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Old 26th September 2008, 13:55   #41 (permalink)
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Apparently a fan should support our back-up players as much as first team players. That's what it's all about. You're not always going to see Ronaldo and Ferdinand play, you have to stick with what you got on the pitch and back them properly.
I have some sympathy with that. There seems a growing culture of United supporters only attending or being up for 'big games'. Which is precisely what we've always accused other clubs of, only coming to see United...

I think a lot of that is down to ticketing though. Personally I would have an enforced ACS, but in a much different form to that which exists today. I think supporters who purchase a season ticket should be required to attend all games. But, I also think they deserve at the outset of the season to know precisely how much they're required to spend on their season ticket.

I'd do it so the fixed cost incorporates an estimate of how many cup games you'll have in a season. So the season ticket price wise would be equivalent to 19 league games, and say seven additional cup games (1 Carling cup, 2 FA Cup, 4 Champions League). Although I think a supporter committed to attending every game should have a discount for their loyalty, so that would be incorporated too. If United play less home cup games than that, its tough. If they play more cup games, there's no further additional cost

That way at least its all open and fair at the time of purchase. And the club knows its getting a gaurenteed income too. Other clubs have season tickets in a similar manner, where your ticket gets you into cup games too
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Old 26th September 2008, 14:19   #42 (permalink)
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Other clubs have season tickets in a similar manner, where your ticket gets you into cup games too
You get into everything with the exception of CL games for STs in Germany, Italy and Spain.

Trouble is, the season tickets cost as little as 90euros Brad!
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Old 26th September 2008, 14:23   #43 (permalink)
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You get into everything with the exception of CL games for STs in Germany, Italy and Spain.

Trouble is, the season tickets cost as little as 90euros Brad!
But you're forced to buy a membership which is much more costly, is that correct Ralphie? I know its the case for Barca, but don't know for other teams

I think a lot of the way United runs its ticketing is outdated frankly. But they coin it in as a result, so why change it I guess is their thinking?
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Old 26th September 2008, 14:32   #44 (permalink)
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Old 26th September 2008, 14:51   #45 (permalink)
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But you're forced to buy a membership which is much more costly, is that correct Ralphie? I know its the case for Barca, but don't know for other teams

I think a lot of the way United runs its ticketing is outdated frankly. But they coin it in as a result, so why change it I guess is their thinking?
To get the cheap STs you have to be a member at Barca. And at Cologne (45euro - for which you get a lot). Don't know about the rest.

I'd be very surprised if that wasn't their thinking.
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Old 26th September 2008, 15:12   #46 (permalink)
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To get the cheap STs you have to be a member at Barca. And at Cologne (45euro - for which you get a lot). Don't know about the rest.

I'd be very surprised if that wasn't their thinking.
You think that could work here? And do you think its a fairer system?

I was actually referring to lower division teams that include cup tickets in the cost of the initial season ticket
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You think that could work here? And do you think its a fairer system?

I was actually referring to lower division teams that include cup tickets in the cost of the initial season ticket
Well it's a fairer system because the ticket prices are so reasonable. The problem is that the fans (particularly in Italy) see the Cup games as free and valueless. So you see empty stadiums even when tickets are technically sold.

I'm not aware of lower division clubs that include cup tickets actually (apart from the Leyland Daf first rounds).
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Well it's a fairer system because the ticket prices are so reasonable. The problem is that the fans (particularly in Italy) see the Cup games as free and valueless. So you see empty stadiums even when tickets are technically sold.

I'm not aware of lower division clubs that include cup tickets actually (apart from the Leyland Daf first rounds).
You see league games like that in Italy these days!

I should do some more research before making such claims about the lower leagues actually. It'd definately happened, but there's no saying how frequently and whether anyone continues to use that system. These days clubs like Dale just charge up to £18 to get in anyway, for League 2 footy
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I should do some more research before making such claims about the lower leagues actually. It'd definately happened, but there's no saying how frequently and whether anyone continues to use that system. These days clubs like Dale just charge up to £18 to get in anyway, for League 2 footy
Woooaaaah there tiger. I simply said I "wasn't aware" of lower league clubs doing this. I never said some didn't.

Yes, the pricing is ridiculous. £24 a Blackpool now if you're not a member.
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Woooaaaah there tiger. I simply said I "wasn't aware" of lower league clubs doing this. I never said some didn't.

Yes, the pricing is ridiculous. £24 a Blackpool now if you're not a member.
Well I just realised if questioned, I couldn't justify my claim! I can't remember which teams did it either

That said lower league teams aren't expecting to progress beyond one or two rounds anyway, so there's no saying it would work for a team that progresses to the latter stages of such competitions on a regular basis
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You get into everything with the exception of CL games for STs in Germany, Italy and Spain.

Trouble is, the season tickets cost as little as 90euros Brad!
How do they do it for 90 euros. Assuming you only get to see 20 games that's about $8 Aust a game. You couldn't watch Perth Glory for less than about $12 a game and they're pub standard. Do you have to stand outside the ground for that or do you still have to pay an entrance fee on top of it. An Italian mate of mine about 10 years ago was telling me it cost about $100.00 Aust to see a top game in Italy.
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