Right Wing German?

Rooney gr8 · 18th May 2008, 02:15

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Originally Posted by redpie

A 5 midfield of Ronaldo/Scholes/Carrick/Fletcher/Park would not surprise me with Rooney the lone striker and the usual defence.
I hope I am wrong because I think our best chance is to go for it with Tevez starting and the experience of Hargreaves in central midfield.

i think that will be choices for the second half..
fergie will want to see the game plan of the renties first,imno.

Ekeke · 18th May 2008, 02:15

Ronaldo and Evra on one wing is quite light defensively. I wouldn't like to see it vs. Essien and Cole.

On a good day we'd win the game on that flank, on a bad day we'd lose the game on that flank.

Mozza · 18th May 2008, 06:44

Evra is a better defender then Wes, Ronaldo will weaken defensively whatever flanks he plays, we can't be shoving him upfront for that reason however

KeyserSoze · 18th May 2008, 07:05

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Originally Posted by Mozza

Evra is a better defender then Wes, Ronaldo will weaken defensively whatever flanks he plays, we can't be shoving him upfront for that reason however

I dont think thats necessarily the case, the main problem full backs have is their opposite full back overlapping and exchanging places to make them lose their man. Ronaldo is going to be the focus of the defense and the full back on his side is going to be pressed back and not able to go forward at all. Chelsea will be scared of the counter attack.

Mozza · 18th May 2008, 07:10

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Originally Posted by Keyzer Soze

I dont think thats necassarily the case, the main problem full backs have is their opposite full back overlapping and exchanging places to make them lose their man. Ronaldo is going to be the focus of the defense and the full back on his side is going to be pressed back and not able to go forward at all. Chelsea will be scared of the counter attack.

That's sometimes true, we faced the same with Messi and Evra was, rightly, still charging forward, a brave team takes advantage of lazy defending from wingers

Ekeke · 18th May 2008, 11:46

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Originally Posted by Mozza

Evra is a better defender then Wes, Ronaldo will weaken defensively whatever flanks he plays, we can't be shoving him upfront for that reason however

Evra may be a better defender than Wes, but unless he's nailed to the floor - he'll make runs down the flank and if Ronaldo and Evra lose the ball between us them, we could easily get punished.

Brown has done sweet fuck all in terms of getting forward for the past few months when playing right back. For once it would pay off.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 19th May 2008, 13:45

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Originally Posted by REd FUn DevIl

When we try to play the same way they do we always ends drawing or losing.

We have to play our way and put them under pressure. Two strikers put pressure to their defence and that's when you get the best of Ronaldo. If you play 3 upfront then they put Ashley and a defensive midfielder covering Ronaldo and we end losing all our creation.

Even a 4-4-2 gives Cole a field day with Ronaldo. On top of ensuring we totally lose the midfield control battle. The two times we've beaten them at OT we have played 4-3-3/4-5-1. 4-4-3 is the only formation that can allows us to play Ronaldo, on the left, far away from Ashley Cole. On the one flank he would be able to do the most damage to Chelsea

jasonrh · 22nd May 2008, 00:56

Just call me Sir.

Mozza · 22nd May 2008, 00:57

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

Just call me Sir.

You can call me sir since I posted that team in a Wigan thread

AttackingFlair · 22nd May 2008, 01:00

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Even a 4-4-2 gives Cole a field day with Ronaldo. On top of ensuring we totally lose the midfield control battle. The two times we've beaten them at OT we have played 4-3-3/4-5-1. 4-4-3 is the only formation that can allows us to play Ronaldo, on the left, far away from Ashley Cole. On the one flank he would be able to do the most damage to Chelsea

Yeah.

Grande · 22nd May 2008, 01:03

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Originally Posted by Alex

Not involving Anderson would be idiotic in my opinion

It certainly would have!

REd FUn DevIl · 22nd May 2008, 01:08

Fergie was right again. The addition of Hargo was fundamental to win the champions league.

There you go lads. Fantastic work and the experience were fundamental.

Hargo you fecking beauty.

Ekeke · 22nd May 2008, 01:12

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

Ronaldo and Evra on one wing is quite light defensively. I wouldn't like to see it vs. Essien and Cole.

On a good day we'd win the game on that flank, on a bad day we'd lose the game on that flank.

Well, we won it

FlawlessThaw · 22nd May 2008, 01:14

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Originally Posted by FlawlessThaw

I agree with Jason's point on Hargreaves being on the right. Would love to see him play there with Ronaldo on the left attacking Essien at every opportunity. Can easily convert it 4-3-3 if needs be.

Also Hargreaves can play some of his lovely low crosses which hopefully Tevez, Rooney or Ronaldo can pounce on.

Nearly spot on

Whenever Ronaldo attacked Essien he was normally always on top

18th May 2008, 02:15	#42 (permalink)
Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,067	Ronaldo and Evra on one wing is quite light defensively. I wouldn't like to see it vs. Essien and Cole. On a good day we'd win the game on that flank, on a bad day we'd lose the game on that flank.

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REd FUn DevIl First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: I Love Sugarcult Posts: 12,127	Fergie was right again. The addition of Hargo was fundamental to win the champions league. There you go lads. Fantastic work and the experience were fundamental. Hargo you fecking beauty.