Possebon

Striker10

we'll have to agree to disagree about oshea. He did ok but when you put him on for carrick, your losing a guy who can spread the play. Possebon, will make an impression this season because he's composed on the ball. We're all a little agitated but i'm off to watch mutv

Feed Me

This lad should have been on instead of fecking O"square pass"shea.

Kinky Melinky

From a distance Possebon and Rafael look feckin identical.

brophs

No way to tell after one game, but what today showed is-he has a chance. He looked neat and tidy, and very composed given it was his first game. He will get used to the pace of the game, and there's plenty more to come from him. As some have said, not sure he could play a 2 man midfield with Scholesy. Yet. But I'm hopeful he can train on. He looks a United player in waiting.

Kinky Melinky

I think the one thing that stood out to me was how much he looked like Silva

No in all seriousness, the one thing that stood out was that he looked very calm on the ball and more often than not made the right pass. Good signs

Red Dreams

you got it....he is Carrick's back up...just as Anderson is Scholes'...

Brwned

Anderson and Scholes are nothing alike.

Red Dreams

Possebon...when got the ball was always trying to look for an attacking option...very good ball control....no wonder SAF had him on the bench....

Red Dreams

I disagree......and so does SAF....

ecantona7

Brwned

Because he said he can be Scholes' successor? In the same way that Carrick is Keane's even though they are completely different players?

noodlehair

I don't really get all the raving at this point.

He's clearly very sound technically, and he knows how to make himself available, but he didn't actually do anything aside from play simple passes about, and when Newcastle had the ball they simply ran through him. That's not nearly enough to hold your own in a Premiership game.

He's got a chance maybe, but he's not ready

brophs

It was his first game. He didn't look out of his depth. Give him a chance,

ricardinho

didnt impress.

seanboy

Jaysus lads what are you expecting out of him. He's only a youngfella who played his first game today (well competitive anyway) I thought he did well considering.

Number7

Looks too fragile

Bit like Eagles was.

Striker10

and did o'shea impress? But I don't think that's the point. o'shea was functional but that was all. There is nothing to suggest replacing carrick with possebon we'd have been worse off. I can't even remember one o'shea tackle

Possebon did fine, and because we had no width it was always going to be hard for him. I think the point is a lot of people would rather we brought him on then o'shea because, he potentialy offers more attacking wise and today we needed a spark and o'shea replacing carrick who can be that, is not good enough when your pressing

Sure on occasions he might score or make a pass but it's rare. We're at a stage where we have mr versetile vs gibson, possebon - midfield players who want the chance to show they can do something

I think we have experience on the pitch, one or those two would have been better suited. I'd have gone for possebon as there is no question he is one of a number of promising youngsters we have - who importantly, don't seem to be fazed by big crowds or who we're playing

samabachan

He was good considering it was his first Premiership game but I certainly saw nothing extraordinary and not better than O'Shea yet. A lot of sideways passes and slowed down the game a bit.

Striker10

o'shea came on when we were dominating the game. Possebon came on when we weren't and attacking wise we did nothing in the second half. Giggs, who was a spark tired and so if your possebon who you gonna pass to flying down the wing?

Evra didn't do it much...brown didn't do it, fletcher isn't that type of player.

You can't pass it into space if people aren't running and if you do the supporters will blame him and think his passings shite, so it's ok to keep possession

honestly if he'd have been brought on in the first half, it would have been better for him and he would have had a better chance. God with 10 minutes to go even campbell went off injured. Rooney was labouring. The boy can't be expected to walk on water.

marcus agrippa

christ!

Pogue Mahone

A beacon of common sense, in a sea of mentalist bollox.

Thank you.

Striker10

pogue how did he slow down the game? likewise how did o'shea 'quicken' it....

the boy has no problem passing forwards as he's shown on occasions but you cannot tell me watching you saw the whole picture. How do you know the runs players were making were good?

How do you know Sir Alex didn't give him instructions to play it simple, keep the ball?...

there is no harm in people discussing this, calling it mentalist is a bit spasticated

brophs

That's probably true, but I feel, given a chance he can be a better player for us in CM than O'Shea. While he might not be completely ready yet, O'Shea is never going to improve beyond his current level of staggering mediocrity-Possebon might given the opportunity.

Number7

He looks fragile at prem level atm

Can't see how that can be argued with. Look at his frame, he's tiny and a bit weedy atm compared to a lot of other players... obviously down to age, but still relevent to him being any good for our first team now.

samabachan

Do you wear Possebon pyjamas at night? I'm not slighting the boy, he's only 19 and O'Shea once again did okay in CM. With his experience and physique he's bound to be a better player.

Pogue Mahone

More sense.

I agree. He could potentially be better than O'Shea. But it's early days. So O'Shea remains ahead of him in the pecking order.

Hopefully he can develop his game with a decent run in the Carling Cup, some FA Cup games and a few minutes here and there.

But he's not ready to be thrown in at the deep end. Not yet.

Striker10

he's only 19? if your good enough your old enough. the fact possebon didn't get a tackle in is irrelent for the simple fact neither did o'shea.

people like you resort to 'fanboy bollocks', but if it was a manchester lad or british maybe you'd not be so anal to award praise

the lad is good enough in a lot of aspects. We have experience all over the field. I think at home we have a reason to be confident. O'shea in the centre of midfield? How can you go from carrick to o'shea?

he's bound to be a better player is a bad argument.

I always thought we were proud and almost excited about youngsters being given a chance but now it seems because we're signing portugese and brazilians everyones lost their nerve

Brwned

Nobody said O'Shea quickened it, but Rodrigo did slow the game down. Just watch the game and see. He didn't try and move the ball on wuickly much at all and most of his passes were backwards. That's not a criticism, it's just what happened.

He has the ability to play great passes but he'll need time to settle in first to do that, getting used to other players' movements and the pace of the game etc.

Striker10

players get tired and don't make the runs. If you watch the first half and second you'll notice that. you'll also notice we slowed down before rodrigo came on. if players aren't bombing forward, it restricts your choices.

Again, we also don't know the instructions he was given....

Look at how the boy plays. He really don't look scared to me and having seen a bit of him, I really don't think he's scared to pass forward.

People aren't saying he should play every game, some people are saying he should have come on for carrick at home to newcastle and there is a difference.

Sure we might have lost it, we might have won it. I don't remember o'shea who's obviously a better player then him doing much and I think some give too much credit to newcastles midfield

additionally, carrick isn't always the quickest player either, but he's good at what he does. Even scholes at times slows down the play. It's not a flaw, not if your retaining possession