Real officially reported to Fifa

Pogue Mahone · 9th June 2008, 17:14

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Originally Posted by buildabonfire

Anyone else think this is a terrible idea?

We should be focusing on Ronnie, not Madrid. I think we need to make Ronnie feel loved, not shackled; and we want him to feel like he can choose to stay freely.

I can see him reacting very badly to this attempt to limit his choice.
I think we are creating a hostage to fortune the next time SAF casually mentions that he likes a player.
It's not going to do anything, anyway.

Yes. I do.

For all the reasons you've given above.

charleysurf · 9th June 2008, 17:18

I guess MARCA will have to come out and admit that their story about Ronaldo signing an agreement with Madrid was bullshit. Or their bosses at Real will be in trouble

buildabonfire · 9th June 2008, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I dunno. We've no evidence that anything like that happened.

IIRC, it was Bayern that went public about the United approach first. For all we know, that was the first time that Hargreaves was aware of it.

Hmmm - IIRC, he announced he wanted a move and said that there would be no problems over personal terms.

A charitable interpretation would be that he was ready to play for free; I think he knew, especially as he was pictured having a medical the day after England played at OT ages before he actually moved!

Anyway, that's not really the issue I suppose!

Rooney1987 · 9th June 2008, 17:30

Did Inter, juventus, Barca or Milan ever report Real to Fifa

Sultan · 9th June 2008, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Rahul

On the official website

09/06/2008 15:30Reds report Real to FIFA On 27 May,

Manchester United made clear its intention to report Real Madrid to FIFA if it continued to involve itself in the future of Cristiano Ronaldo.

Unfortunately, Real Madrid has not kept its own counsel and the Club feels it has no alternative but to make a formal complaint to the world governing body, which it has done today.

The precise content and nature will remain confidential.

Communications Department,
Manchester United Limited

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pa...newsid=6611277

Bad idea.

We should have just kept our own counsel - let Real spout all the rubbish they want. Anyway we've not actually been angels in our transfer dealings over the years.

Pogue Mahone · 9th June 2008, 17:34

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Originally Posted by buildabonfire

Hmmm - IIRC, he announced he wanted a move and said that there would be no problems over personal terms.

A charitable interpretation would be that he was ready to play for free; I think he knew, especially as he was pictured having a medical the day after England played at OT ages before he actually moved!

Anyway, that's not really the issue I suppose!

I don't think he was ready to play for free but I do think he knew there was a very good chance he was gonna get better paid at United than he was at Bayern. I mean, that was always gonna happen, to be fair.

Whatever, we certainly haven't been whiter than white in the past. If you ask me, this announcement - along with the "rot in the reserves" stuff - just shows how badly rattled we are by the whole thing. Which worries me

buildabonfire · 9th June 2008, 17:42

Yeah, agreed, I wasn't remotely worried until I heard the 'rot in the reserves' stuff.

IBleedRed · 9th June 2008, 18:13

cunts, hope they get whats coming to them

Raven_Blade · 9th June 2008, 18:17

At least FIFA will be made aware of our disgust at their actions. They had better do something about it.

ninja_alan · 9th June 2008, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Bad idea.

We should have just kept our own counsel - let Real spout all the rubbish they want. Anyway we've not actually been angels in our transfer dealings over the years.

Agreed. Let Madrid do what they're doing at the moment. It won't get them anywhere.

RedPhil1957 · 9th June 2008, 19:12

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Originally Posted by Nem 7

We're just as bad.

Bellion, Saha, Rooney, Hargreaves..

no we are not, Madrid are worse than any other club at the tapping up game and why mention Bellion or Rooney.

Keano1999 · 9th June 2008, 19:20

What are the available sanctions?

red2deadboy · 9th June 2008, 19:22

Be nice to see that fat fuck Blatter, or that garlic twat Platini do something constructive instead of laying into EPL. If Real don't get reprimanded then there is no point in clubs behaving as they will see there is no punishment. A points deduction or exclusion from the CL would make the fuckers listen.

Classy Cannon · 9th June 2008, 19:23

I can't see that we'd complain, unless we've got concrete evidence that can drop them right in the shit.

Just speculation, but it could be that it's not in the best interests of Rons agent to see him go to Madrid & he knows something that will help our case? Last time we took a stand over Obi Mikel it cost the renties a good few quid.

esmufc07 · 9th June 2008, 19:30

Hypocrisy at its finest if I'm being honest. We did the exact same thing with Hargreaves.

Keano1999 · 9th June 2008, 19:31

Our previous behavior should have no bearing as neither Bayern Munich or PSV reported us and we ended up doing deals with those clubs.

Forever Red · 9th June 2008, 19:33

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

Hypocrisy at its finest if I'm being honest. We did the exact same thing with Hargreaves.

No we didn't

esmufc07 · 9th June 2008, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Forever Red

No we didn't

OK

izzydiggler · 9th June 2008, 19:37

It's probably bollocks but the paper story about Real asking Ronaldo to go on strike is worthy of action against Madrid....one would think that Utd had evidence of something like that to warrant an official complaint, otherwise I see no benefit.

And in response to other people claiming Ronaldo is blameless in this, he could have stopped this very easily. By refusing to answer questions he's only fueled the rumours. Best case scenario is that he's just after more money, and even then it doesn't reflect well on Ronaldo.

Some of the vitriol against Ronaldo is over the top but in my opinion, even though it may hurt the team in the short term, I see no way that a lot of fans will welcome him back with affection. And as others have said, his price is probably the highest it will be. I'd ask him straight if he wanted to go and if so, sell at a ridiculous price.

Of course it's all speculation, but his constant refusal to clarify his future or correct printed "quotes" only fuels the rumours.....if we were reading that Gerrard wanted to go to Chelsea with the same quotes and Gerrard refusing to answer questions on it, we would all consider it viable. I think a lot of people are burying their heads in the sand!!

Kelvin · 9th June 2008, 19:39

Its all Ronaldo undoing for refusing to clarify his future.

Rooney gr8 · 9th June 2008, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Bad idea.

We should have just kept our own counsel - let Real spout all the rubbish they want. Anyway we've not actually been angels in our transfer dealings over the years.

why sultan?
they think they can take any player from us..should we just hope they dont?

Rooney gr8 · 9th June 2008, 21:04

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

Hypocrisy at its finest if I'm being honest. We did the exact same thing with Hargreaves.

how?
can you show the parrallels please?

Rooney gr8 · 9th June 2008, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Kelvin

Its all Ronaldo undoing for refusing to clarify his future.

why?
will he be less of a player for listening to his agent? for angling for the best wages played to a player in history?

remember rio refusing to sign? the stick he got...

Eto'odinho · 9th June 2008, 21:24

fa.p fa.p fa.p

Rooney gr8 · 9th June 2008, 21:29

but i do agree..
reporting will result in fuck all action against real Mad rid..unless they move to thev EPL.. then a points deduction maybe..

friendlytramp · 9th June 2008, 22:03

reported on 27th May, that was weeks ago...what happened on the 27th May?

MadDogg · 10th June 2008, 04:04

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

Hypocrisy at its finest if I'm being honest. We did the exact same thing with Hargreaves.

How was it the same?

We made a bid. Bayern was the one that made it public. We had a few quotes from Fergie and Gill that you would expect from a club trying to buy. A lot of quotes from Hargreaves himself trying to make it happen. Lots of media speculation. The transfer window closed. Over the next 12 months the media kept linking us, but our management made very few, if any, quotes about him. Most of what was said came from Hargreaves himself. Then the transfer window opened again and the usual stuff happened, culminating in him signing with us. Most of the stuff that came out during this time was from Hargreaves and Bayern themselves.

Whereas Real have been talking about Ronaldo for years, with their manager and president constantly saying that they want to sign him. They have a newspaper that they are linked with constantly print ridiculous stories about him and photoshop him into Real Madrid jerseys (this won't be part of our case against them though since it isn't the club itself). Far, far more official stuff is coming from their club, with a player who has been nowhere near as obvious about wanting to move. Indeed, everything he has said until the last week has indicated that he wouldn't want to move for a couple of seasons. All without once making a formal bid, and probably not even making a proper enquiry about him.

We're not saints here. But every single club, particularly the big ones, do exactly the same. Real Madrid go far further.

MadDogg · 10th June 2008, 04:10

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Originally Posted by izzydiggler

Of course it's all speculation, but his constant refusal to clarify his future or correct printed "quotes" only fuels the rumours.....if we were reading that Gerrard wanted to go to Chelsea with the same quotes and Gerrard refusing to answer questions on it, we would all consider it viable. I think a lot of people are burying their heads in the sand!!

I think a lot of it is because he is trying to stay away from the rumours while he's preparing for the Euro's. He probably isn't reading the papers, isn't looking at it on the internet or tv. So he probably isn't aware of all of rubbish coming out about him. He'd know the basics obviously, but probably only the official stuff that have come out from the two clubs. All the rumours and innuendo would likely be nothing but background noise that he's ignored.

9th June 2008, 17:18	#42 (permalink)
charleysurf Talks sense Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,275	I guess MARCA will have to come out and admit that their story about Ronaldo signing an agreement with Madrid was bullshit. Or their bosses at Real will be in trouble

9th June 2008, 17:30	#44 (permalink)
Rooney1987 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,063	Did Inter, juventus, Barca or Milan ever report Real to Fifa

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buildabonfire Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 938	Yeah, agreed, I wasn't remotely worried until I heard the 'rot in the reserves' stuff.

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IBleedRed likes to use pantyhose Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: apparently uses the term "limey" too much Posts: 4,016	cunts, hope they get whats coming to them

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Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Somewhere im not supposed to be. Posts: 16,257	At least FIFA will be made aware of our disgust at their actions. They had better do something about it.

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Keano1999 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,185	What are the available sanctions?

9th June 2008, 19:22	#53 (permalink)
red2deadboy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,045	Be nice to see that fat fuck Blatter, or that garlic twat Platini do something constructive instead of laying into EPL. If Real don't get reprimanded then there is no point in clubs behaving as they will see there is no punishment. A points deduction or exclusion from the CL would make the fuckers listen.

9th June 2008, 19:23	#54 (permalink)
Classy Cannon Left Back in the changing room Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,959	I can't see that we'd complain, unless we've got concrete evidence that can drop them right in the shit. Just speculation, but it could be that it's not in the best interests of Rons agent to see him go to Madrid & he knows something that will help our case? Last time we took a stand over Obi Mikel it cost the renties a good few quid.

9th June 2008, 19:30	#55 (permalink)
esmufc07 Smashed's bitch Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ex-Chairman of the all powerful and all conquering organistation - lolibfascon. Posts: 9,726	Hypocrisy at its finest if I'm being honest. We did the exact same thing with Hargreaves.

9th June 2008, 19:31	#56 (permalink)
Keano1999 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,185	Our previous behavior should have no bearing as neither Bayern Munich or PSV reported us and we ended up doing deals with those clubs.

9th June 2008, 19:37	#59 (permalink)
izzydiggler Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Outside Balague's bedroom door wearing a Michael Myers mask Posts: 815	It's probably bollocks but the paper story about Real asking Ronaldo to go on strike is worthy of action against Madrid....one would think that Utd had evidence of something like that to warrant an official complaint, otherwise I see no benefit. And in response to other people claiming Ronaldo is blameless in this, he could have stopped this very easily. By refusing to answer questions he's only fueled the rumours. Best case scenario is that he's just after more money, and even then it doesn't reflect well on Ronaldo. Some of the vitriol against Ronaldo is over the top but in my opinion, even though it may hurt the team in the short term, I see no way that a lot of fans will welcome him back with affection. And as others have said, his price is probably the highest it will be. I'd ask him straight if he wanted to go and if so, sell at a ridiculous price. Of course it's all speculation, but his constant refusal to clarify his future or correct printed "quotes" only fuels the rumours.....if we were reading that Gerrard wanted to go to Chelsea with the same quotes and Gerrard refusing to answer questions on it, we would *all* consider it viable. I think a lot of people are burying their heads in the sand!!

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Kelvin First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,977	Its all Ronaldo undoing for refusing to clarify his future.

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Eto'odinho Retard magnet Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cirith Ungol Posts: 8,794	fa.p fa.p fa.p

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Rooney gr8 campaigner for racial harmony Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The only requirement for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing! Posts: 2,216	but i do agree.. reporting will result in fuck all action against real Mad rid..unless they move to thev EPL.. then a points deduction maybe..

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friendlytramp Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: J Stand Posts: 1,161	reported on 27th May, that was weeks ago...what happened on the 27th May?