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But I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Mourinho won the treble with Inter, something they'd never done before. They lost quite a big lead but they still finished top. Blanc ended up taking Bordeux to 6th. Let's see how he does at France. |
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Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn )
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But I think he looks to have done a terrific job at Preston and Everton |
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Not this bollocks again, can't we just be glad that we've got the best manager in world football and let him get on with it until he feels he can't go on any longer? When that day comes (hopefully by that time I'll have grey pubes) I'll accept whoever Sir Alex and Sir Bobby recommend as the next manager, even if it's the conceited one.
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it depends, the board may decide to extend the policy of signing young unproven players and turning them into world class players, to the managers role. Of course, who then nurtures them? Unless they are being nurtured as we speak. The one stand out for me is Ole. His character is totally different to SAFs though, more introvert. But he would have the respect of the players.
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Would never want him in a million years but going on achievements I'd say Redknapp should be ahead of Moyes. |
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I personally would like to see Mourinho as SAF's successor, I'm not the biggest fan of his philosophy on the game or his lack of longevity at a football club, but wherever he goes, he wins. 3-5 years of continued success and the removal of the "SAF's successor" millstone would be worth it IMO. As I've said in many different threads on the topic though, I can't see David Gill and Bobby Charlton going down the Mourinho route. I unlike some others would understand why. The people who think it's "inevitable", "nailed on" and such are in for disappointment IMO. |
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You have an annoying habit of ignoring posts which expose you as talking balls.
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i don think there's any doubt about it really.mourinho has made it pretty clear he'd want the job and if you were the owner looking for a new manager you go for the one with the very best track record you could get and that'll be him.
not totally sure how i feel about it mind, never completly warmed to him as a character but the guys a serious winner you cant doubt his results. I'd be absolutely amazed if he didnt get the job after fergie |
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Like I've said, I'd reluctantly go for Mourinho but Moyes is a legitimate contender for the job, his achievements and team building at Everton deserve admiration rather than the ridicule of the Jose fanbois. |
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I think Moyes has done very well at Everton, at most they could have come closer to finishing in the top 4 more than once, but its very difficult given his resources. If Rooney had stayed at Everton Moyes might have been able to take them further.
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I don't think Moyes has been a patch on Fergie from that period. Moyes has done well, but I am more interested in tactics than budgets to be fair. |
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I am saying that the club may prefer to go inhouse. They would probably ask SAFs opinion and we know that SAF has the history of the club at his heart. That for me, stops Maureen being a contender. He may say he understands the club but I doubt he would ever understand. Especially as his first club is really Chelsea/Porto. CQ I hope does not get offered the role. He is a very good assistant, but a crap manager. Anyone who thinks Cantona should be the next manager, clearly never saw Mr. Prunier in action. Though a double act of Ole and Cantona would be amusing I am sure!! Ole picks the players, Eric does the team talks!! |
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The question I posed was whether Moyes deserved consideration for the United post once SAF packs in? I for one, think he does. As for tactics, Moyes does seem very iron-clad in his use of the 4-5-1, but I reckon that's due to the player's at his disposal. I'd like to see Moyes given a crack at a top, well financed club and then judge his tactical nous. Right now he can only work with the group he's got, a group that is suited to 4-5-1. |
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Moyes is an excellent manager, he's done a great job at Everton but personally I dont think he will replace Fergie for the simple reason that he has zero experience of managing in Europe.
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It will be a surreal experience for everybody in football to see someone else in Fergie's dugout, especially for those such as myself who know nothing other than United being managed by Fergie. It will be a huge hole to fill and we'll be in a period of transition post-SAF no matter who comes in, if we get the wrong man though, that transition could very well turn into severe decline. If Mourinho came, kept the trophies rolling in for a few years, that'd remove the pressure of succeeding SAF for the next man in line. |
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No thanks. People seem totally blind to his tactical failings. I like him as a person and he seems to treat his players in a similar manner to SAF, does well with the youth players too, but he is so negative on the pitch at times it beggars belief.
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His "failure" of a Chelsea side got the CL that year and finished just behind United in the league - despite tehe fact that they had Avram "relegation zone" Grant in charge. For the record the current Chelsea team has hardly any additions from Mourinho's and play an almost identical system based around Drogba - another Jose masterstroke. At Inter - where he inherited an ageing squad, he turned them from average European side to Eurpoean Champions, knocking out the imperious Barcalona on the way. Oh - and signed Milito and Eto'o while still banking a fortune for Ibrahimovic. They only look dodgy now beacuse Rafa is in charge - they wouldn't have got anywhere near teh CL final last year without Jose's tactical nouse. Your post has to be one of the most uninformed I've ever read on here and that really is saying something. |
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Mourinho for me, he has the charisma and personality to take over from Fergie and he has the record to boot, not to mention that he couldn't make it much clearer that he wants the job.
He's proven the "boring" tag is nonsense with the way his Real Madrid team have played and I have no doubt he would continue our attacking philosophy if he was made manager here. The only real question is how long would he stay? I think once he completes his mission in Madrid to win the 3 main European leagues he can set his next task to creating an empire of his own and no better place than here. Of the other choices such as Moyes and Blanc I am not sold but wouldn't be agaisnt either, I just don't want Martin O'Neil. I'd rule out Guardiola as well as I think he will remain at Barca for quite some time. |
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Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn )
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Just out of interest do you have many examples of when or how Moys has fallen down when tactics are concerned? And I would never class Everton as overly negative either. They play it safe when they have to, why shouldnt they? |
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Has to be Mourinho for me. Especially given his regular flirting with us at the moment. Getting his application in early I guess. |
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Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn )
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I cant understand why everyone thinks it is so likely that we will get Mourinho. How long is his contract in Madrid? If he is doing well that will be extended. Perhaps Madrid will go against history and not sack their manager and there is no way we could afford his get-out claus if we tried to aquire his services. (that is even if he wanted to leave) |
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Moyes has no experience in managing a big club. I've said it before - doing well with no money against the odds is not the same as producing week in week out when you're expected to win nearly every week. I also think comparisons would be made - a young scottish manager taking over from Fergie? Big boots to fill and immense pressure. |
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