etc: http://www.fsf.org.uk/freelions/fans...utandabout.php Firstly, we reckoned that most people who are staying over in Moscow, as opposed to day-trippers, are likely to want to do a bit of sight-seeing, and will therefore head for the city centre and Red Square in particular. Just off Red Square are the Alexander Gardens (Aleksandrovski Sad), which are bordered on one side by a number of terrace bars, (and a McDonalds, and a pizza place) offering a natural gathering point for thirsty tourists. Beer here was 139 roubles (about £2.70) for half a litre of German lager, 84 roubles (about £1.65) for the same amount of local Russian beer. In smarter bars around the city however, be prepared for prices of four or five pounds a pint. The main gathering point for British football fans in the past however has been a pedestrianised street some five or ten minutes walk from Red Square, by the name of Old Arbat. It’s a tourist-orientated area with lots of souvenir stands, but also a number of bars, cafés and restaurants, including a McDonalds and a Hard Rock Café. A Big Mac costs 52 roubles (£1), by the way. Not far from the top end of Old Arbat is the Golden Ring hotel, which is where the FSF Fans’ Embassy will be based. Kruzhka is a chain of beer-restaurants which serve cheap food and mugs of beer. They are dotted all over Moscow. The menu is relatively simple consisting mainly of kebabs and shaorma with chips. Sport events are often shown on big screens. There are a number of western franchise restaurants like TGI Fridays and Hard Rock Café. The Hard Rock is on Old Arbat Street and is quite reasonably priced. They are also open from 6am for traditional western breakfast i.e. fresh orange juice, hash browns and scrambled eggs. McDonalds are usually based in the shopping malls.

16th May 2008, 23:13	#292 (permalink)
kf First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 5,176	Well guys, I'll be there with you in spirit. I could have got hold of a ticket but by the time that became apparent, the flights etc had gone beyond what I can afford. I guess there's a lot of Reds in this position. Still I'm sure you guys will represent us well in Moscow, hope you have a great time and that we get the right result. Don't forget to sing your hearts out for the lads

16th May 2008, 23:30	#293 (permalink)
dicko Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,533	I've had a few days worry. Paid a tout silly money up front for two tickets. He went overseas a few days ago without giving me the tickets (said United were delaying releasing them). His email doesn't work and he wasn't answering his phone. Woken up at 3.30am (Australian time) with a text giving DHL shipping details. Should get the tickets in St Petersburg. Slept soundly after that. Out of interest - have black market prices dropped over the last week or so with the transport/hotel difficulties?

17th May 2008, 09:28	#300 (permalink)
MrBurns First Team Sub Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 5,853	did you tell us twice just to rub it in Sult

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Feedingseagulls Still looking for the seriousness of a child at play Join Date: May 2004 Location: Beyond Good & Evil Posts: 7,413	Just a note to wish all Cafe-members attending a... safe, happy (and successful) journey!

17th May 2008, 20:49	#304 (permalink)
A1Dan First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Where the goals come from. Posts: 10,225	The more I read, the more it sonds like the chances are the fan-zones will be dry. I found a pretty pessimistic renties forum, where they were talking about how to even slip through the airports without being put straight on a bus there. I'm not risking the fan-zones if possible anyway, just going to try and head to this Old Arbat area and see what's going on there...

18th May 2008, 12:31	#305 (permalink)
ralphie88 Chief Tormentor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: http://www.joinmust.org/ Posts: 5,262	Finally got my ticket from United. And they've run out of immigration forms! They claim that won't be a problem but apparently we're 5,000 short. FFS.

19th May 2008, 10:59	#308 (permalink)
bazalini Join Date: May 2000 Location: President of The Bring Back "Charlie Devils, Neil Thomson & Clayton Blackmore" Fan Clubs Posts: 13,578	Is the term Day-Trippers been used in a sort of Cheap shot - against some fans who have decided to head over and do 2-3 nights??? I hope its not. In relation to Fan zone - its based in Red Square and I have been told fans can go outside the fanzone if they wish (Which I think will be bollocks on the days) I'm in at 10 and out at 9am. Good Luck to whoever is travelling