Queiroz considering £1.5m / year offer for Portugal job.

MrMarcello · 2nd July 2008, 13:07

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Originally Posted by devilish

We had already taken that path in the past and we failed miserably. Robson is a bit shite in coaching btw.

There is a huge difference between being an assistant coach/manager versus being in complete charge of a club. Robson as an assistant to SAF is not a terrible choice should Queiroz depart. I'd personally rather see SAF find a non-British assistant, someone that has a clue about continental tactis and whatnot.

I also wonder if a certain Steve McClaren might get a phone call.

Ander8on · 2nd July 2008, 13:22

Both McLaren & Queiroz brought with them modern training techniques, the only thing Robbo would bring would be the scent of keg - I love the bloke, but I just dont think he can transfer the kind of leadership skills he used to display on the pitch into player development skills on the training ground.

devilish · 2nd July 2008, 15:09

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Originally Posted by FlawlessThaw

You mean like Ferguson did with Brian Kidd? Didn't realise this failed so miserably

Kidd left the club 10 years ago in favor of Mclaren whose contribution was important in winning the treble. Since then we had tried to pick an assistant manager from within our ranks twice. First when Mclaren left (the result was a disaster) then when Queiroz left (again a disaster).

SAF had said it in numerous occasions that he is nowadays a dinosaur in various areas and that Quieroz provides quality help. In my opinion if Carlos leaves then bringing in a quality assistant manager will be more important then signing in a quality striker. BTW being a quality assistant manager means being able to lead a small EPL side without finishing sacked......four times.

devilish · 2nd July 2008, 15:13

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Originally Posted by MrMarcello

There is a huge difference between being an assistant coach/manager versus being in complete charge of a club. Robson as an assistant to SAF is not a terrible choice should Queiroz depart. I'd personally rather see SAF find a non-British assistant, someone that has a clue about continental tactis and whatnot.

I also wonder if a certain Steve McClaren might get a phone call.

SAF's greatness relies in realising his weaknesses and work on them. He himself had said that he is nowadays a dinosaur in certain areas of management and therefore he needs someone to compensate to that. Robson was one of my favorite players in the past but in management he basically sucks. Therefore I cannot see how he can succeed in an area where both Phelan and Ryan (who didn't had the need to end up as 'ambassadors' ) failed miserably.

Mclaren is currently leading Twente.

Rednails · 2nd July 2008, 17:03

Here's a scenario - what if SAF decides that the club must come first and retires now, handing over the reigns to Carlos?

Dr. Dwayne · 2nd July 2008, 17:05

Richter · 2nd July 2008, 22:34

United dangle £500k in front of Queiroz in bid to thwart Portugal move

By Ian Ladyman
Last updated at 9:40 PM on 02nd July 2008

Manchester United have offered Carlos Queiroz a £500,000-a-year pay rise to stay at Old Trafford. As revealed by Sportsmail yesterday, Sir Alex Ferguson’s No.2 is weighing up an invitation to manage Portugal until the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.

It is understood that Queiroz has told the United board that he would like to go but that United boss Ferguson has urged chief executive David Gill to do everything he can to keep the 55-year-old at the club.

Ferguson believes his assistant is the best man to succeed him as manager when he retires, but Queiroz feels that the current Portugal team has the potential to win the World Cup in two years, and is confident that a successful stint with his country would only increase his chances of returning to Old Trafford as number one.

Currently earning £1m-a-year at United, Queiroz would earn £1.5m if he accepts the pay rise now on the table - a slight increase on the £1.4m being offered to him by the Portuguese Football Federation.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/....html?ITO=1490

cockneyred · 2nd July 2008, 22:43

what about cantona as saf no2 if cq does go? good shout or not.

prateik · 2nd July 2008, 22:49

cantona wont be no2

he is the king

anyway , he is still trying to perfect his acting ..
when he reaches the top of his ability he will consider taking up management .. not yet ..

Hellboy · 3rd July 2008, 00:09

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...sweetener.html

he's off according to the mail

Name Changed · 3rd July 2008, 00:10

I wouldn't blame him for taking over at Portugal. I would have doubt about his ability to manage after his stint at Real though.

BahamaRed · 3rd July 2008, 02:59

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Originally Posted by quiet_united

So BR, what does the Queirometer look like now ?

I accepted your name. Good one. I'm from The Internet.

Jacob · 3rd July 2008, 03:14

Can't see any other assistant that would do us good.

Escobar · 3rd July 2008, 07:25

Papers really try their best to unsettle us. They still dont understand Fergie though...

M160RA · 3rd July 2008, 07:34

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Originally Posted by Jacob

Can't see any other assistant that would do us good.

:jol:

Johnno · 3rd July 2008, 07:41

Bring in Eric as Number Two......
Do it, do it now....

devilish · 3rd July 2008, 09:24

Cantona was a great player but there is nothing that suggest that he would be a good coach. If Queroz goes then we have to bring in an experienced assistant manager. Ireland's assistant manager Marco Tardelli should do the trick. The man did wonders with Italy U21 team.

Drifter · 3rd July 2008, 11:09

Potuguese papers say Quieroz as agreed to be there next manager in a 4 year deal.Could be bollocks.

Number7 · 3rd July 2008, 11:09

Not the best pre season ever, thus far

Elessar · 3rd July 2008, 11:23

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Potuguese papers say Quieroz as agreed to be there next manager in a 4 year deal.Could be bollocks.

and chances to keep ronaldo decreases with oooo say 40%

you think winning the champions league would make people stick around.....

Kelvin · 3rd July 2008, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Potuguese papers say Quieroz as agreed to be there next manager in a 4 year deal.Could be bollocks.

there is no denial from the club though, sound just a matter of time.

Nick 0208 Ldn · 3rd July 2008, 11:27

So we have been led to beleive in recent seasons Sir Alex has delegated a not insignificant amount of authority to Carlos, and you'd **** that if we are forced to look for a replacement that he woudl like to maintian this arrangement as much as possible. With his multi-lingual skills he ahs acted as a bridge to some fo the new foreign players and eased their arrival.

There is also the issue of his contacts overseas but we'll have to trust that those people have formed good relationships with teh club and that Queiroz will still toss us a bone or two if he spots a gem somewhere. If he plans on returning as No 1, these would seem all the more likely.

But it is for these reasons that candidates such as Robson and Cantona are really not viable, any new member of the team would hae to take on a lot, both in regard to training, day to day management and the media. Did someone mention Ole? Give him time to grow as a coach, let him be.

I honestly don't know who we might end up going for, but Queiroz having held the role should probably have some input and option to make recommendations IMO. He and Fergie had formed a great partnership, this will not be easy.

quiet_united · 3rd July 2008, 11:30

All because of Chelsea

Nick 0208 Ldn · 3rd July 2008, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Cheltenham Red

It is amazing how 2 years ago everyone was blaming CQ for our lack of sucess in europe and calling for his head,now almost all fans are praying he stays.Funny old game.

Got hold my hand up here, i have been unfair to him probably more than once.

Though i am still disappointed in a fair few of his comments after the Eduardo injury last season, post match Pompey in the FA Cup seems to stand out i think. But then SAF joined him in that too so.....

quiet_united · 3rd July 2008, 11:34

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Originally Posted by BahamaRed

I accepted your name. Good one. I'm from The Internet.

There must be a link between this meter and the other one! I know this.

Drifter · 3rd July 2008, 12:10

LISBON (AFP) - Alex Ferguson's right-hand man at Manchester United, Carlos Queiroz, is set to take over from Luiz Felipe Scolari as Portugal's national team coach, Portuguese papers reported on Thursday.

The reports said that ongoing contract talks were almost completed and that Queiroz was set to ink a four-year contract to take charge of Portugal through the 2010 World Cup finals in South Africa and Euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine.

The 55-year-old Queiroz would take over as national team coach for a second time having been in charge from 1991 to 1993.

He was coach at Real Madrid from 2003 to 2004 and has been assistant to Ferguson at Old Trafford since then.

The Portugal job became vacant when Scolari opted to join Chelsea after the Euro 2008 finals.

Escobar · 3rd July 2008, 12:14

I hope not.

Is it possible to do both jobs?

Rednails · 3rd July 2008, 12:36

I just hope that they dont f*** up on this one. Who'd want to be no2 to SAF, knowing he's going soon.? More upheaval.

devilish · 3rd July 2008, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Rednails

I just hope that they dont f*** up on this one. Who'd want to be no2 to SAF, knowing he's going soon.? More upheaval.

I fear that SAF will appoint one of his yes men. It would be either Ryan or Phelan. God save us.

botond · 3rd July 2008, 12:44

http://www.ojogo.pt/

could somebody translate please

Kelvin · 3rd July 2008, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drifter

Potuguese papers say Quieroz as agreed to be there next manager in a 4 year deal.Could be bollocks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by botond

http://www.ojogo.pt/

could somebody translate please

exactly what drifter posted.

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Ander8on Pissface Bob for another 12 months Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chorlton "Knowledge speaks, but Wisdom listens" Posts: 3,395	Both McLaren & Queiroz brought with them modern training techniques, the only thing Robbo would bring would be the scent of keg - I love the bloke, but I just dont think he can transfer the kind of leadership skills he used to display on the pitch into player development skills on the training ground.

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Rednails Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lancashire Posts: 588	Here's a scenario - what if SAF decides that the club must come first and retires now, handing over the reigns to Carlos?

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Richter Hairy big footed Swede Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Trying to burn down Marca's office Posts: 25,638	United dangle £500k in front of Queiroz in bid to thwart Portugal move By Ian Ladyman Last updated at 9:40 PM on 02nd July 2008 Manchester United have offered Carlos Queiroz a £500,000-a-year pay rise to stay at Old Trafford. As revealed by Sportsmail yesterday, Sir Alex Ferguson’s No.2 is weighing up an invitation to manage Portugal until the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. It is understood that Queiroz has told the United board that he would like to go but that United boss Ferguson has urged chief executive David Gill to do everything he can to keep the 55-year-old at the club. Ferguson believes his assistant is the best man to succeed him as manager when he retires, but Queiroz feels that the current Portugal team has the potential to win the World Cup in two years, and is confident that a successful stint with his country would only increase his chances of returning to Old Trafford as number one. Currently earning £1m-a-year at United, Queiroz would earn £1.5m if he accepts the pay rise now on the table - a slight increase on the £1.4m being offered to him by the Portuguese Football Federation. http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/....html?ITO=1490

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cockneyred Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: sCUNThorpe Posts: 1,423	what about cantona as saf no2 if cq does go? good shout or not.

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prateik Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,070	cantona wont be no2 he is the king anyway , he is still trying to perfect his acting .. when he reaches the top of his ability he will consider taking up management .. not yet ..

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Hellboy First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Berbaville Posts: 5,169	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...sweetener.html he's off according to the mail

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Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,524	I wouldn't blame him for taking over at Portugal. I would have doubt about his ability to manage after his stint at Real though.

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Jacob ralugeR maeT tsriF Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I'm here Posts: 12,259	Can't see any other assistant that would do us good.

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Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Federer-Land Posts: 12,075	Papers really try their best to unsettle us. They still dont understand Fergie though...

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Johnno Destroyer of bullies Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,920	Bring in Eric as Number Two...... Do it, do it now....

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devilish Nationality: Italian-English, Maltese Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cnut's home Posts: 18,163	Cantona was a great player but there is nothing that suggest that he would be a good coach. If Queroz goes then we have to bring in an experienced assistant manager. Ireland's assistant manager Marco Tardelli should do the trick. The man did wonders with Italy U21 team.

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Drifter First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,396	Potuguese papers say Quieroz as agreed to be there next manager in a 4 year deal.Could be bollocks.

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Number7 Ret's Slave Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 21,972	Not the best pre season ever, thus far

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Nick 0208 Ldn First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Londinium - Never stop dreaming. Posts: 6,840	So we have been led to beleive in recent seasons Sir Alex has delegated a not insignificant amount of authority to Carlos, and you'd **** that if we are forced to look for a replacement that he woudl like to maintian this arrangement as much as possible. With his multi-lingual skills he ahs acted as a bridge to some fo the new foreign players and eased their arrival. There is also the issue of his contacts overseas but we'll have to trust that those people have formed good relationships with teh club and that Queiroz will still toss us a bone or two if he spots a gem somewhere. If he plans on returning as No 1, these would seem all the more likely. But it is for these reasons that candidates such as Robson and Cantona are really not viable, any new member of the team would hae to take on a lot, both in regard to training, day to day management and the media. Did someone mention Ole? Give him time to grow as a coach, let him be. I honestly don't know who we might end up going for, but Queiroz having held the role should probably have some input and option to make recommendations IMO. He and Fergie had formed a great partnership, this will not be easy.

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quiet_united Vietnamese Red Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mars Posts: 2,437	All because of Chelsea

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Drifter First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,396	LISBON (AFP) - Alex Ferguson's right-hand man at Manchester United, Carlos Queiroz, is set to take over from Luiz Felipe Scolari as Portugal's national team coach, Portuguese papers reported on Thursday. The reports said that ongoing contract talks were almost completed and that Queiroz was set to ink a four-year contract to take charge of Portugal through the 2010 World Cup finals in South Africa and Euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine. The 55-year-old Queiroz would take over as national team coach for a second time having been in charge from 1991 to 1993. He was coach at Real Madrid from 2003 to 2004 and has been assistant to Ferguson at Old Trafford since then. The Portugal job became vacant when Scolari opted to join Chelsea after the Euro 2008 finals.

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Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Federer-Land Posts: 12,075	I hope not. Is it possible to do both jobs?

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Rednails Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lancashire Posts: 588	I just hope that they dont f*** up on this one. Who'd want to be no2 to SAF, knowing he's going soon.? More upheaval.

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botond Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,301	http://www.ojogo.pt/ could somebody translate please