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Old 1st July 2004, 13:48   #41 (permalink)
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Who let this idiot on?
I dispair...

The lack of aprecciation of some of our best players on here is frightening!
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:50   #42 (permalink)
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I dispair...

The lack of aprecciation of some of our best players on here is frightening!
Doubt any of them have actually been to OT.

It is Redcafe afterall.
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And won us the matches?
Against the 'Milans' he got us the equiliser which secured our semi-final spot in 1999...
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:50   #44 (permalink)
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Who the fuck are you to tell me to kuck off.

Scholes is a failure. He is nowhere near the player he used to be. He has nothing to offer this Man Utd team only disfunction and moving other players out of position.

Get rid of him and a few daychasers like you as well.
oh dear, some of you moaners here about every players who are getting old must be sold is pathetic.
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:50   #45 (permalink)
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Who let this idiot on?
I believe it was a measure to ensure some objective opinion comes onto the forum, instead of all the rose tinted glasses posts about our players and how great they all are, even if they are not.

Its called a debate. You need more than 1 argument for this, we can't all agree.
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:51   #46 (permalink)
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IMO, if we get Scholes back in midfield he will improve but we do need to sign a world class creative midfielder. I think fergie has totally gone OTT on DM's and defenders, we also need either a right or left sided midfielder so Ronaldo can play on the opposite side and a least put Giggs under some pressure for his place in the team.
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I believe it was a measure to ensure some objective opinion comes onto the forum.
You're talking rubbish though
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:52   #48 (permalink)
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Against the 'Milans' he got us the equiliser which secured our semi-final spot in 1999...
Great. So we can count on bringing on Paul Scholes 1999 if we need a goal against Milan.
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:54   #49 (permalink)
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You're talking rubbish though
I'm stating my opinion - Its up to you to disprove it, which you have done very well. I still don't believe he has ever "done it" at the top level, however.
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Doubt any of them have actually been to OT.

It is Redcafe afterall.

I'm fed up hearing this. Sick in the teeth in fact. I live in Ireland and a regular fan at Man Utd. I do not adhere to the lets get behind everyone because it is the norm, but if I see someone play shit I let them know.

In Madrid or Milan or Munich fans can critise players and who is more successful. Even Liverpool fans are quick to turn against players. A players loyalty or skill level is not based on what has being produced in recent years but in recent matches.

Now in my view for Man Utd to win anything this season we need to look beyond Scholes who failed to deliver for Man Utd last season.
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Great. So we can count on bringing on Paul Scholes 1999 if we need a goal against Milan.
Personally, I'd just bring on Paul Scholes, the player who's been great for us for the last decade.
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Old 1st July 2004, 13:56   #52 (permalink)
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gone fishin' be back in a few.
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Great. So we can count on bringing on Paul Scholes 1999 if we need a goal against Milan.
He's argued his point.

Proved you wrong, about Scholes against the bigger European clubs.

Get over it.
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You lot are too sentimental..

And too biased
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I'm stating my opinion - Its up to you to disprove it, which you have done very well. I still don't believe he has ever "done it" at the top level, however.


Has played well against some of the best teams in Europe for almost a decade. The CL is the highest level of football there is.
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I'm fed up hearing this. Sick in the teeth in fact. I live in Ireland and a regular fan at Man Utd. I do not adhere to the lets get behind everyone because it is the norm, but if I see someone play shit I let them know.

In Madrid or Milan or Munich fans can critise players and who is more successful. Even Liverpool fans are quick to turn against players. A players loyalty or skill level is not based on what has being produced in recent years but in recent matches.

Now in my view for Man Utd to win anything this season we need to look beyond Scholes who failed to deliver for Man Utd last season.
I don't give a fuck.
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I don't give a fuck.
You only give a fuck if a fan is critical and not when a player is shit.

I support 11 players and a team, not a fucking circus of fans.
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You lot are too sentimental..

And too biased
sell Owen and Gerrard then.
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Now in my view for Man Utd to win anything this season we need to look beyond Scholes who failed to deliver for Man Utd last season.
Scholes was out injured for half the season, and stuck on the left wing for half the games he actually played - and he still managed to score 15 goals!

Look at the Scholes from the 2002/03 season. IMO his best season ever for us. He was sensational!
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He's argued his point.

Proved you wrong, about Scholes against the bigger European clubs.

Get over it.
No no - I suggest you "get over it". Read my response to him - I said he's proved my points wrong, but I still don't feel his tipped the top of the tree. Thats my opinion of which I am entitled to.
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You lot are too sentimental..

And too biased
And you are too much of a wind up

or

clueless
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You only give a fuck if a fan is critical and not when a player is shit.

I support 11 players and a team, not a fucking circus of fans.
Is there any United players that is actually worthy of playing for us?
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sell Owen and Gerrard then.
They're both young and have years of football ahead of them...

Totally different from the aging Scholes...if you're going to debate, do it sensibly
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No no - I suggest you "get over it". Read my response to him - I said he's proved my points wrong, but I still don't feel his tipped the top of the tree. Thats my opinion of which I am entitled to.
Which players have "tipped the top of the tree"?
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I'm bored..so pick a manc player, preferably not a real rubbish one like Forlan or Fletcher, and I'll go and slag him off in the manc forum...

Football only posters will pile in and call me a cnut and we can all laugh at the spastics...

Its foolproof
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Scholes was out injured for half the season, and stuck on the left wing for half the games he actually played - and he still managed to score 15 goals!

Look at the Scholes from the 2002/03 season. IMO his best season ever for us. He was sensational!
The whole team bar Ronaldo were underpar last season.

Reckon we sell the lot them.

Being objective afterall.
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And you are too much of a wind up

or

clueless
You're a bit simple when it comes to Man U. You think they'll win the league every year...that they've got all the best players blah blah

You can't see the obvious failings of someone like Scholes...it limits your ability to understand the game
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sell Owen and Gerrard then.
Nobody wants Owen.....

So they can't get rid of him.

And Gerrard'll leave sooner than later.
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You're a bit simple when it comes to Man U. You think they'll win the league every year...that they've got all the best players blah blah

You can't see the obvious failings of someone like Scholes...it limits your ability to understand the game
I honestly think I have a greater understanding of the game than you.

You're on an obvious wind-up here.

I obviously don't think we've got all the best players, but in Scholes I believe we've got a great player.
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And won us the matches?
In the case of Inter - yes
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The whole team bar Ronaldo were underpar last season.

Reckon we sell the lot them.

Being objective afterall.

That is the spirit Giggzy. However Saha, Keane, Silvestre, Carroll, Howard, RVN, Giggs, Fortune, O'Shea, even Phil Neville produced the stuff I would expect from them.

Scholes did not and does not look like he will, given we have stronger players in his positions.

Sell him and move on
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