Possebon

umair · 17th August 2008, 18:16

Will be a star, infact he is ready now..plz no o'shea fergie. Creates space like scholes and can shoot like a bullet. Was good today. Didnt seem fazed.

Godfather · 17th August 2008, 18:17

He was pretty good today. I'm more convinced that Rafael will become a star.

Ekeke · 17th August 2008, 18:18

Not a defensive player. O'Shea is. Not hard to work out - Scholes needs someone next to him who can do the majority of the midfield defensive work and that isnt Rodrigo, yet.

amolbhatia100 · 17th August 2008, 18:18

Looked good. Thought Oshea offered absolutely nothing.

Name Changed · 17th August 2008, 18:18

He did ok, that's all.

Godfather · 17th August 2008, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekeke

Not a defensive player. O'Shea is. Not hard to work out - Scholes needs someone next to him who can do the majority of the midfield defensive work and that isnt Rodrigo, yet.

OShea neither

Ballache · 17th August 2008, 18:19

he was very good...reminds me of carrick.

Dippersripper · 17th August 2008, 18:19

Looked decent, nothing more.

RedKaos · 17th August 2008, 18:19

Looks like Hargreaves' stoner brother.

Also looks like he'll be a million times more useful than o'shea in the midfield.

loki · 17th August 2008, 18:19

Didnt seem too bothered by the pressure. The best bit he showed was how easily and confidently he held the ball in the corner until the Newcastle player conceded the throw for us, he looked in complete control and balance for the whole thing, something I rarely see from any player.

Red Norse · 17th August 2008, 18:20

Didn't look out of place at all, quite chuffed how easily he took to the level. More to come I'm sure.

RapidRed · 17th August 2008, 18:20

Aye, he was pretty good. Even in the little time he had, one thing was evident: the boy can fucking pass.

Don't see how O'Shea can be ahead of him in the midfield pecking order.

FlawlessThaw · 17th August 2008, 18:21

I was impressed by him. Decided that may be the muppets are right in saying he should be ahead of O'Shea in the pecking order.

rooney__10 · 17th August 2008, 18:21

looked composed on the ball which is always good. I like to see a bit more aggresion in his play when defending. Early to say but he does have carricks style, we will have to see how he progresses and how many games he can get under his belt.

notiboiboi · 17th August 2008, 18:21

Can pass and thats good **** to put him above o'shea in the pecking order for midfield...

iPete · 17th August 2008, 18:21

Reminded me of midfielders in the 80's. Don't ask me why

Striker10 · 17th August 2008, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekeke

Not a defensive player. O'Shea is. Not hard to work out - Scholes needs someone next to him who can do the majority of the midfield defensive work and that isnt Rodrigo, yet.

And o'shea isn't a midfielder. He's a defender that happens to not be good enough to get in our best back four

Rodrigo did fine. Didn't give the ball away. It's never easy coming on as a sub, especially when it's 1-1 and both teams could still nick it. Obviously added to that there was more pressure on us to win the game AND it being your debut in competitive action

We don't know Rodrigos game fully yet so we cannot dismiss anything. Unfortunately people will be critical of Rodrigo saying he passes sideways BUT the point is when your struggling with width, its not easy to spray your passes.

Giggs comes inside as does fletcher, it's not always easy to pass the ball if the players don't make the runs

Elliott · 17th August 2008, 18:23

Will be a great player 2 years from now.

FlawlessThaw · 17th August 2008, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striker10

And o'shea isn't a midfielder. He's a defender that happens to not be good enough to get in our best back four

Rodrigo did fine. Didn't give the ball away. It's never easy coming on as a sub, especially when it's 1-1 and both teams could still nick it. Obviously added to that there was more pressure on us to win the game

We don't know Rodrigos game fully yet so we cannot dismiss anything. Unfortunately people will be critical of Rodrigo saying he passes sideways BUT the point is when your struggling with width, its not easy to spray your passes.

Giggs comes inside as does fletcher, it's not always easy to pass the ball if the players don't make the runs

Spot on. I felt Rafael should have been put on sooner and not for Campbell.

Mozza · 17th August 2008, 18:23

He's got fantastic control, no matter how the ball came to him it was dead and in position to pass perfectly and quickly which gives him time, he's got a great chance there's no doubt about that

sonymobby · 17th August 2008, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekeke

Not a defensive player. O'Shea is. Not hard to work out - Scholes needs someone next to him who can do the majority of the midfield defensive work and that isnt Rodrigo, yet.

On the other hand O'Shea can't keep the ball and do something good so...

Red Norse · 17th August 2008, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by RapidRed

Aye, he was pretty good. Even in the little time he had, one thing was evident: the boy can fucking pass.

Don't see how O'Shea can be ahead of him in the midfield pecking order.

That's because O'Shea clearly is better defensively and is vastly more experienced. Replacing Carrick with O'Shea was a no-brainer (and I hate it when he plays in midfield...)

Ekeke · 17th August 2008, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godfather

OShea neither

Really? He did okay at left back. Must have been the goalkeeper in him, right? Cant be that he's a defender.

I'm not saying he's great. He's pretty poor in the middle of midfield, but Rodrigo doesnt have what it takes to play next to Scholes in a midfield 2 yet because neither one can take on the physical and defensive responsibility of the role. Rodrigo may do in the future, or he may be like Scholes himself and always rely on another to do it. But Carrick for example, is leagues ahead and Carrick's defensive ability is not much more than the minimum an attacking team like ours needs.

A midfield 3 of Fletcher, Scholes and Rodrigo would be fine though. But then we have our flank problem... Not that Fletcher solves it anyway.

Cantona07 · 17th August 2008, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonymobby

On the other hand O'Shea can't keep the ball and do something good so...

Did you forget his goal against L'pool two seasons ago.

Ekeke · 17th August 2008, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonymobby

On the other hand O'Shea can't keep the ball and do something good so...

Thats why Scholes was next to him. If Carrick had stayed on and Scholes went off it would have been Rodrigo coming on, I'm sure.

Striker10 · 17th August 2008, 18:27

There was a time I remember when Scholes was the one that held deep so there is no automatic excuse to put o'shea on just because scholes needs someone defensive by him.

There would have been no problem keeping scholes back and putting possebon or gibson or whoever ahead of him

people talk about experience but how many games we had like this with fletcher and oshea in the midfield. Granted today fletcher was fine, though he didn't offer brilliant width but bringing on o'shea was a backward step.

Giggsy PO · 17th August 2008, 18:28

Reminded me Iniesta. Don't ask why. Maybe because he barely loses the ball.

sonymobby · 17th August 2008, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantona07

Did you forget his goal against L'pool two seasons ago.

That was one touch anyway.

Dreaded · 17th August 2008, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteReDevil

Reminded me of midfielders in the 80's. Don't ask me why

The hair

Ekeke · 17th August 2008, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striker10

There was a time I remember when Scholes was the one that held deep so there is no automatic excuse to put o'shea on just because scholes needs someone defensive by him.

There would have been no problem keeping scholes back and putting possebon or gibson or whoever ahead of him

people talk about experience but how many games we had like this with fletcher and oshea in the midfield. Granted today fletcher was fine, though he didn't offer brilliant width but bringing on o'shea was a backward step.

There's a reason Scholes doesn't play defensive midfield and why his main-stay partners have been Roy Keane and Michael Carrick.

He is not a defensive player and never will be. O'Shea is.

In all partnerships, one player needs to cover the other's weakeness'. For Scholes thats purely defence related. Hence, John O'Shea.

Scholesy · 17th August 2008, 18:32

Looks pretty good however looks slow.

sonymobby · 17th August 2008, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekeke

Thats why Scholes was next to him. If Carrick had stayed on and Scholes went off it would have been Rodrigo coming on, I'm sure.

What? You can't compare O'Shea with Carrick. First of all, Carrick isn't useless on the ball.

KeyserSoze · 17th August 2008, 18:33

Looked neat and tidy, was not rushed and made time for himself on the ball.

Composed, decent cameo. Nothing more.

17th August 2008, 18:16	#1 (permalink)
umair Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 422	Possebon Will be a star, infact he is ready now..plz no o'shea fergie. Creates space like scholes and can shoot like a bullet. Was good today. Didnt seem fazed.

17th August 2008, 18:17	#2 (permalink)
Godfather Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 3,794	He was pretty good today. I'm more convinced that Rafael will become a star.

17th August 2008, 18:18	#3 (permalink)
Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,915	Not a defensive player. O'Shea is. Not hard to work out - Scholes needs someone next to him who can do the majority of the midfield defensive work and that isnt Rodrigo, yet.

17th August 2008, 18:18	#4 (permalink)
amolbhatia100 Has excellent taste in women Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: india Posts: 11,243	Looked good. Thought Oshea offered absolutely nothing.

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Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,533	He did ok, that's all.

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Ballache First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Botkyrka-Stockholms fattigaste Komun :( Posts: 6,275	he was very good...reminds me of carrick.

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Dippersripper Educating ignorant bastards about God to achieve a near-perfect world Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reason is an excuse for faith. Faith is everything. Please don't take, My Fletcher, Away..... Posts: 10,228	Looked decent, nothing more.

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RedKaos Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: South East Posts: 4,535	Looks like Hargreaves' stoner brother. Also looks like he'll be a million times more useful than o'shea in the midfield.

17th August 2008, 18:19	#10 (permalink)
loki Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gonna be real pissed if I get banned..........again Posts: 884	Didnt seem too bothered by the pressure. The best bit he showed was how easily and confidently he held the ball in the corner until the Newcastle player conceded the throw for us, he looked in complete control and balance for the whole thing, something I rarely see from any player.

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Red Norse Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: There's hope in hanging snore Posts: 800	Didn't look out of place at all, quite chuffed how easily he took to the level. More to come I'm sure.

17th August 2008, 18:20	#12 (permalink)
RapidRed Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,286	Aye, he was pretty good. Even in the little time he had, one thing was evident: the boy can fucking pass. Don't see how O'Shea can be ahead of him in the midfield pecking order.

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FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 10,545	I was impressed by him. Decided that may be the muppets are right in saying he should be ahead of O'Shea in the pecking order.

17th August 2008, 18:21	#14 (permalink)
rooney__10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,272	looked composed on the ball which is always good. I like to see a bit more aggresion in his play when defending. Early to say but he does have carricks style, we will have to see how he progresses and how many games he can get under his belt.

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notiboiboi Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,114	Can pass and thats good **** to put him above o'shea in the pecking order for midfield...

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iPete Previously: PeteReDevil Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: I....declare...BANKRUPTCYYYY!!! Posts: 1,323	Reminded me of midfielders in the 80's. Don't ask me why

17th August 2008, 18:23	#18 (permalink)
Elliott Likes Loan Stickies Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,846	Will be a great player 2 years from now.

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Mozza "Geek" Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Let Rooney be Rooney Posts: 16,745	He's got fantastic control, no matter how the ball came to him it was dead and in position to pass perfectly and quickly which gives him time, he's got a great chance there's no doubt about that

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Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,822	There was a time I remember when Scholes was the one that held deep so there is no automatic excuse to put o'shea on just because scholes needs someone defensive by him. There would have been no problem keeping scholes back and putting possebon or gibson or whoever ahead of him people talk about experience but how many games we had like this with fletcher and oshea in the midfield. Granted today fletcher was fine, though he didn't offer brilliant width but bringing on o'shea was a backward step.

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Giggsy PO First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shame on you Shane Vendrell. You little bastard! Posts: 9,770	Reminded me Iniesta. Don't ask why. Maybe because he barely loses the ball.

17th August 2008, 18:32	#31 (permalink)
Scholesy biggest idiotic gay in the village Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Village Posts: 4,004	Looks pretty good however looks slow.

17th August 2008, 18:33	#33 (permalink)
KeyserSoze First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Batigol Posts: 7,121	Looked neat and tidy, was not rushed and made time for himself on the ball. Composed, decent cameo. Nothing more.