Our transfer budget?

Devil_forever · 8th July 2008, 15:40

It probably isn't as much as some may imagine, as hargreaves' fee (£18 mill rising to £20 mill) will be paid this summer (not last as most people think). Tevez's second loan payment of £5mill and possibly another £20 mill to make it permanent. Part of Anderson and Nani's installments will also have to be paid. So thats possibly £50 mill + gone already. So how much do you think the Glazers will give us to spend on top of the £50 mill?

Anduin · 8th July 2008, 15:43

I guess it will also depend on sales, Pique moved for around £5m, I guess we'll receive bids for Saha (despite reports claiming he'll stay), probably Campbell, Fletcher or even Evans (not that I want him to be sold though).
Up to £35m is my guess (we only need a top-class striker)

Tibs · 8th July 2008, 15:45

Fergie said we're buying one young player...we're signing Hunter for £16 million

kinkster · 8th July 2008, 15:48

we have £2.50, half a packet of pork scratchins and a can of Iron Brew left in the kitty.

Lizard King · 8th July 2008, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

It probably isn't as much as some may imagine, as hargreaves' fee (£18 mill rising to £20 mill) will be paid this summer (not last as most people think). Tevez's second loan payment of £5mill and possibly another £20 mill to make it permanent. Part of Anderson and Nani's installments will also have to be paid. So thats possibly £50 mill + gone already. So how much do you think the Glazers will give us to spend on top of the £50 mill?

Where'd you hear Hargreaves' fee will be paid this summer? You think Bayern let us have him and told us to pay it back when we like?

Nobody knows the situation with Tevez.

Devil_forever · 8th July 2008, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Lizard King

Where'd you hear Hargreaves' fee will be paid this summer? You think Bayern let us have him and told us to pay it back when we like?

Nobody knows the situation with Tevez.

remember reading that it'll "go into this year's book", just assumed that meant we were paying it this year or does that mean that we've already paid but the transfer will be recorded as a transfer for this season

ralphie88 · 8th July 2008, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

It probably isn't as much as some may imagine, as hargreaves' fee (£18 mill rising to £20 mill) will be paid this summer (not last as most people think). Tevez's second loan payment of £5mill and possibly another £20 mill to make it permanent. Part of Anderson and Nani's installments will also have to be paid. So thats possibly £50 mill + gone already. So how much do you think the Glazers will give us to spend on top of the £50 mill?

Wooooaaaaaahhhh there young sir, I'm not sure your figures are accurate. Also there's nothing to suggest we will make Tevez's deal permanent. You are, however, right to point out that we have payments to make on the players signed last summer.

Averaged out since the Glazers came in we've spent no more than £9m net, probably less. So I'd guess that we'll spend a similar amount this time around. Pique's gone, and assuming we shift one of the likes of Mikkey, Saha, O'Shea then we'll have around £10m coming in, let's say around £6m going out for Nani/Anderson/Tevez (an educated guess this), so I'd be guessing we'll spend around £13-14m.

Unless of course you believe the Glazers's promises of 2005 that they were going to give Fergie £25m a year and another £25m every few years for a superstar.

In which case we'll be splurging in the region of £100m. Can't wait.

EDIT: Of course I'm assuming that Ronaldo is staying.

esmufc07 · 8th July 2008, 16:01

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

Wooooaaaaaahhhh there young sir, I'm not sure your figures are accurate. Also there's nothing to suggest we will make Tevez's deal permanent. You are, however, right to point out that we have payments to make on the players signed last summer.

Averaged out since the Glazers came in we've spent no more than £9m net, probably less. So I'd guess that we'll spend a similar amount this time around. Pique's gone, and assuming we shift one of the likes of Mikkey, Saha, O'Shea then we'll have around £10m coming in, let's say around £6m going out for Nani/Anderson/Tevez (an educated guess this), so I'd be guessing we'll spend around £13-14m.

Unless of course you believe the Glazers's promises of 2005 that they were going to give Fergie £25m a year and another £25m every few years for a superstar.

In which case we'll be splurging in the region of £100m. Can't wait.

I knew as soon as I saw Ralphie's name it would be along the lines of this.

Spoonatov · 8th July 2008, 16:01

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

Wooooaaaaaahhhh there young sir, I'm not sure your figures are accurate. Also there's nothing to suggest we will make Tevez's deal permanent. You are, however, right to point out that we have payments to make on the players signed last summer.

Averaged out since the Glazers came in we've spent no more than £9m net, probably less. So I'd guess that we'll spend a similar amount this time around. Pique's gone, and assuming we shift one of the likes of Mikkey, Saha, O'Shea then we'll have around £10m coming in, let's say around £6m going out for Nani/Anderson/Tevez (an educated guess this), so I'd be guessing we'll spend around £13-14m.

Unless of course you believe the Glazers's promises of 2005 that they were going to give Fergie £25m a year and another £25m every few years for a superstar.

In which case we'll be splurging in the region of £100m. Can't wait.

EDIT: Of course I'm assuming that Ronaldo is staying.

That's spot on. And Tevez will be an extra £10m not £20m. They've spent fuck all. . .and should be thankful to Fergie.

Devil_forever · 8th July 2008, 16:04

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

Wooooaaaaaahhhh there young sir, I'm not sure your figures are accurate. Also there's nothing to suggest we will make Tevez's deal permanent. You are, however, right to point out that we have payments to make on the players signed last summer.

Averaged out since the Glazers came in we've spent no more than £9m net, probably less. So I'd guess that we'll spend a similar amount this time around. Pique's gone, and assuming we shift one of the likes of Mikkey, Saha, O'Shea then we'll have around £10m coming in, let's say around £6m going out for Nani/Anderson/Tevez (an educated guess this), so I'd be guessing we'll spend around £13-14m.

Unless of course you believe the Glazers's promises of 2005 that they were going to give Fergie £25m a year and another £25m every few years for a superstar.

In which case we'll be splurging in the region of £100m. Can't wait.

EDIT: Of course I'm assuming that Ronaldo is staying.

I'm sixteen and gullable and even I didn't believe it but did they think that anyone would believe that they'd give us that much?

Devil_forever · 8th July 2008, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Spoonov

That's spot on. And Tevez will be an extra £10m not £20m. They've spent fuck all. . .and should be thankful to Fergie.

Why is that, if I'm not mistaken tevez cost two installemts of 5 mill plus around 18 mill to make his deal permanent.

Spoonatov · 8th July 2008, 16:08

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

Why is that, if I'm not mistaken tevez cost two installemts of 5 mill plus around 18 mill to make his deal permanent.

That was media speculation. I think Gill said it in a Times interview. So it'll work out to £20m, if we bother to go ahead with the deal.

Still think Glazers would love to cash in on Ronaldo.

rimaldo · 8th July 2008, 16:08

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we have £2.50, half a packet of pork scratchins and a can of Iron Brew left in the kitty.

excellent. the £2.50 can be used to buy windass from Hull and the scratchings and irn bru can be his signing on fee.

Rahul · 8th July 2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by kinkster

we have £2.50, half a packet of pork scratchins and a can of Iron Brew left in the kitty.

we could buy Kuyt 6 times

UnitedRoadRed · 8th July 2008, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

Why is that, if I'm not mistaken tevez cost two installemts of 5 mill plus around 18 mill to make his deal permanent.

Tevez isn't "ours" yet. The second installment is due this summer and who knows when the £10-20m extra (depending upon what you read) is due? That will probably be due next summer as part of the deal, we just have first refusal and need to signal our intent to buy by a given date to trigger it.

Bilbo · 8th July 2008, 16:11

Wouldn't be overly bothered if we didn't sign anyone at all this summer. Keeping the squad together is key.

esmufc07 · 8th July 2008, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Spoonov

That was media speculation. I think Gill said it in a Times interview. So it'll work out to £20m, if we bother to go ahead with the deal.

Still think Glazers would love to cash in on Ronaldo.

I don't think they would. Most of the money recieved from the transfer would go into Fergie's budget I'm sure. Add to that Ronaldo must bring in a hell of a lot of money as he is one of the few players around the world who have the capabiltiy to that, hence why Madrid want him so much. (I think I remember reading somewhere Ronaldo could make Madrid as much as £500m in 10 years)

Devil_forever · 8th July 2008, 16:12

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Originally Posted by Spoonov

That was media speculation. I think Gill said it in a Times interview. So it'll work out to £20m, if we bother to go ahead with the deal.

Still think Glazers would love to cash in on Ronaldo.

Can you find the link for that spooney?, do you really think that MSI will let their prized asset go for only £20 mill when there was soo much other interest for him?

esmufc07 · 8th July 2008, 16:14

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

Can you find the link for that spooney?, do you really think that MSI will let their pprized asset go for only £20 mill when there was soo much other interest for him?

The £10m we paid them over 2 seasons to loan him would have made th transfer fee go down I'm sure. I'd say to buy him outright would cost us £25m.

talking robot · 8th July 2008, 16:14

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Originally Posted by Spoonov

Still think Glazers would love to cash in on Ronaldo.

They might figure he is worth more if we keep him.

Bilbo · 8th July 2008, 16:15

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Originally Posted by Spoonov

That was media speculation. I think Gill said it in a Times interview. So it'll work out to £20m, if we bother to go ahead with the deal.

Still think Glazers would love to cash in on Ronaldo.

I was always dubious of the figures quoted for Tevez. Would have been 30m total which, much as I love him, is 10m too much.

Re: Ronaldo. I'm not so sure that they would cash in. I suppose this could all be a very clever way of getting best price from a desperate Madrid, whilst letting the media destroy his reputation with our fans, but I doubt it.

Devil_forever · 8th July 2008, 16:15

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

The £10m we paid them over 2 seasons to loan him would have made th transfer fee go down I'm sure. I'd say to buy him outright would cost us £25m.

That's a combined fee of £35 mill for tevez

esmufc07 · 8th July 2008, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

That's a combined fee of £35 mill for tevez

He's worth every penny

He'll show all you cnuts who are doubting him just how good he is this year now he has had his first summers rest in god knows how long.

Devil_forever · 8th July 2008, 16:19

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

He's worth every penny

He'll show all you cnuts who are doubting him just how good he is this year now he has had his first summers rest in god knows how long.

But then why at the start of the season were people saying that he wasn't match fit? now the excuse is that he's worn out. Anyway we'll see how he does next season, if you think that he's worth anywhere near £35 mill after having the season he's had for us, then you're easy to please.

manxmanc · 8th July 2008, 16:19

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(I think I remember reading somewhere Ronaldo could make Madrid as much as £500m in 10 years)

Thats because madrid would get a percentage of his image rights, i.e every nike deal he makes/every advert he does they get a cunt.

Spoonatov · 8th July 2008, 16:21

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

I don't think they would. Most of the money recieved from the transfer would go into Fergie's budget I'm sure. Add to that Ronaldo must bring in a hell of a lot of money as he is one of the few players around the world who have the capabiltiy to that, hence why Madrid want him so much. (I think I remember reading somewhere Ronaldo could make Madrid as much as £500m in 10 years)

Again, that's bollocks, and I've touched on it in the Ronaldo thread. There is no way the figures add up. Just look at Real's revenue pre and post Beckham. And also look at our during Ronaldo's time and before. The revenue and profits haven;t changed much. . .well, they have thanks to gate receipts and kit sponsorship. I think most of you lot are gullible. Real probably only mentioned those figures to get a loan. Most of the revenue is created via gate receipts, sponsorship and TV revenue. Merchandising is minuscule. Relatively speaking, of course. So, Ronaldo will never be worth that much off pitch. And anyone who believes so is clearly on drugs. Real are posturing. They think buying the biggest name from the biggest club in the world, makes them bigger than J-Lo's arse.

If we got a £100m offer, the Glazers would bite their hands off. You can go a long way with that type of cash. First of all, less than half of it would for pay for a new South Stand. . .imagine the extra revenue.

Devil_forever · 8th July 2008, 16:22

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Thats because madrid would get a percentage of his image rights, i.e every nike deal he makes/every advert he does they get a cunt.

We get raped by the deal we have with nike!!! they give us £30 mill per year and then we see nothing else but i guess united wanted a guarenteed source of income.

Canuckred64 · 8th July 2008, 16:25

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It probably isn't as much as some

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