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Reserve Team Player
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Eh? Because of those happy, care-free romps of the first couple of weeks? Generally acknowledged that while scoring a barrel-load, we were far too open. Can't see how Carrick is not making a first choice midfield of any shape based on what we've seen this season. Carrick and Jones most impressive for me, wait with bated breath to see how Fergie is going to use Cleverley when he's back.
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#43 (permalink) |
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Very difficult to leave Carrick out of this one at the minute. HHe has been fantastic of late. I would like to see a Carrick/Clev mix. Carrick sitting pulling strings allowing Clev to push on and work those one/two's round the edge of the box that were so prevailant at the start of the season. It would also be nice to see Ando back to the form he was showing at the start of the season.
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#49 (permalink) |
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Oh now. Based on a bit more than that. Carricks credentials based on last 5 years or so. His excellent form not a complete revelation, just the degree to which himself and Jones appear to work together. Seem to me to give a more solid platform tham Cleverley and Ando did. That's all.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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You can claim Jones and Carrick were more solid, and i would agree, but if we look at the quality of opponents we were scoring barrel loads against, Barca, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, City, that for me hints we were onto something potentially very special. In recent times we have depended on possession and wearing teams down to get goals. With that partnership we only needed to be effective for 20mins and we would have 3 goals. Quality of chance created is also very important, and Nani, Rooney and Young were all scoring very regularly for such a short period, which in itself is quite unusual. Also consider that when a team has such devestating counter attcking potential, other teams are reluctant to throw too many men forward, which is why we didn't concede too many during that period imo. |
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#59 (permalink) |
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Bald Boring Cnut
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I'd like to see more of the Carrick - Jones combo.
Carrick with his experience, positioning and passing, combined with Jones energy, runs and presence should in theory be a good pairing. Then it's up to Anderson and Cleverly to force themselves a spot with sub appearances. |
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Bald Boring Cnut
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Lacking creativity in the final third, but partly compensated for that by Jones' runs, which can cause just as much trouble for the opposition as a fancy trick or pass. Also, when you have attacking players like(especially) Rooney and Nani, who can create from nothing, the need for a creative midfielder becomes less of a need.
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Agree with this. It's solid, for sure but not ideal. I'd like to see someone there who can knit our play further up the pitch, which is something anderson and cleverley both did in that partnership early on this season. So ideally I'd like to see one of them start.
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He'll have your eye out and listed on Amazon before you can say "ow!"
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Jones Carrick - Cleverley How's about that? Jones obviously running around like a loon destroying people while Carrick has his pass partner and Cleverley uses his guile and tiki taka to confuddled people. We'd win the World Cup with that midfield IMO. EDIT - Last statement is sarcastic. Really can't be bothered to reply to anyone that takes it seriously. |
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Ret's Slave
Join Date: Aug 2003
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For me it'd be Carrick/Cleverley but they haven't played together yet. I think it'd actually work really well.
Anderson should be nowhere near our best midfield pairing because he's not very good. |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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we'd be fucked without carrick. the only one at the club who can do his role.
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Would love if our players could stay fit for longer than two weeks at a time so we can actually try some of these variations out.
Can't wait till Cleverly is fit personally. I also think Jones is best suited to midfield at the moment after his recent defensive rapings. |
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For 4-4-2,
1. Cleverley and Carrick (most balanced one accordingly to my imagination) 2. Cleverley and Anderson (pass-and-move, Barca on drugs) 3. Carrick and Giggs (tested, 2nd best in Europe) For 4-5-1 against stronger sides, 1. Cleverley, Carrick and Jones (most balanced, adding more steel and power in midfield) 2. Cleverley, Anderson and Carrick (pass-and-move, adding more positional sense to cover for the defence) 3. Giggs, Carrick and Jones (add more steel and power to the tested midfield) |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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At the beginning of the season Cleverly and Anderson were outstanding. I'd really like to see that again...with Young on the left and Nani/Valencia on the right...Rooney and Welbeck/Chicharito up front...holy shit what a line up!!!
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