Possebon

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Pogue Mahone

Eh? Since when are United players encouraged not to play the ball to feet?

Striker10

piss off you spastic

someone hysterical would type in caps (just so you know)....

get an education or maybe you want to explain why o'shea is a better player....

Brwned

I'm sure he means that Rodrigo likes to hold on to the ball.

brophs

I was saying(albeit none too articulately), that he likes to hold on to the ball too long, ie at his feet.

Pogue Mahone

Ah, ok. I agree then.

samabachan

Yes. I'm the spastic. O'Shea is diabolical and Possebon is the secong coming of Evra who is the second coming of Christ.

marcus agrippa

tbf, o'Shea is diabolical when played in central midfield.

lumberingly so.

Striker10

see, that's not what people are saying at all. Why don't you learn to read? We're talking about one game here not for the whole campaign but clearly you are aware of that having read every argument

samabachan

Was he diabolical today? Was he diabolical when playing with Giggs at the end of 05-06?

Sultan

Very composed and technically very clever. Has a knack of creating space, and doing the simple things right. He's a future star in the making, no doubt about that.

I can see him doing well in a three man midfield at this moment in time, until he gains experience at top level.

Striker10

Darren fletcher has how many appearances? Someone dare tell us he's built like a tank.........

people might say - ohh but he's mainly played on the wing not centre. Well, when he has played centre - people have said he looked better

people said with Nani. Oh he's too slim. He takes off his top and they shut up.

I can tell you first time I saw eagles he was dreadful. He had a degree of talent but his problem was he played like a fan. It went to his head, he was too giddy and later on didn't play like he believed in himself

Possebon is nothing like eagles in terms of frame. It's true he needs to get stuck in more, but that will come and let's not forget it's psychical in training so it's not like he can escape

He has the mentality and as a United fan it's good to watch a player that you have faith in. He did nothing exceptional but what he showed was he can do a job and if he played against pompy I'd be delighted as clearly we've players dropping like flys at the minute

samabachan

For once you are correct. Unfortunately for him O'Shea is the master of "doing a job" and his job is more important, namely breaking up attacks and passing the ball quickly to Scholes. Possebon is much more of a ball player.

brophs

One point I reckon is important is those who say he isn't physically up to it yet, and so shouldn't play. Well, simply getting physically bigger isn't going to help him. He needs to play to learn how to use that increased physicality, and to get the confidence that comes with knowing you can hold your own in one of the, if not the, most physical league in the world.

Striker10

how many attacks did o'shea break up today....

possebon is a 'box to box' or has been described as. he does get stuck in. I would suggest the reason he didn't apart from being composed (ie not rash in the tackle) is it's not always easy to get into the tempo of the game and sometimes it passes you by like that. It was actually a fluid game, rather then crunching tackles going in all over the shop

samabachan

I don't know because I didn't count. I'd wager he did a lot more than Possebon though. Besides, he's so fucking big, him just standing in a decent position can restrict the attacking team's options.

Striker10

but he would as he was on the pitch 30+ minutes more then possebon. O'sheas no giant. It's a trick of the television

Number7

I must have been watching a different game to everyone this afternoon. I didn't see this Possebon do anything worthwhile...neither did I see our entire team do anything worthwhile in the 2nd half. They were all very rusty, which is to be expected having 4 or 5 starters out and having a load of players who have hardly played with each other, doing so.

We were frustrated, thus kept fouling Newcastle players all over the field.

Not our greatest day, but things will likely get better

And for record...we started to play bad the moment Carrick went off the field.... we did practically nothing after he went off after we scored.

marcus agrippa

don't go back two seasons ago to make your point.

that's just silly.

we lost a lot when he came on in place of Carrick, and that's a fact.

samabachan

O'Shea's 6'4" and so built that Yakubu literally bounced off him last season. What the fuck are you talking about? Anyway, it's clear you think O'Shea's shit and Possebon's brilliant. I think O'Shea's decent and Possebon's got the potential to be very good whilst currently not being experienced enough to actually be better than O'Shea. Nothing I say will change your mind and I'm right since Fergie believes the same as me so you're not going to change mine. Let's leave it at that.

Ekeke

He doest really get stuck in. He's more likely to sit back and pick up loose passes like Carrick. Only, he's obviously less positionally assured and he's only done it against reserve team level so far.

Its one thing to win the ball a decent amount of time against reserves, another thing winning the ball a decent amount of times against some of the first team players at premiership clubs. He has a long way to go in that respect.

samabachan

Correct. O'Shea's a very limited midfielder but he's good at what he does. Possebon's not limited but not yet very good at what he does.

032Devil

Agreed.

Without Scholes he would have struggled. His potiioning needs to improve.

Future potential though. Should be a decent player is a few seasons.

marcus agrippa

the fact is, O'Shea doesn't offer very much in central midfield. i'd even go so far as to say he limits Scholes.

at times, he was a third centre half today. i mean, i'm all for having a defensive midfielder (debatable today given the 'ambition' of the barcodes), but it go ridiculous.

his passing is terrible, and we need a continuity player in the middle (which is why i like Carrick and Possebon, incidentally - simple, neat and tidy...not overly flamboyant). this is why we looked disjointed the minute he came in.

those who are criticising Possebon after just one game, should remember how lost Anderson looked first games last season.

Red Norse

Compare him to Fletch man, Scholes seems to have coped quite well... Rubbish argument, it's about how he uses the ball, not how much he bench presses. He's 183 cm btw.

Striker10

let's get one thing straight. The fact you seriously sit there and think Yakubu would bounce off o'shea is probably the stupidest thing i've read in a long time. let's leave it as that...

Striker10

true but the point is he tries and so has the potential to add that to his game with games

Number7

Scholes looks physically strong...and I think Fletcher looks physically stronger than this Possebon lad...although granted I've only seen him on telly thus far, and only in todays game. Just my impressions from the game...looks like Eagles and didn't do anything worthwhile, like the rest of our team in the 2nd half.