Mr O. Goal....

gaffs · 8th February 2010, 19:34

He's our second highest scorer with 9 goals.

Sure, some of those would probably have ended up as goals anyway, like Nani v Arsenal.

But is it a worry that only Rooney is in double figures?

Sylar · 8th February 2010, 19:36

Its not a worry as we're building the team around Rooney rather than him just plain out carrying us. It happened with Ronaldo previously, Ruud before that, its also happened with Cantona.

We're using our best player to his advantages. If Rooney were to not play, we would adapt as we normally do and play a different way imo.

ciderman9000000 · 8th February 2010, 19:54

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x42bn6 · 8th February 2010, 20:08

If only those were Owen Goals.

gaffs · 8th February 2010, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylar

Its not a worry as we're building the team around Rooney rather than him just plain out carrying us. It happened with Ronaldo previously, Ruud before that, its also happened with Cantona.

We're using our best player to his advantages. If Rooney were to not play, we would adapt as we normally do and play a different way imo.

Dangerous thing about bulding a team around one player is that if he is not playing, its not easy to adapt - especially without a similar replacement.

Take Arsenal loosing Van Persie - they dont look the same team without him.

The other point, is that players like Owen and Berbatov are getting little game time. If and when they do come into the side, will we be able to rely on them, especially in big games?

Pogue Mahone · 8th February 2010, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaffs

He's our second highest scorer with 9 goals.

Sure, some of those would probably have ended up as goals anyway, like Nani v Arsenal.

But is it a worry that only Rooney is in double figures?

It would be if there were any other teams in the league with two strikers in double figures. But there isn't. So it's not.

The closest second striker to our number two would be Anelka, who's managed the same amount of league goals as Berbatov but took over 500 more minutes to rack them up.

Ole's_toe_poke · 8th February 2010, 20:26

If Rooney gets 30 odd this season. A big likelihood.
And Berbatov gets 15 odd this season. Also a likelihood.
And the odd midfielder chips in with a goal. I think we will be ok.

Dyslexic Untied · 8th February 2010, 21:30

There is a thread on this in the football forum already.

lysglimt started it I think.

green demon · 8th February 2010, 21:36

I was thinking about starting a thread on own goals and wondered why we've had so many this season. The only (stupid) idea I've had is that as we seem to have been "victims" of many in-offs in the past, and as some people believe that what goes round comes around, this is our year to benefit. Beyond that stupid notion, I've no real idea and suggest it's all down to chance.

I can imagine the RAWKers claiming that the opposition are conspiring with us just to spite them so it has its humerous side. But as the O.P. said, some would have gone in anyway.

Chris H · 8th February 2010, 22:53

How many did we get last year? I'm thinking that without those anomalous 3 against Portsmouth (which did not affect the outcome of the game), we're probably about where we were last year with these.

Laphroaig · 8th February 2010, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Chris H

How many did we get last year?

Not a single one, according to stretfordend.

If I was Carrick I'd be annoyed if I wasn't given the deflected goal.

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Originally Posted by Ruben

There is a thread on this in the football forum already.

lysglimt started it I think.

Yep. Thread theft.

johnmufc · 8th February 2010, 23:04

Carrick said in the post-match interview that he'll be appealing to get it marked down as his.

Think it will be, was definitely going on target, bizarre that they had it down as an own goal.

With that said, Carrick now has 5 goals, I reckon he could get to 10 this season. Valencia, too, should manage to get 10+.

We're doing very well in goals from midfield this season.

^Red Devil^ · 8th February 2010, 23:23

The penalties sure haven't been there for us this year.

beardsleybob · 8th February 2010, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmufc

Carrick said in the post-match interview that he'll be appealing to get it marked down as his.

Think it will be, was definitely going on target, bizarre that they had it down as an own goal.

With that said, Carrick now has 5 goals, I reckon he could get to 10 this season. Valencia, too, should manage to get 10+.

We're doing very well in goals from midfield this season.

there's a thread from last week on that. And it's interesting how the midfielders have stepped up and filled in on the goal threat

anver · 9th February 2010, 05:18

Most of the own goals have been scored under intense pressure. You got to give credit to the attack, and not just laugh it away.

RedRonaldo · 9th February 2010, 05:27

Own goals > Owen goals

Stretch · 9th February 2010, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaffs

He's our second highest scorer with 9 goals.

Sure, some of those would probably have ended up as goals anyway, like Nani v Arsenal.

But is it a worry that only Rooney is in double figures?

I don't think it is a worry or concern. Rooney is playing in a similar role Ruud used to play for us. He is hogging the six yard box and is focused on finishing unlike previous seasons where he used to roam the pitch. We are playing great as a team at the moment and it is the pressure we create that have caused the own goals. Lady luck is also smiling upon us because we usually create a lot of pressure but get zero reward for it.

Allforone · 9th February 2010, 09:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRonaldo

Own goals > Owen goals

Own goals has had far more match time, totaly unfair comparison.

gambit28 · 9th February 2010, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allforone

Own goals has had far more match time, totaly unfair comparison.

Chris H · 10th February 2010, 20:40

Strikes again...that makes ten. More than one way to get a double-figure strike partner for Rooney.

Doevle · 10th February 2010, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allforone

Own goals has had far more match time, totaly unfair comparison.

gaffs · 10th February 2010, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allforone

Own goals has had far more match time, totaly unfair comparison.

Own Goals now has an Owen style 32 page brochure.

holyland red · 10th February 2010, 22:52

At this rate he can still make the WC

judge2nd · 10th February 2010, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by holyland red

At this rate he can still make the WC

Kelvin · 11th February 2010, 00:55

own goal is now our 2nd best route to goals after rooney.

gulli_G · 11th February 2010, 01:19

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Originally Posted by Kelvin

own goal is now our 2nd best route to goals after rooney.

he puts fat frank to shame!

Scoreboard Red · 11th February 2010, 01:26

The ABUs are clearly in the agreement that these ten oggies are down to luck and referee-favourability, but the plain fact is most of these goals are due to the pressure and forcfeul manner in which we attack, effectively forcing these defenders into panic and deflections.
The one the fella scored on Saturday (the third when he volleyed it in) was a tad flukey, but the one from Giggs today was a goal all over, if it didn't go in off Collins, it would have been someone else.

MUFC07 · 11th February 2010, 02:18

He's off to Madrid

8th February 2010, 19:34	#1 (permalink)
gaffs First Team Sub Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hit Me, Bebe, One More Time! Posts: 9,355	Mr O. Goal.... <a href="http://d.mediadakine.com/ck.php?n=ad232b97&cb=41941" target="_blank"><img src="http://d.mediadakine.com/avw.php?zoneid=81&cb=41941&n=ad232b97" border="0" alt="" /></a> He's our second highest scorer with 9 goals. Sure, some of those would probably have ended up as goals anyway, like Nani v Arsenal. But is it a worry that only Rooney is in double figures?

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Chris H First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,397	Mr. O. Goal Strikes again...that makes ten. More than one way to get a double-figure strike partner for Rooney.

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8th February 2010, 19:36	#2 (permalink)
Sylar Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,452	Its not a worry as we're building the team around Rooney rather than him just plain out carrying us. It happened with Ronaldo previously, Ruud before that, its also happened with Cantona. We're using our best player to his advantages. If Rooney were to not play, we would adapt as we normally do and play a different way imo.

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x42bn6 First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 西田麻衣の開裂. Being a nerd, geek and virgin Posts: 14,591	If only those were Owen Goals.

8th February 2010, 20:26	#7 (permalink)
Ole's_toe_poke First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rooney. Rooney. Rooney. Posts: 6,740	If Rooney gets 30 odd this season. A big likelihood. And Berbatov gets 15 odd this season. Also a likelihood. And the odd midfielder chips in with a goal. I think we will be ok.

8th February 2010, 21:30	#8 (permalink)
Dyslexic Untied Ruben Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oslo Posts: 8,960	There is a thread on this in the football forum already. lysglimt started it I think.

8th February 2010, 21:36	#9 (permalink)
green demon Caf Nostradamous 2008 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: I wouldn't sell that Mob a virus for less than 80 million. Posts: 7,180	I was thinking about starting a thread on own goals and wondered why we've had so many this season. The only (stupid) idea I've had is that as we seem to have been "victims" of many in-offs in the past, and as some people believe that what goes round comes around, this is our year to benefit. Beyond that stupid notion, I've no real idea and suggest it's all down to chance. I can imagine the RAWKers claiming that the opposition are conspiring with us just to spite them so it has its humerous side. But as the O.P. said, some would have gone in anyway.

8th February 2010, 22:53	#10 (permalink)
Chris H First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,397	How many did we get last year? I'm thinking that without those anomalous 3 against Portsmouth (which did not affect the outcome of the game), we're probably about where we were last year with these.

8th February 2010, 23:04	#12 (permalink)
johnmufc Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Daniel Nii Tackie Mensah Welbeck's #1 fan Posts: 3,165	Carrick said in the post-match interview that he'll be appealing to get it marked down as his. Think it will be, was definitely going on target, bizarre that they had it down as an own goal. With that said, Carrick now has 5 goals, I reckon he could get to 10 this season. Valencia, too, should manage to get 10+. We're doing very well in goals from midfield this season.

8th February 2010, 23:23	#13 (permalink)
^Red Devil^ Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Newton Heath L&YR F.C. Posts: 1,428	The penalties sure haven't been there for us this year.

9th February 2010, 05:18	#15 (permalink)
anver Shart stop Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colombo. Sri-Lanka Posts: 3,082	Most of the own goals have been scored under intense pressure. You got to give credit to the attack, and not just laugh it away.

9th February 2010, 05:27	#16 (permalink)
RedRonaldo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,501	Own goals > Owen goals

10th February 2010, 22:52	#23 (permalink)
holyland red First Team Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 11,605	At this rate he can still make the WC

11th February 2010, 00:55	#25 (permalink)
Kelvin First Team Muppet Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14,516	own goal is now our 2nd best route to goals after rooney.

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Scoreboard Red Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 3,130	The ABUs are clearly in the agreement that these ten oggies are down to luck and referee-favourability, but the plain fact is most of these goals are due to the pressure and forcfeul manner in which we attack, effectively forcing these defenders into panic and deflections. The one the fella scored on Saturday (the third when he volleyed it in) was a tad flukey, but the one from Giggs today was a goal all over, if it didn't go in off Collins, it would have been someone else.

11th February 2010, 02:18	#28 (permalink)
MUFC07 First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mexico City. "I'm looking for abstract ways of expressing reality, abstract forms that will enlighten my own mistery" Eric Cantona Posts: 6,113	He's off to Madrid