Queiroz considering £1.5m / year offer for Portugal job.

Cheltenham Red · 8th July 2008, 12:44

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

An assistant manager is a glorified title for a coach, and Brian McClair has been coaching for ten years.

So I have no idea what relevance it has that he has only had the title "assistant manager" at Blackburn.

Ten years coaching Reserves/kids would not realy help him to deal with the type of player we have in our first team squad.McClair would also struggle to match the european knowledge that Carlos has for scouting so for me it will be too big an ask for him to step up to coach the big boys.

It would be nice to bring in someone of a similar type to Queiroz to try and keep some continuity and not go from a european minded no.2 to a british one.
DISLAIMER The above post is only my opinion and i have never had my bollocks felt late at night by my uncle Dave

CnutOfAllCnuts · 8th July 2008, 13:38

I don't see the problem. If Sir Alex think McClair is the right man, that is far than good enough for me.

Sir Alex hasn't exactly been wrong too often with his assistants.

Knox, Kidd, McLaren, Smith, Queroz.

All landed good jobs after leaving United.

jasonrh · 8th July 2008, 14:30

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

We have already got a replacement for Ronaldo though in Nani, sure he wont score as many goals but he'll do a more than good enough job on the wing for us

Getting a replacement top quality assistant manager in though will be tough work

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

You're laughing at Nani being good enough to replace Ronaldo?

According to the above poster, in August last year we were doomed and needed to hold onto 4th.

Now Nani is the ready-made replacement for the Best Player On The Planet.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the Caf...

CnutOfAllCnuts · 8th July 2008, 14:32

Nani has every chance to become a good player. A superb player even. But he will never be as good as Ronaldo. Hasn't got the physical attributes that sets Ronaldo apart.

Richter · 8th July 2008, 14:36

At 66, Ferguson has acknowledged the requirement for a younger assistant with an in-depth knowledge of the global market, but replacing Queiroz like-for-like will be a challenge.

Laurent Blanc, the former United and France defender, has emerged as a leading candidate after guiding Bordeaux to second spot in the French league last season. Ferguson is a long-standing admirer of the 42-year-old, who he has credited with inspiring defenders Rio Ferdinand and Wes Brown during his two-year playing stint at the club.

Pako Ayesteran, the former Liverpool coach, is also well-regarded within Old Trafford circles.

Academy director Brian McClair, first-team coach Mike Phelan and Rene Meulensteen, United's highly-rated technical skills development coach, are among those likely to be considered as temporary replacements for Queiroz.

Blanc heads race to be Ferguson’s new No 2 at Old Trafford

Laurent Blanc: Sir Alex Ferguson has often praised Blanc’s influence on United’s youngsters during his two-year playing stint at Old Trafford. Now managing Bordeaux, Blanc has the youth and Continental contacts which are viewed as essential by the United manager.

Brian McClair: Despite a brief and unsuccessful spell as assistant to Brian Kidd at Blackburn, McClair has since impressed behind the scenes at Old Trafford, managing the reserve team and heading up the club’s academy.

Rene Meulensteen: Dutchman presently working as United’s technical skills development coach, but highly regarded by Ferguson. Coached United’s reserves before taking over as Brondby coach in 2006. Returned to United 12 months later.

Pako Ayesteran: Both United and Chelsea were linked with the Spaniard when he ended a lengthy partnership with Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez last season. He is now a coach with Benfica, but Ferguson would relish hiring a man with an in-depth knowledge of one of United greatest rivals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfnman108.xml

Elliott · 8th July 2008, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Lot 49

That's pretty much the opposite of what I heard from Brondby fans and read at the time.

They had a sub-par squad in part because Meulensteen made some crap signings like Rector and Sigurosson who were no where near good enough and quickly got rid of. The club captain Nielsen who had been at Brondby his whole career and is basically their version of Gary Neville came out and said he was concerned about the strength of the squad, later after their terrible results under Meulensteen had proved Nielsen right Meulensteen claimed the player and a few others were undermining him and went to the chairman to try and get the player sacked (remember this is their long serving club captain and very popular player). The chairman refused and obviously from then on Meulensteen had an untenable position and that's why he went. I've never really heard anyone try and claim he had popular support and in fact he seemed to be a bit of a joke figure amongst the Brondby supporters I knew at the time, they didn't hate him just thought he was incompetent as a manager. Got any links to stuff with the players or directors being full of praise for him or anything? I googled but couldn't find much.

Fair enough, mate. Very different from what I read on various footie sites at the time, but you seem to be more ITK. I'm very happy to have him step in for Queiroz for the time being though.

Elliott · 8th July 2008, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Richter

At 66, Ferguson has acknowledged the requirement for a younger assistant with an in-depth knowledge of the global market, but replacing Queiroz like-for-like will be a challenge.

Laurent Blanc, the former United and France defender, has emerged as a leading candidate after guiding Bordeaux to second spot in the French league last season. Ferguson is a long-standing admirer of the 42-year-old, who he has credited with inspiring defenders Rio Ferdinand and Wes Brown during his two-year playing stint at the club.

Pako Ayesteran, the former Liverpool coach, is also well-regarded within Old Trafford circles.

Academy director Brian McClair, first-team coach Mike Phelan and Rene Meulensteen, United's highly-rated technical skills development coach, are among those likely to be considered as temporary replacements for Queiroz.

Blanc heads race to be Ferguson’s new No 2 at Old Trafford

Laurent Blanc: Sir Alex Ferguson has often praised Blanc’s influence on United’s youngsters during his two-year playing stint at Old Trafford. Now managing Bordeaux, Blanc has the youth and Continental contacts which are viewed as essential by the United manager.

Brian McClair: Despite a brief and unsuccessful spell as assistant to Brian Kidd at Blackburn, McClair has since impressed behind the scenes at Old Trafford, managing the reserve team and heading up the club’s academy.

Rene Meulensteen: Dutchman presently working as United’s technical skills development coach, but highly regarded by Ferguson. Coached United’s reserves before taking over as Brondby coach in 2006. Returned to United 12 months later.

Pako Ayesteran: Both United and Chelsea were linked with the Spaniard when he ended a lengthy partnership with Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez last season. He is now a coach with Benfica, but Ferguson would relish hiring a man with an in-depth knowledge of one of United greatest rivals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfnman108.xml

Good article bar that last sentence.

jasonrh · 8th July 2008, 14:42

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

Nani has every chance to become a good player. A superb player even. But he will never be as good as Ronaldo. Hasn't got the physical attributes that sets Ronaldo apart.

It is one thing to be hugely optimistic.

It is another thing to be staggeringly fickle and swing from hugely optimistic to hugely doom mongering depending on what week it is.

VoetbalWizard · 8th July 2008, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Richter

At 66, Ferguson has acknowledged the requirement for a younger assistant with an in-depth knowledge of the global market, but replacing Queiroz like-for-like will be a challenge.

Laurent Blanc, the former United and France defender, has emerged as a leading candidate after guiding Bordeaux to second spot in the French league last season. Ferguson is a long-standing admirer of the 42-year-old, who he has credited with inspiring defenders Rio Ferdinand and Wes Brown during his two-year playing stint at the club.

Pako Ayesteran, the former Liverpool coach, is also well-regarded within Old Trafford circles.

Academy director Brian McClair, first-team coach Mike Phelan and Rene Meulensteen, United's highly-rated technical skills development coach, are among those likely to be considered as temporary replacements for Queiroz.

Blanc heads race to be Ferguson’s new No 2 at Old Trafford

Laurent Blanc: Sir Alex Ferguson has often praised Blanc’s influence on United’s youngsters during his two-year playing stint at Old Trafford. Now managing Bordeaux, Blanc has the youth and Continental contacts which are viewed as essential by the United manager.

Brian McClair: Despite a brief and unsuccessful spell as assistant to Brian Kidd at Blackburn, McClair has since impressed behind the scenes at Old Trafford, managing the reserve team and heading up the club’s academy.

Rene Meulensteen: Dutchman presently working as United’s technical skills development coach, but highly regarded by Ferguson. Coached United’s reserves before taking over as Brondby coach in 2006. Returned to United 12 months later.

Pako Ayesteran: Both United and Chelsea were linked with the Spaniard when he ended a lengthy partnership with Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez last season. He is now a coach with Benfica, but Ferguson would relish hiring a man with an in-depth knowledge of one of United greatest rivals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfnman108.xml

hope this blanc stuff isn't just paper shite.

Brwned · 8th July 2008, 14:50

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Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

hope this blanc stuff isn't just paper shite.

It probably is, I don't think he'd want to leave Bourdeaux while they're doing so well just to become an assistant manager here.

Elliott · 8th July 2008, 14:52

Larry is head coach at a CL club. Surely he's a pipe dream?

VoetbalWizard · 8th July 2008, 15:18

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Originally Posted by Brwned

It probably is, I don't think he'd want to leave Bourdeaux while they're doing so well just to become an assistant manager here.

that's what i think as well. a part of me actually doesn't want him to leave bordeaux because i want to see him prove himself as a gaffer in the CL and that could potentially put him in the running for our top seat opening in the future. i have high hopes for him

CnutOfAllCnuts · 8th July 2008, 15:19

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Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

that's what i think as well. a part of me actually doesn't want him to leave bordeaux because i want to see him prove himself as a gaffer in the CL and that could potentially put him in the running for our top seat opening in the future. i have high hopes for him

He won't prove himself as gaffer in the CL with Bordeaux

sammsky1 · 8th July 2008, 15:25

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Originally Posted by Youngie

Fergie should approach his lad Darren (who has done a great job at Peterboro) and groom him into being a cloned version of himself (sort of Dr Who stylee) ....just think! Another 20 years of a Ferguson pissing all over the Scousers!!!

nice one!

Tibs · 8th July 2008, 15:35

Sack CQ - Hire Cantona

In seriousness though, CQ is most likely off, good luck to him.

I'd say hire Benitez, the step up for him might be too much of a challenge though

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 8th July 2008, 15:52

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

No, you don't know which coaches are good and which aren't. In order to know that, you have to experience them coaching.

How badly did Choccy do at Blackburn? What was it that he did wrong?

They got relegated. He got sacked. That tells a lot.

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

And it is almost a decade ago.

So ? What has he done since to show he has improved from that?

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

If Choccy was such a bad oach, do you think Sir Alex would have put him in his current role?

Did I say he was a bad coach? I said he is a lousy assistant. A statement I stand by. It's not my fault you can't tell the difference.

Dippersripper · 8th July 2008, 15:54

Pako would be a good choice imo.

lao · 8th July 2008, 15:55

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

Nani has every chance to become a good player. A superb player even. But he will never be as good as Ronaldo. Hasn't got the physical attributes that sets Ronaldo apart.

Well, he hasn't got the height, but he's both faster and stronger than Ronnie. His abs and legs muscles are crazy.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 8th July 2008, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Wibble

............Yet he can't say categorically that Zidane was a better player than Titus Bramble. Go figure.

You sure know how to lie.. go figure. Zidane is a better player than Bramble. I've said it so many times on the cafe. But jokers like you keep claiming otherwise. All because you are too dumb to get the difference between saying "Zidane is a better player than Bramble" and "Zidane is better than Bramble" .

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 8th July 2008, 16:04

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Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

hope this blanc stuff isn't just paper shite.

Agreed

Brwned · 8th July 2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You sure know how to lie.. go figure. Zidane is a better player than Bramble. I've said it so many times on the cafe. But jokers like you keep claiming otherwise. All because you are too dumb to get the difference between saying "Zidane is a better player than Bramble" and "Zidane is better than Bramble" .

Chief really, there is no difference in those two statements.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 8th July 2008, 16:12

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

He is a fucking idiot

The only fucking idiot around is you. You bloody ignoramus

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

I bet he was abused as a child

In your wildest dreams. Not everyone has a background of molestation like you.

brophs · 8th July 2008, 16:14

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Originally Posted by lao

Well, he hasn't got the height, but he's both faster and stronger than Ronnie. His abs and legs muscles are crazy.

As well as being a bit gay, that statement is completely untrue. He's neither faster nor stronger.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 8th July 2008, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Chief really, there is no difference in those two statements.

You cant be serious. One is very specific. The other isn't. Especially in regards to football. To claim Zidane is better than Bramble (as in better in every aspect of football than Bramble) is bollocks. And you know it.

There is nothing more vague as claiming Zidane is better than Bramble.

Brwned · 8th July 2008, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You cant be serious. One is very specific. The other isn't. Especially in regards to football. To claim Zidane is better than Bramble (as in better in every aspect of football than Bramble) is bollocks. And you know it.

There is nothing more vague as claiming Zidane is better than Bramble.

I understand the difference now, but then really you're just being pedantic. Since this is a football forum you have to assume saying "Zidane is better than Bramble" means he is a better footballer. Zidane is better than Bramble in more areas than Bramble is better than Zidane, making him better. He's also better at what he does when both are played in their favoured position.

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CnutOfAllCnuts Bald Boring Cnut Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,096	I don't see the problem. If Sir Alex think McClair is the right man, that is far than good enough for me. Sir Alex hasn't exactly been wrong too often with his assistants. Knox, Kidd, McLaren, Smith, Queroz. All landed good jobs after leaving United.

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CnutOfAllCnuts Bald Boring Cnut Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,096	Nani has every chance to become a good player. A superb player even. But he will never be as good as Ronaldo. Hasn't got the physical attributes that sets Ronaldo apart.

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Richter Hairy big footed Swede Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Trying to burn down Marca's office Posts: 25,638	At 66, Ferguson has acknowledged the requirement for a younger assistant with an in-depth knowledge of the global market, but replacing Queiroz like-for-like will be a challenge. Laurent Blanc, the former United and France defender, has emerged as a leading candidate after guiding Bordeaux to second spot in the French league last season. Ferguson is a long-standing admirer of the 42-year-old, who he has credited with inspiring defenders Rio Ferdinand and Wes Brown during his two-year playing stint at the club. Pako Ayesteran, the former Liverpool coach, is also well-regarded within Old Trafford circles. Academy director Brian McClair, first-team coach Mike Phelan and Rene Meulensteen, United's highly-rated technical skills development coach, are among those likely to be considered as temporary replacements for Queiroz. Blanc heads race to be Ferguson’s new No 2 at Old Trafford Laurent Blanc: Sir Alex Ferguson has often praised Blanc’s influence on United’s youngsters during his two-year playing stint at Old Trafford. Now managing Bordeaux, Blanc has the youth and Continental contacts which are viewed as essential by the United manager. Brian McClair: Despite a brief and unsuccessful spell as assistant to Brian Kidd at Blackburn, McClair has since impressed behind the scenes at Old Trafford, managing the reserve team and heading up the club’s academy. Rene Meulensteen: Dutchman presently working as United’s technical skills development coach, but highly regarded by Ferguson. Coached United’s reserves before taking over as Brondby coach in 2006. Returned to United 12 months later. Pako Ayesteran: Both United and Chelsea were linked with the Spaniard when he ended a lengthy partnership with Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez last season. He is now a coach with Benfica, but Ferguson would relish hiring a man with an in-depth knowledge of one of United greatest rivals. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfnman108.xml

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