Premier League Points Record

nahealai · 23rd February 2013, 17:36

*Apologies if there has been a thread on this already, or if this topic has been discussed elsewhere.*

So, with 11 games to go, and us accumulating 68 points already, we are just ahead of the points-per-game average needed to break Chelsea's 95 point record haul from 2004/05.

As things stand, we are on course to garner 95.70 points. With us needing at least 96 points to beat the record, we need 28 points from the 33 that are available to us in the remaining matches. To put it into context, that's nine wins, a loss and a draw. Looking at our remaining fixtures, we should win all of our Premier League games in March. April is tricky with City, Stoke and Arsenal, and May won't be easy either, especially if we're still competing in the FA Cup and Champions League.

If I was to be a little giddy, I would say we'll win our next five games, draw at Stoke, beat Villa, draw with Arsenal and Chelsea, beat Swansea and draw with West Brom, leaving us with 93 points.

March
2 Norwich (H)
9 West Ham (A)
16 Reading (H)
30 Sunderland (A)

April
6 Man City (H)
13 Stoke (A)
20 Aston Villa (H)
27 Arsenal (A)

May
4 Chelsea (H)
12 Swansea (H)
19 West Brom (A)

So, is it achievable, or is it just about securing the title as efficiently as we can in order to juggle our Cup commitments?

bosnian_red · 23rd February 2013, 17:44

Don't think we'll get it, especially seeing as we will most likely wrap it up early and have nothing to play for, and have to go away to teams like arsenal who will be fighting for 4th place. Think we'll drop points away to arsenal, away to stoke and home to Chelsea. Maybe away to west brom as well depending on how we do it the champions league and fa cup.

Forevergiggs · 23rd February 2013, 17:45

It will like in the CL group stage, we'll win it early and then give games to squad players and reserves.

ricky-romeo · 23rd February 2013, 17:48

we could actually seal the tittle at old trafford, against city of all team, assuming they drop points somewhere before the 6th of april game, and we did not.

i would not mind fergei fielding a second or third choice team after that. we could give in more attention to our cup games if we are still in it by then.

Stobzilla · 23rd February 2013, 17:52

Win the next 5 in the league. that should be all we are thinking about. West Ham on the 9th of March is the only one I am worried about before the City game.

Platato · 23rd February 2013, 17:53

We'll most likely drop points at West Ham, Stoke and maybe Arsenal.

Pexbo · 23rd February 2013, 17:55

Record points in the League in a Treble winning season is some achievement. Well done lads, big shout out to Welbz, Wazza and Perse.

RK · 23rd February 2013, 17:55

No realistic chance. And we're definitely unlikely to win all of the next 4 league games.

Keltoi · 23rd February 2013, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK

No realistic chance. And we're definitely unlikely to win all of the next 4 league games.

Can we quote you on that last bit?

VoetbalWizard · 23rd February 2013, 18:01

not sure if this is on like the treble.

Have to do more contemplation.

will get back to you.

Hernandez - BFA · 23rd February 2013, 18:03

If we win our next 5 games in the league, I'd say we are Champions.

By then, if we are still in contention, Fergie would focus on FA Cup and CL.

Plechazunga · 23rd February 2013, 18:04

West Ham away is always horrible

We'll lose at least one out of that, Arsenal, Stoke and West Brom, and draw at least one of City and Chelsea at home. Which gives us no margin for error in any of the others.

thegregster · 23rd February 2013, 18:05

West Ham away is postponed due to the FA cup.

gbgary · 23rd February 2013, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

not sure if this is on like the treble.

Have to do more contemplation.

will get back to you.

i think it's more "on" than the treble myself...but as you inferred, we'll see.

Sultan · 23rd February 2013, 18:48

If the Premiership is won with a number of games still needed to play, Sir Alex will play fringe players.

Chabon · 23rd February 2013, 18:58

If we're still in the cups after we seal the title we've not got a hope. Should definitely break our own record though.

DevilRed · 23rd February 2013, 19:07

Will be difficult to sustain this kind of form if we go deeper into the CL. Then of course we still have to contend with FA cup matches as well. Having said that though, if our squad stays injury free we have a good shout. This is as deep of a team we've had since I can remember.

Arruda · 23rd February 2013, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultan

If the Premiership is won with a number of games still needed to play, Sir Alex will play fringe players.

That will have to be the case. Otherwise the record won't be beaten anyway as you'd have lost too many points.

DevilRed · 23rd February 2013, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultan

If the Premiership is won with a number of games still needed to play, Sir Alex will play fringe players.

The thing is, even with "fringe" players like Nani, Ando, Welbeck, Scholes, Evans, Smalling, Jones etc. we would still be quite a competitive team. I'd expect us to get maximum points for all home matches even with that team.

pablotatt · 23rd February 2013, 19:15

We'll win it on April 6th

MancFanFromManc · 23rd February 2013, 20:37

We wont beat the points record. As soon as we're champions Fergie will rest our main players for the ECL and FA Cup matches, meaning we'll inevitably drop points

Great 3 today tho, another banana skin avoided. QPR have really tightened up at the back under Redknapp, just ask Mancini

LawCharltonBest · 23rd February 2013, 20:45

If the Premier League was our only commitment then I would back us to do it.

But when you are comfortable in the league and you have a genuine chance of winning the Champions League, I think you have to select your teams around the CL, like Sir Alex has been doing.

Bloxy · 23rd February 2013, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawCharltonBest

If the Premier League was our only commitment then I would back us to do it.

But when you are comfortable in the league and you have a genuine chance of winning the Champions League, I think you have to select your teams around the CL, like Sir Alex has been doing.

I suppose if we beat Madrid then we have to rotate our players more, so we'll know in little more than a week.

Bill.s.preston · 23rd February 2013, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by MancFanFromManc

We wont beat the points record. As soon as we're champions Fergie will rest our main players for the ECL and FA Cup matches, meaning we'll inevitably drop points

Great 3 today tho, another banana skin avoided. QPR have really tightened up at the back under Redknapp, just ask Mancini

If we manage to win the league with a few games spare, I'd agree. He'll play Nick Powell and one or two other youngsters.

ravelston · 23rd February 2013, 20:59

The 99-00 team won their last 11 games in the Prem while getting to the CL semis. Anything can happen.

jakec · 23rd February 2013, 21:01

If we won the league with games to spare, I can imagine a team like

Lindegaard
Smalling
Evans
Jones
Buttner
Anderson
Scholes
Young
Nani
Welbeck
Hernandez

With youngsters on the bench, maybe a few starting.

CnutOfAllCnuts · 23rd February 2013, 21:04

Realistically, the earliest we will have it wrapped up will be 22nd April, after 33 games.

wr8_utd · 23rd February 2013, 21:05

Don't really care if we beat the points total and I think it's highly unlikely that we will. Main focus should be on keeping that 12 points lead intact over City intact till we play them.

Ruud10 · 23rd February 2013, 21:10

We'll likely come up just short, but I wouldn't rule out Fergie having Plan B teams grinding out wins against demoralized and defrocked Arsenal and Chelsea squads.

snootyjim · 23rd February 2013, 21:27

Problem is, we need a team to really push us. Supposing City won every game between now and the end of the season, that would put them on 89 points. And in all probability, they won't.

Therefore, supposing we kept this form going (which would be no mean feat), we would guarantee the title with 90 points, leaving Swansea and West Brom as games that we could afford to lose. The latter, in particular, is just 6 days before the Champions League final, if we make it.

I doubt it.

rcoobc · 23rd February 2013, 21:33

If we go out of the European Cup and FA Cup, this record will be all there is to play for... assuming it's "in the bag".

Personally I hope we don't get it, if it means we have a better chance of winning the other two.

nahealai · 23rd February 2013, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravelston

The 99-00 team won their last 11 games in the Prem while getting to the CL semis. Anything can happen.

They also had the advantage of being pushed to the pin of their collar by Arsenal in the League, though. With only 45 minutes of the season left, we were going to finish as runners-up in the Premier League. That team had a lot of character, but they didn't have a cushion that the current team are enjoying.

Spoony Kobayashi · 23rd February 2013, 22:14

I reckon we need to win 5 more or gain 15 points. City have Chelsea at home and Spurs and Everton away. They won't win all their remaining games. Which is hardly sticking my neck out...

Keltoi · 23rd February 2013, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

Realistically, the earliest we will have it wrapped up will be 22nd April, after 33 games.

Realistically we can wrap it up against city imo. To do that we'd need to be 19 points clear post game, so 16 pre game.

The games leading up to that for us are very winnable with Norwich (H) West Ham (A) Reading (H) Sunderland (A).

Man City's games in that period are Chelsea (H) Aston Villa (A) Everton (A) Newcastle United (H). They just need to drop 4 points in those four games for that to be a possibility and given their current form that is far from unlikely. A draw/loss is on the cards vs Chelsea and likewise with Everton away. Those two games should see them drop 4 points.

Spoony Kobayashi · 23rd February 2013, 22:17

They've also got us at OT. You can't help but be uberconfident.

pablotatt · 23rd February 2013, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keltoi

Realistically we can wrap it up against city imo. To do that we'd need to be 19 points clear post game, so 16 pre game.

The games leading up to that for us are very winnable with Norwich (H) West Ham (A) Reading (H) Sunderland (A).

Man City's games in that period are Chelsea (H) Aston Villa (A) Everton (A) Newcastle United (H). They just need to drop 4 points in those four games for that to be a possibility and given their current form that is far from unlikely. A draw/loss is on the cards vs Chelsea and likewise with Everton away. Those two games should see them drop 4 points.

Will we play West Ham before then?

pablotatt · 23rd February 2013, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakec

If we won the league with games to spare, I can imagine a team like

Lindegaard
Smalling
Evans
Jones
Buttner
Anderson
Scholes
Young
Nani
Welbeck
Hernandez

With youngsters on the bench, maybe a few starting.

Better than 95% of the teams in Europe.

ISSYNAZAR · 23rd February 2013, 23:03

I think it's more than achievable. It's not something which should consume our season, but certainly something this squad is capable of doing.

Nothing wrong with adding a bit of gloss, providing there is something to gloss.

Keltoi · 23rd February 2013, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by pablotatt

Will we play West Ham before then?

It needs to be rearranged as it clashes with the fa cup quarter, I've just taken them in order from the official site though.

Stobzilla · 23rd February 2013, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravelston

The 99-00 team won their last 11 games in the Prem while getting to the CL semis. Anything can happen.

We only got to the quarters in 99/00

23rd February 2013, 17:36	#1 (permalink)
nahealai Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: The Republik of Mancunia Posts: 4,102	Premier League Points Record Apologies if there has been a thread on this already, or if this topic has been discussed elsewhere. So, with 11 games to go, and us accumulating 68 points already, we are just ahead of the points-per-game average needed to break Chelsea's 95 point record haul from 2004/05. As things stand, we are on course to garner 95.70 points. With us needing at least 96 points to beat the record, we need 28 points from the 33 that are available to us in the remaining matches. To put it into context, that's nine wins, a loss and a draw. Looking at our remaining fixtures, we should win all of our Premier League games in March. April is tricky with City, Stoke and Arsenal, and May won't be easy either, especially if we're still competing in the FA Cup and Champions League. If I was to be a little giddy, I would say we'll win our next five games, draw at Stoke, beat Villa, draw with Arsenal and Chelsea, beat Swansea and draw with West Brom, leaving us with 93 points. March 2 Norwich (H) 9 West Ham (A) 16 Reading (H) 30 Sunderland (A) April 6 Man City (H) 13 Stoke (A) 20 Aston Villa (H) 27 Arsenal (A) May 4 Chelsea (H) 12 Swansea (H) 19 West Brom (A) So, is it achievable, or is it just about securing the title as efficiently as we can in order to juggle our Cup commitments?

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23rd February 2013, 17:44	#2 (permalink)
bosnian_red First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 5,880	Don't think we'll get it, especially seeing as we will most likely wrap it up early and have nothing to play for, and have to go away to teams like arsenal who will be fighting for 4th place. Think we'll drop points away to arsenal, away to stoke and home to Chelsea. Maybe away to west brom as well depending on how we do it the champions league and fa cup.

23rd February 2013, 17:45	#3 (permalink)
Forevergiggs Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Gypsy Posts: 3,216	It will like in the CL group stage, we'll win it early and then give games to squad players and reserves.

23rd February 2013, 17:48	#4 (permalink)
ricky-romeo First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: kota bharu Posts: 6,674	we could actually seal the tittle at old trafford, against city of all team, assuming they drop points somewhere before the 6th of april game, and we did not. i would not mind fergei fielding a second or third choice team after that. we could give in more attention to our cup games if we are still in it by then.

23rd February 2013, 17:52	#5 (permalink)
Stobzilla Official Team Perv Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: sir alex macheda fergsuson the bumble king. i respect david moyer but he is fragile like china Posts: 8,477	Win the next 5 in the league. that should be all we are thinking about. West Ham on the 9th of March is the only one I am worried about before the City game.

23rd February 2013, 17:53	#6 (permalink)
Platato Psst! Transfer Forum Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,249	We'll most likely drop points at West Ham, Stoke and maybe Arsenal.

23rd February 2013, 17:55	#7 (permalink)
Pexbo He'll have your eye out and listed on Amazon before you can say "ow!" Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: T'Internet Posts: 11,797	Record points in the League in a Treble winning season is some achievement. Well done lads, big shout out to Welbz, Wazza and Perse.

23rd February 2013, 17:55	#8 (permalink)
RK First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 15,123	No realistic chance. And we're definitely unlikely to win all of the next 4 league games.

23rd February 2013, 18:01	#10 (permalink)
VoetbalWizard Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: at the altar of ryan giggs Posts: 12,597	not sure if this is on like the treble. Have to do more contemplation. will get back to you.

23rd February 2013, 18:03	#11 (permalink)
Hernandez - BFA Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Enough of these dubstep jokes - just drop it! Posts: 4,395	If we win our next 5 games in the league, I'd say we are Champions. By then, if we are still in contention, Fergie would focus on FA Cup and CL.

23rd February 2013, 18:04	#12 (permalink)
Plechazunga Grammar partisan who sleeps with a real life Ryan Giggs doll. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Where Albert Stubbins scored a diving header Posts: 51,858	West Ham away is always horrible We'll lose at least one out of that, Arsenal, Stoke and West Brom, and draw at least one of City and Chelsea at home. Which gives us no margin for error in any of the others.

23rd February 2013, 18:05	#13 (permalink)
thegregster Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Out here in the fields I fight for my meals I get my back into my living. I don't need to fight To prove I'm right I don't need to be forgiven. Posts: 4,577	West Ham away is postponed due to the FA cup.

23rd February 2013, 18:48	#15 (permalink)
Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing Posts: 34,193	If the Premiership is won with a number of games still needed to play, Sir Alex will play fringe players.

23rd February 2013, 18:58	#16 (permalink)
Chabon Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,979	If we're still in the cups after we seal the title we've not got a hope. Should definitely break our own record though.

23rd February 2013, 19:07	#17 (permalink)
DevilRed First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: I saw my mate the other day, he told me he'd seen the white Pele. So I asked, "Who is he?". "He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney". Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney, he goes by the name of Wayne Rooney. Posts: 5,207	Will be difficult to sustain this kind of form if we go deeper into the CL. Then of course we still have to contend with FA cup matches as well. Having said that though, if our squad stays injury free we have a good shout. This is as deep of a team we've had since I can remember.

23rd February 2013, 19:15	#20 (permalink)
pablotatt Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,641	We'll win it on April 6th

23rd February 2013, 20:37	#21 (permalink)
MancFanFromManc First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: RedCafe Ninja. Stalks the forum undercover, then wham, throws in a line or two of common sense just to confuse everyone :-P Posts: 6,808	We wont beat the points record. As soon as we're champions Fergie will rest our main players for the ECL and FA Cup matches, meaning we'll inevitably drop points Great 3 today tho, another banana skin avoided. QPR have really tightened up at the back under Redknapp, just ask Mancini

23rd February 2013, 20:45	#22 (permalink)
LawCharltonBest Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2012 Location: Admiring the statue outside Old Trafford Posts: 2,282	If the Premier League was our only commitment then I would back us to do it. But when you are comfortable in the league and you have a genuine chance of winning the Champions League, I think you have to select your teams around the CL, like Sir Alex has been doing.

23rd February 2013, 20:59	#25 (permalink)
ravelston Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Boston - the one in the States Posts: 1,353	The 99-00 team won their last 11 games in the Prem while getting to the CL semis. Anything can happen.

23rd February 2013, 21:01	#26 (permalink)
jakec I'm a fecking politics student for Gods sake Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Follow me @_JakeCullen_ Posts: 20,888	If we won the league with games to spare, I can imagine a team like Lindegaard Smalling Evans Jones Buttner Anderson Scholes Young Nani Welbeck Hernandez With youngsters on the bench, maybe a few starting.

23rd February 2013, 21:04	#27 (permalink)
CnutOfAllCnuts Bald Boring Cnut Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 29,773	Realistically, the earliest we will have it wrapped up will be 22nd April, after 33 games.

23rd February 2013, 21:05	#28 (permalink)
wr8_utd :'( Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 28,289	Don't really care if we beat the points total and I think it's highly unlikely that we will. Main focus should be on keeping that 12 points lead intact over City intact till we play them.

23rd February 2013, 21:10	#29 (permalink)
Ruud10 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: California Posts: 4,270	We'll likely come up just short, but I wouldn't rule out Fergie having Plan B teams grinding out wins against demoralized and defrocked Arsenal and Chelsea squads.

23rd February 2013, 21:27	#30 (permalink)
snootyjim In most joy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Redcafe, circa 2006 Posts: 3,693	Problem is, we need a team to really push us. Supposing City won every game between now and the end of the season, that would put them on 89 points. And in all probability, they won't. Therefore, supposing we kept this form going (which would be no mean feat), we would guarantee the title with 90 points, leaving Swansea and West Brom as games that we could afford to lose. The latter, in particular, is just 6 days before the Champions League final, if we make it. I doubt it.

23rd February 2013, 21:33	#31 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 23,006	If we go out of the European Cup and FA Cup, this record will be all there is to play for... assuming it's "in the bag". Personally I hope we don't get it, if it means we have a better chance of winning the other two.

23rd February 2013, 22:14	#33 (permalink)
Spoony Kobayashi Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Existential Crisis. Posts: 45,744	I reckon we need to win 5 more or gain 15 points. City have Chelsea at home and Spurs and Everton away. They won't win all their remaining games. Which is hardly sticking my neck out...

23rd February 2013, 22:17	#35 (permalink)
Spoony Kobayashi Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Existential Crisis. Posts: 45,744	They've also got us at OT. You can't help but be uberconfident.

23rd February 2013, 23:03	#38 (permalink)
ISSYNAZAR First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: When did Scholes grow 5 inches and dye his hair dark brown? Posts: 5,530	I think it's more than achievable. It's not something which should consume our season, but certainly something this squad is capable of doing. Nothing wrong with adding a bit of gloss, providing there is something to gloss.