Nani will reignite our charge to the title

Marcus · 14th January 2010, 03:32

He is:

a) Our best dead-ball specialist (corners and free-kicks)

b) Our best long-range shot specialist.

c) Our most tricky winger.

All the above attributes help teams to win tight games. Hopefully he apologises to SAF, buries the hatchet with SAF and gets a run of a few games. We will all be suprised how well he can do.

Come on Nani.

BAMSOLA · 14th January 2010, 03:41

I take it you haven't seen him play this season?

Marcus · 14th January 2010, 03:46

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Originally Posted by BAMSOLA

I take it you haven't seen him play this season?

He started out quite brightly if I recall correctly. But lost confidence after he was dropped for squad rotation purposes. It would be understating it to say that his ability to stay focussed is fragile, but that's just how some people are wired. I think he can do the job if given another chance. Lack of understanding with team-mates resulting in stray passes is something which more game time can rectify.

Sc40les · 14th January 2010, 03:55

The new Kieran Richardson but even less likable.

RedMist99 · 14th January 2010, 03:55

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Originally Posted by Marcus

He is:

a) Our best dead-ball specialist (corners and free-kicks)

b) Our best long-range shot specialist.

c) Our most tricky winger.

All the above attributes help teams to win tight games. Hopefully he apologises to SAF, buries the hatchet with SAF and gets a run of a few games. We will all be suprised how well he can do.

Come on Nani.

a) Not exactly difficult considering our team is devoid of anyone able to simply put a ball into the box

b) I'm sure Gibson would have something to say about that

c) I peronally think Giggs and Obertan are more tricky players. Even if Nani did win this one, its what he does after hes taken his man on. Complete inability to pick out a simple pass or make the right decision quickly

marchi-91 · 14th January 2010, 04:03

If it weren't for injuries he would have played against Leeds. We really lacked his creative spark, and its not like he never tries. Something that couldn't be said for Welbeck and Obertan in that game... Give Giggs a mid season break and let Nani run the left wing for a bit.

Allforone · 14th January 2010, 04:09

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Originally Posted by Marcus

He is:

a) Our best dead-ball specialist (corners and free-kicks)

b) Our best long-range shot specialist.

c) Our most tricky winger.

All the above attributes help teams to win tight games. Hopefully he apologises to SAF, buries the hatchet with SAF and gets a run of a few games. We will all be suprised how well he can do.

Come on Nani.

I would love to believe you...but...its Nani

x42bn6 · 14th January 2010, 04:14

Put it this way - he surely can't play any worse than he has this season.

... Right?

kietotheworld · 14th January 2010, 04:17

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Originally Posted by RedMist99

b) I'm sure Gibson would have something to say about that

He's our best specialist at long range shooting in that he can't really do anything else and shoots whenever he gets the slightest sight of goal.

Domzi · 14th January 2010, 04:19

If he scores more than 7 times by March I'll give away my ticket for the Liverpool home time to someone on here.

Ole's_toe_poke · 14th January 2010, 04:34

Well he needs to do something or he is out in the summer.

B Cantona · 14th January 2010, 04:39

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Originally Posted by Domzi

If he scores more than 7 times by March I'll give away my ticket for the Liverpool home time to someone on here.

I thought you'd already promised that to Mabs?!

I think our opening poster has been enjoying his ales this evening

It's a bit like Berbatov. You can see the talent, and he should be a really top class player. But for whatever reason, it's just not happening

Coming out in the press and speaking negatively is just stupid though, what a prick

UBERScholes · 14th January 2010, 04:46

Wouldn't mind seeing him get a run of games. I think the pressure of the odd games he does play has a negative influence on him and he's desperate to impress in the time he's given. He either becomes incredibly selfish or really cautious, trying not to make mistakes. Maybe if he can't handle that pressure he won't succeed here but if he plays a few games on the trot I think he'll relax and settle into some decent form.

Marcus · 14th January 2010, 04:56

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Originally Posted by B Cantona

I thought you'd already promised that to Mabs?!

I think our opening poster has been enjoying his ales this evening

It's a bit like Berbatov. You can see the talent, and he should be a really top class player. But for whatever reason, it's just not happening

Coming out in the press and speaking negatively is just stupid though, what a prick

Seriously. If you look at games like the one vs Birmingham, we totally dominated them but had no-one with the oh-shit factor to trouble them from distance. Personally, I believe that teams fear Nani when he plays on the left and cuts in to have a shot with his right-foot. When you instill fear, players get dragged out of position and this creates space for the rest to play. It's a bit early for ale by then way and I'm more a root beer kind of guy.

Marcus · 14th January 2010, 04:57

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Originally Posted by UBERScholes

Wouldn't mind seeing him get a run of games. I think the pressure of the odd games he does play has a negative influence on him and he's desperate to impress in the time he's given. He either becomes incredibly selfish or really cautious, trying not to make mistakes. Maybe if he can't handle that pressure he won't succeed here but if he plays a few games on the trot I think he'll relax and settle into some decent form.

This.

SharkyMcShark · 14th January 2010, 04:57

a) Giggs.

b) Gibson, Scholes, Carrick

c) Obertan, Giggs, Valencia

I hope he's got his head sorted. There's no point having all that potential if all you do is fluff your chances and make stupid decisions.

Chris H · 14th January 2010, 04:57

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Nani will reignite our charge to the title

Mounted atop his trusty unicorn, glowing light saber in hand.

Hey this is fun! Probably belongs in the General Forum though.

RedDevilCanuck · 14th January 2010, 04:58

Say what you want but check his stats, he is pretty fecking productive.

He's had a terrible year although it started brightly.

He needs a run of games and that is tough to get at Manchester United. We rotate and pick the on form players. Nani also ran his mouth and I bet this cost him a game or 2.

I hope he comes back soon. He is one of few players we have that can score out of nothing. Only Rooney and Giggs really.

RedDevilCanuck · 14th January 2010, 05:00

If he didn't have such a hateable face and if he didn't act like a pick on and off the field people on here would be for more patient with him.

CR#7 · 14th January 2010, 05:03

Been along time since we have since Nani I hope so along with the return of Rio and hopefuly Hargreaves lets get it done boys wooooooo

BAMSOLA · 14th January 2010, 05:43

For what its worth i'd like to see him and Obertan start against Burnley. i'd also like to see Diouf make his home debut from the start.

Wittmann45 · 14th January 2010, 05:59

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Originally Posted by RedDevilCanuck

Say what you want but check his stats, he is pretty fecking productive.

He's had a terrible year although it started brightly.

He needs a run of games and that is tough to get at Manchester United. We rotate and pick the on form players. Nani also ran his mouth and I bet this cost him a game or 2.

I hope he comes back soon. He is one of few players we have that can score out of nothing. Only Rooney and Giggs really.

It seems to have cost him a little more then 2 games

Isn't Wolfsburg away the last time he played?

Christofaux · 14th January 2010, 06:28

Maybe he can turn into the car, robot or the spaceship and 'rescue' the season.

Chapster · 14th January 2010, 07:03

I think he would benefit from having a 'you are gonna start the next 3-4 games no matter what' kind of thing to let him build some momentum and not feel he has to show the whole bag of tricks in 60minutes or 5 minutes or whatever

marchi-91 · 14th January 2010, 07:11

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Originally Posted by Chapster

I think he would benefit from having a 'you are gonna start the next 3-4 games no matter what' kind of thing to let him build some momentum and not feel he has to show the whole bag of tricks in 60minutes or 5 minutes or whatever

He'll more then likely play both games against city so I'd like to see him play against Burnley and Hull also.

SharkyMcShark · 14th January 2010, 07:11

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Originally Posted by Chapster

I think he would benefit from having a 'you are gonna start the next 3-4 games no matter what' kind of thing to let him build some momentum and not feel he has to show the whole bag of tricks in 60minutes or 5 minutes or whatever

Given our wastlefulness of chances to really close the gap with Chelsea in the last few months I'd say that's not going to happen.

Tumbling-Dice · 14th January 2010, 07:13

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Originally Posted by BAMSOLA

For what its worth i'd like to see him and Obertan start against Burnley. i'd also like to see Diouf make his home debut from the start.

Aye, let's underestimate Burnley again, that's a good idea.

Valencia and Rooney to start please.

askabob91 · 14th January 2010, 07:13

Is he still injured?

I would love to see him back, because although he may be a bit shit at times, he can provide the creativity that we are devoid of these days. Even once or twice a game, he can provide a killer pass, cross, or shot, and be shit the rest of the game, but it's a lot more than what we are currently doing.

Shimo · 14th January 2010, 07:17

From all the Qatar pics and stuff looks like he is back in full training.

As for the title of this thread, certainly hope it is prophetic. I also think he started the season very well - it was after a good pre-season with a lot of games and then the injury and then the forced rotation seemed to derail him.

Him and Valencia on both wings could be very good for us. Valencia pretty much gives us consistency down the left, with some of the same shown to Nani now, perhaps it will be just what we need going forward.

Chapster · 14th January 2010, 07:20

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

Given our wastlefulness of chances to really close the gap with Chelsea in the last few months I'd say that's not going to happen.

Agreed, but he's hardly been a guilty party when he hasn't been taking part! If he feels he has the backing of the manager and doesn't need to win games on his own to keep his spot, then I think he'll settle down and not go for the 'hollywood' ball everytime he has it.

Sure, he should know that he doesn't need to but he's still relatively young and his experience so far has been good performance, dropped, bad performance, dropped for longer, so for all he can work out he needs to have a ronaldo-esque performance to remain in the team.

SharkyMcShark · 14th January 2010, 07:23

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Originally Posted by Chapster

Agreed, but he's hardly been a guilty party when he hasn't been taking part! If he feels he has the backing of the manager and doesn't need to win games on his own to keep his spot, then I think he'll settle down and not go for the 'hollywood' ball everytime he has it.

Sure, he should know that he doesn't need to but he's still relatively young and his experience so far has been good performance, dropped, bad performance, dropped for longer, so for all he can work out he needs to have a ronaldo-esque performance to remain in the team.

Obviously I'm not saying he should be frozen out, as he's shown in the past as much as he can be ineffective and infuriating he's capable of briliiance aswell. I don't think telling him he's undroppable for a few games is the right thing to do though (although clearly pointing out that he'll get more games if he puts in good performances is).

marchi-91 · 14th January 2010, 07:24

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

Given our wastlefulness of chances to really close the gap with Chelsea in the last few months I'd say that's not going to happen.

On the flip side give our uselessness in the final 3rd, he couldn't do any worse. He alteast has the balls to take a shot from beyond the 18 yard box.

SharkyMcShark · 14th January 2010, 07:26

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Originally Posted by marchi-91

On the flip side give our uselessness in the final 3rd, he couldn't do any worse. He alteast has the balls to take a shot from beyond the 18 yard box.

Have seen seen Rooney play recently?

Chapster · 14th January 2010, 07:29

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

Obviously I'm not saying he should be frozen out, as he's shown in the past as much as he can be ineffective and infuriating he's capable of briliiance aswell. I don't think telling him he's undroppable for a few games is the right thing to do though (although clearly pointing out that he'll get more games if he puts in good performances is).

I think expressing some form of confidence in him and letting him know he'll have a run of games wouldn't hurt. From what we can tell, his next start will be his last for a couple of weeks again regardless of performance/output

BAMSOLA · 14th January 2010, 07:33

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Originally Posted by Tumbling-Dice

Aye, let's underestimate Burnley again, that's a good idea.

Valencia and Rooney to start please.

4-4-2 at home should mean Rooney starts anyway. As for Valencia no reason why we should need him as a side with that amount of attacking talent should be enough to see off Burnley.

Underestimating them?

Possibly but if we can only beat Burnley with Valencia on the pitch then we are in more trouble than some think.

dev1l · 14th January 2010, 07:41

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Originally Posted by RedDevilCanuck

If he didn't have such a hateable face and if he didn't act like a pick on and off the field people on here would be for more patient with him.

This does not bode well for valencia...

Tumbling-Dice · 14th January 2010, 07:44

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Originally Posted by BAMSOLA

4-4-2 at home should mean Rooney starts anyway. As for Valencia no reason why we should need him as a side with that amount of attacking talent should be enough to see off Burnley.

Underestimating them?

Possibly but if we can only beat Burnley with Valencia on the pitch then we are in more trouble than some think.

I'd rather start with our best side and sub players on when we are 3 or 4 up, that's the way I'd always prefer us to do it.

Did you see Obertan against Leeds ? He ain't all that, there's no way SAF will start Nani and Obertan against Burnley and bench Valencia.

marchi-91 · 14th January 2010, 07:45

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

Have seen seen Rooney play recently?

You mean where he barely got a shot away even with massive possesion in the first half again Brummies? I did.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 14th January 2010, 08:24

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Originally Posted by Marcus

He is:

a) Our best dead-ball specialist (corners and free-kicks)

He is level with Giggs at that.

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Originally Posted by Marcus

b) Our best long-range shot specialist.

He is behind Gibson and Scholes.

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Originally Posted by Marcus

c) Our most tricky winger.

Yes. but he isn't consistent enough sadly

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Originally Posted by Marcus

All the above attributes help teams to win tight games. Hopefully he apologises to SAF, buries the hatchet with SAF and gets a run of a few games. We will all be suprised how well he can do.

Come on Nani.

I'd rather he simply just returns to the form of his first season. That's all we need from him right now.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 14th January 2010, 08:27

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Originally Posted by UBERScholes

Wouldn't mind seeing him get a run of games. I think the pressure of the odd games he does play has a negative influence on him and he's desperate to impress in the time he's given. He either becomes incredibly selfish or really cautious, trying not to make mistakes. Maybe if he can't handle that pressure he won't succeed here but if he plays a few games on the trot I think he'll relax and settle into some decent form.

I'm paying this is the case. I really like him as a player. but he is so frustrating.

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Marcus Couldn't buy a clue Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Dream Team: Ole - reserve coach, Cantona - Asst Manager, Schmikes - Goalie coach Posts: 2,529	Nani will reignite our charge to the title <a href="http://d.mediadakine.com/ck.php?n=ad232b97&cb=727" target="_blank"><img src="http://d.mediadakine.com/avw.php?zoneid=81&cb=727&n=ad232b97" border="0" alt="" /></a> He is: a) Our best dead-ball specialist (corners and free-kicks) b) Our best long-range shot specialist. c) Our most tricky winger. All the above attributes help teams to win tight games. Hopefully he apologises to SAF, buries the hatchet with SAF and gets a run of a few games. We will all be suprised how well he can do. Come on Nani.

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14th January 2010, 03:41	#2 (permalink)
BAMSOLA Has issues! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow. Posts: 4,528	I take it you haven't seen him play this season?

14th January 2010, 03:55	#4 (permalink)
Sc40les Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,074	The new Kieran Richardson but even less likable.

14th January 2010, 04:03	#6 (permalink)
marchi-91 First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Learning scouse with Diver! Posts: 5,025	If it weren't for injuries he would have played against Leeds. We really lacked his creative spark, and its not like he never tries. Something that couldn't be said for Welbeck and Obertan in that game... Give Giggs a mid season break and let Nani run the left wing for a bit.

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x42bn6 First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: :(){ :\|:& };: Posts: 11,677	Put it this way - he surely can't play any worse than he has this season. ... Right?

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Domzi Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,510	If he scores more than 7 times by March I'll give away my ticket for the Liverpool home time to someone on here.

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Ole's_toe_poke Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rooney. Rooney. Rooney. Posts: 3,430	Well he needs to do something or he is out in the summer.

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UBERScholes I'd find it flattering if someone hard rubbed against me. Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 14,118	Wouldn't mind seeing him get a run of games. I think the pressure of the odd games he does play has a negative influence on him and he's desperate to impress in the time he's given. He either becomes incredibly selfish or really cautious, trying not to make mistakes. Maybe if he can't handle that pressure he won't succeed here but if he plays a few games on the trot I think he'll relax and settle into some decent form.

14th January 2010, 04:57	#16 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark First Team Sub Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 8,849	a) Giggs. b) Gibson, Scholes, Carrick c) Obertan, Giggs, Valencia I hope he's got his head sorted. There's no point having all that potential if all you do is fluff your chances and make stupid decisions.

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RedDevilCanuck Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 2,019	Say what you want but check his stats, he is pretty fecking productive. He's had a terrible year although it started brightly. He needs a run of games and that is tough to get at Manchester United. We rotate and pick the on form players. Nani also ran his mouth and I bet this cost him a game or 2. I hope he comes back soon. He is one of few players we have that can score out of nothing. Only Rooney and Giggs really.

14th January 2010, 05:00	#19 (permalink)
RedDevilCanuck Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 2,019	If he didn't have such a hateable face and if he didn't act like a pick on and off the field people on here would be for more patient with him.

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CR#7 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,243	Been along time since we have since Nani I hope so along with the return of Rio and hopefuly Hargreaves lets get it done boys wooooooo

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BAMSOLA Has issues! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow. Posts: 4,528	For what its worth i'd like to see him and Obertan start against Burnley. i'd also like to see Diouf make his home debut from the start.

14th January 2010, 06:28	#23 (permalink)
Christofaux First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7,519	Maybe he can turn into the car, robot or the spaceship and 'rescue' the season.

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Chapster Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,938	I think he would benefit from having a 'you are gonna start the next 3-4 games no matter what' kind of thing to let him build some momentum and not feel he has to show the whole bag of tricks in 60minutes or 5 minutes or whatever

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askabob91 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Go to hell Carolina go to hell Posts: 2,006	Is he still injured? I would love to see him back, because although he may be a bit shit at times, he can provide the creativity that we are devoid of these days. Even once or twice a game, he can provide a killer pass, cross, or shot, and be shit the rest of the game, but it's a lot more than what we are currently doing.

14th January 2010, 07:17	#29 (permalink)
Shimo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,272	From all the Qatar pics and stuff looks like he is back in full training. As for the title of this thread, certainly hope it is prophetic. I also think he started the season very well - it was after a good pre-season with a lot of games and then the injury and then the forced rotation seemed to derail him. Him and Valencia on both wings could be very good for us. Valencia pretty much gives us consistency down the left, with some of the same shown to Nani now, perhaps it will be just what we need going forward.