Paul Scholes

Davo · 1st July 2004, 13:20

Is it time to get rid?

Lets face it, he's not getting any younger and he's likely to prove to be a problem this season re his position. You haven't got a fully firing Keane to cover for him in a 4-4-2, and the signings of Smith and Saha suggest 4-5-1 is no longer the favourite formation.

You could still raise about 10m for him, but if you leave it much longer his value will plummet.

He's showed time and again that he can't hack it at the top level,and is little more than a flat track bully...

Plus he looks like a ginger milk bottle, and is crap in terms of merchandise cash...

Do you all agree?

1st July 2004, 13:23

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Originally Posted by Davo

Do you all agree?

No, feck off!

dangercat · 1st July 2004, 13:25

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Originally Posted by Davo

Is it time to get rid?

Lets face it, he's not getting any younger and he's likely to prove to be a problem this season re his position. You haven't got a fully firing Keane to cover for him in a 4-4-2, and the signings of Smith and Saha suggest 4-5-1 is no longer the favourite formation.

You could still raise about 10m for him, but if you leave it much longer his value will plummet.

He's showed time and again that he can't hack it at the top level,and is little more than a flat track bully...

Plus he looks like a ginger milk bottle, and is crap in terms of merchandise cash...

Do you all agree?

r u nuts, look at the way we played when he was injured couldn't even score goals......no scholes=no creativity

An Extremely Boring Man · 1st July 2004, 13:25

What a mong suggestion

Still thinking of a name · 1st July 2004, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davo

Is it time to get rid?

Lets face it, he's not getting any younger and he's likely to prove to be a problem this season re his position. You haven't got a fully firing Keane to cover for him in a 4-4-2, and the signings of Smith and Saha suggest 4-5-1 is no longer the favourite formation.

You could still raise about 10m for him, but if you leave it much longer his value will plummet.

He's showed time and again that he can't hack it at the top level,and is little more than a flat track bully...

Plus he looks like a ginger milk bottle, and is crap in terms of merchandise cash...

Do you all agree?

Even if this were a serious post and there was some reason to get rid of Scholes from our perspective (there really isn't, sorry) then I don't think we would. Scholes isn't the kind of player to like moving around, he's a family man who keeps a low profile. Sure, if Oldham had the money I'm sure he'd move if United really really wanted rid... But no, I can't really see him leaving the club before he retires to be honest. Same with Giggs.

Btw, he doesn't create problems for the formation. He adds new dimensions and possibilities. A Houllier-like manager would have seen this as a problem, but Fergie sure does not.

An Extremely Boring Man · 1st July 2004, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Davo

He's showed time and again that he can't hack it at the top level,and is little more than a flat track bully...

This is probably your worst attempt of a wind up to date, Davo

Stanley Road · 1st July 2004, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davo

Is it time to get rid?

Lets face it, he's not getting any younger and he's likely to prove to be a problem this season re his position. You haven't got a fully firing Keane to cover for him in a 4-4-2, and the signings of Smith and Saha suggest 4-5-1 is no longer the favourite formation.

You could still raise about 10m for him, but if you leave it much longer his value will plummet.

He's showed time and again that he can't hack it at the top level,and is little more than a flat track bully...

Plus he looks like a ginger milk bottle, and is crap in terms of merchandise cash...

Do you all agree?

I Agree

A1Dan · 1st July 2004, 13:27

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Originally Posted by Davo

Is it time to get rid?

Lets face it, he's not getting any younger and he's likely to prove to be a problem this season re his position.....He's little more than a flat track bully...

Plus he looks like a ginger milk bottle, and is crap in terms of merchandise cash...

Do you all agree?

Not bad for a first draft of your autobiography, but otherwise the post of a dull man during a dull closed season.

Davo · 1st July 2004, 13:27

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Originally Posted by dangercat

r u nuts, look at the way we played when he was injured couldn't even score goals......no scholes=no creativity

You've got Ronaldo now...you couldn't line up with a midfield of him, Giggs, Scholes and either a failing Keane or some rubbish pretender like Fletcher or Djemba

soccerbest · 1st July 2004, 13:28

whta a fucking stupid suggestion.

1st July 2004, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Davo

You've got Ronaldo now...you couldn't line up with a midfield of him, Giggs, Scholes and either a failing Keane or some rubbish pretender like Fletcher or Djemba

You can if you buy a decent bloody centrak midfielder!

Davo · 1st July 2004, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Still thinking of a name

Scholes isn't the kind of player to like moving around, he's a family man who keeps a low profile. .

.

Yeah that might be a problem...

But if you refuse to play him he'll evertually leave his parents house and move elsewhere

bazalini · 1st July 2004, 13:29

100% agree Divo.

Scholes and the Niville sisters need to be shown the door.

Without Man Utd they would be nothing. Nothing. The bastards were lucky to be in quality squads which pulled along. Look at Beckham, another wanker who used Man Utd to further his modelling career. Where is he now - a washed up footballer who never had talent. Nedved, Del Peiro, Pires, Figo, Zidane, these guys walk on a different planet then Senior Beckham. If I was Pepsi or Adidas I woould super impose him in their ads so no more harm can be done

there is the Door - Now Fuck off with ya's

Forza Viola · 1st July 2004, 13:31

If you ignore the daft questions about Scholes' ability Davo does have a point. There is no position for Scholes if we assume Fergie has any cogent plan for building a team. Keane can't carry Scholes anymore, especially not if we deploy Ronaldo in the midfield as well. Assuming Fergie is returning to a flat four in the middle and two upfront there is no role for Scholes in the team.

Scholes remains our best player, but Fergie is doing his utmost to marginalise him... on that basis we may as well cash in while he is still a valuable asset.

Still thinking of a name · 1st July 2004, 13:32

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Originally Posted by An Extremely Boring Man

This is probably your worst attempt of a wind up to date, Davo

Unfortunately, there is a sliver of truth in his statement Scholes hasn't really done it at the top level.

For me thats A) For England and B) CL

For A) Its certainly true. 3 years without a goal and not playing anywhere near his best stuff and B) CL - For a midfielder who scores a lot of goals domestically, he doesn't score too many in Europe. I believe this is down to his playing style. He is great at exploiting defensive positional mistakes and moving late into the box, but of course playing against top quality opponents means that there are a lot less mistakes to exploit. He's never looked out of place, but he's never destroyed a team either, unlike the PL. Over the last 2 years, he's scored more than 1 goal in the same game a number of times and literally destroyed teams - Not in europe.

MPTutd · 1st July 2004, 13:32

What Davo is trying to say is that IF (and a bloody big one in my book) we have him on the bench, then its going to look even worse for his beloved Liverpool as we have a proven world class player on our bench whereas Liverpool have Diouf, Cheyrou, Diao and Biscan on theirs.

kf · 1st July 2004, 13:33

Feck off Davo.

Nate · 1st July 2004, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Forza Viola

If you ignore the daft questions about Scholes' ability Davo does have a point

I reckon if you sell him he will want to come to us.

We don't want him though, not good enough.

I'd rather we keep Bruno.

bazalini · 1st July 2004, 13:34

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Originally Posted by MPTutd

What Davo is trying to say is that IF (and a bloody big one in my book) we have him on the bench, then its going to look even worse for his beloved Liverpool as we have a proven world class player on our bench whereas Liverpool have Diouf, Cheyrou, Diao and Biscan on theirs.

Forlon, Neville Phil, Bellion & Djemba Djemba make some bench while your at it.

Plechazunga · 1st July 2004, 13:34

dude r u fckin gotta be kidding Schls a muthafckin leg end hez r best CM/AM/linkman/in-da-hole/insId 4ward we got dude Chimpionship Minger sez he is da best so fck u scouz u got ** own ded wud

Davo · 1st July 2004, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Stanley Road

I Agree

Glad some of you know your football

kf · 1st July 2004, 13:36

At least Scholesy hasn't had an arm grafted on.

Still thinking of a name · 1st July 2004, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Plechazunga

dude r u fckin gotta be kidding Schls a muthafckin leg end hez r best CM/AM/linkman/in-da-hole/insId 4ward we got dude Chimpionship Minger sez he is da best so fck u scouz u got ** own ded wud

Totally! ..What?

soccerbest · 1st July 2004, 13:36

Oh dear, you people are fucking mad to even think about selling Scholes.

Davo · 1st July 2004, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Forza Viola

If you ignore the daft questions about Scholes' ability Davo does have a point. There is no position for Scholes if we assume Fergie has any cogent plan for building a team. Keane can't carry Scholes anymore, especially not if we deploy Ronaldo in the midfield as well. Assuming Fergie is returning to a flat four in the middle and two upfront there is no role for Scholes in the team.

Scholes remains our best player, but Fergie is doing his utmost to marginalise him... on that basis we may as well cash in while he is still a valuable asset.

You're spot on, apart from the last paragraph....which is nonsense

Scholes = a ginger Joe Cole

Who can't dribble

Number7 · 1st July 2004, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Nate

I reckon if you sell him he will want to come to us.

We don't want him though, not good enough.

I'd rather we keep Bruno.

And Davo has just been pipped to the worst wind up,

bazalini · 1st July 2004, 13:38

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Originally Posted by soccerbest

Oh dear, you people are fucking mad to even think about selling Scholes.

Wise up.

The same was said about Cole at the time.

Scholes has no place in this Man Utd team. Time we sold him and a few other dead wood as well.

An Extremely Boring Man · 1st July 2004, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Still thinking of a name

Unfortunately, there is a sliver of truth in his statement Scholes hasn't really done it at the top level.

For me thats A) For England and B) CL

For A) Its certainly true. 3 years without a goal and not playing anywhere near his best stuff and B) CL - For a midfielder who scores a lot of goals domestically, he doesn't score too many in Europe. I believe this is down to his playing style. He is great at exploiting defensive positional mistakes and moving late into the box, but of course playing against top quality opponents means that there are a lot less mistakes to exploit. He's never looked out of place, but he's never destroyed a team either, unlike the PL. Over the last 2 years, he's scored more than 1 goal in the same game a number of times and literally destroyed teams - Not in europe.

WHat bollox. He's been as good in Europe as his team mates.

20 goals in 79 European starts. That's only slightly less per game than his league less than his league record, which is not surprising, seeing as it is scored fewer goals in Europe than domestically.

Mozza · 1st July 2004, 13:39

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

You can if you buy a decent bloody centrak midfielder!

If we bought a defensive mdifelder your probably right.

Davo · 1st July 2004, 13:40

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Originally Posted by MPTutd

What Davo is trying to say is that IF (and a bloody big one in my book) we have him on the bench, then its going to look even worse for his beloved Liverpool as we have a proven world class player on our bench whereas Liverpool have Diouf, Cheyrou, Diao and Biscan on theirs.

You got that from my opening post?

You're a dunce mate...you wear a big hat with a big D on it and face the corner

Dunce

bazalini · 1st July 2004, 13:41

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Originally Posted by An Extremely Boring Man

WHat bollox. He's been as good in Europe as his team mates.
.

So he has being a failure.

He is a creative midfielder and hasn't done fuck all. He is a failure on the big stage.

We keep him, we will continue to go out in quater finals.

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Davo Still waiting for my team to make a title challenge. Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: It's Ours For Keeps Posts: 551,802	Paul Scholes Is it time to get rid? Lets face it, he's not getting any younger and he's likely to prove to be a problem this season re his position. You haven't got a fully firing Keane to cover for him in a 4-4-2, and the signings of Smith and Saha suggest 4-5-1 is no longer the favourite formation. You could still raise about 10m for him, but if you leave it much longer his value will plummet. He's showed time and again that he can't hack it at the top level,and is little more than a flat track bully... Plus he looks like a ginger milk bottle, and is crap in terms of merchandise cash... Do you all agree?

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An Extremely Boring Man Retired 39,9999 not out Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: London / Oxford Posts: 39,959	What a mong suggestion

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soccerbest First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: At my home Posts: 6,565	whta a fucking stupid suggestion.

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bazalini Join Date: May 2000 Location: President "Bring Back Charlie", "Clayton Blackmore" + "Neil Thomson" Fan clubs Posts: 12,704	100% agree Divo. Scholes and the Niville sisters need to be shown the door. Without Man Utd they would be nothing. Nothing. The bastards were lucky to be in quality squads which pulled along. Look at Beckham, another wanker who used Man Utd to further his modelling career. Where is he now - a washed up footballer who never had talent. Nedved, Del Peiro, Pires, Figo, Zidane, these guys walk on a different planet then Senior Beckham. If I was Pepsi or Adidas I woould super impose him in their ads so no more harm can be done there is the Door - Now Fuck off with ya's

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Forza Viola Youth Team Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 303	If you ignore the daft questions about Scholes' ability Davo does have a point. There is no position for Scholes if we assume Fergie has any cogent plan for building a team. Keane can't carry Scholes anymore, especially not if we deploy Ronaldo in the midfield as well. Assuming Fergie is returning to a flat four in the middle and two upfront there is no role for Scholes in the team. Scholes remains our best player, but Fergie is doing his utmost to marginalise him... on that basis we may as well cash in while he is still a valuable asset.

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MPTutd Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London Posts: 3,079	What Davo is trying to say is that IF (and a bloody big one in my book) we have him on the bench, then its going to look even worse for his beloved Liverpool as we have a proven world class player on our bench whereas Liverpool have Diouf, Cheyrou, Diao and Biscan on theirs.

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kf First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 5,045	Feck off Davo.

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Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint and chairs are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: My enthusiasm is the same. I love this club. It is not about brochures. Posts: 49,235	dude r u fckin gotta be kidding Schls a muthafckin leg end hez r best CM/AM/linkman/in-da-hole/insId 4ward we got dude Chimpionship Minger sez he is da best so fck u scouz u got ** own ded wud

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kf First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 5,045	At least Scholesy hasn't had an arm grafted on.

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soccerbest First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: At my home Posts: 6,565	Oh dear, you people are fucking mad to even think about selling Scholes.