Rio Ferdinand - I hold my hands up - He is quality

Chorley1974 · 1st February 2008, 23:42

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Originally Posted by bazalini

Felt like that before But I have been turned over.

Class act on the field, leads the line and confident on the ball. Starting to pay back his transfer in bucket loads this and last season.

Deserves to be captain after Neville. Needs a word in his ear from time to time Christmas fiasco should never have happened

Keane was no angel when he was with Unied at the beginning.

I'm on the same page as you Baz, I think he has redeemed himself. The missing piss test rankles less after a couple of good seasons. My only issue is that he continued to pick up full wages after the drugs test incident, even if has given something back a % to the club, charity, or fans he would by now be of an even higher stature.

acnumber9 · 2nd February 2008, 00:05

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Originally Posted by Chorley1974

I'm on the same page as you Baz, I think he has redeemed himself. The missing piss test rankles less after a couple of good seasons. My only issue is that he continued to pick up full wages after the drugs test incident, even if has given something back a % to the club, charity, or fans he would by now be of an even higher stature.

Ferdinand does plenty of good work for charidee. Ultimately whether he is or isn't a cock is not the issue, he's a great leader on the pitch and he's currently the best man for the job. Giggs is a great player but he's a poor captain. I domn't think Ferdinand will get the band this season but if the inevitable does happen and Gary Neville were to retire in the summer then I believe Ferdinand will be named as the new captain. The fact he seems to be one of the most popular players in the dressing room would suggest he's not as big a dick as people make out.

mosesfromtala · 2nd February 2008, 00:15

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

You sound like a load of 8 year-old girls on a West Life forum, arguing about their favourite member of the "band", when you all start talking about whether or not you like someone's personality. Who gives a fuck? Seriously?

nobody gives a fuck deep down, but this is a forum about united, and Lynott got abused for saying he didn't like Rio. Rio is a super footballer, nobody disagrees but these days we are privvy to a little bit of who they are and Rio hasn't come across quite as good as he could have off the pitch. The game and the celebrities who play it are rammed down our throats so we're bound to formulate some opinion. To be abused for voicing it just because it may be anti-united in some perverse way is stupid.

GusHiddink · 2nd February 2008, 00:19

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Originally Posted by bazalini

Had an issue with the Transfer fee and his bad boy rapper image when he first arived. But I think he has been as solid as solid could be over the last 2 1/2 seasons

Credit - forget about the Christmas Party and the drug testing issue, I think he is worthy of the captain's Armband and has dispalyed all the qualities needed on the field to be very good at it.

Himself, Vidic, Evra and Brown are the best Back line in the premiership and unlike previous seasons oozes confidence.

well done lad

GusHiddink · 2nd February 2008, 00:25

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Originally Posted by bazalini

Felt like that before But I have been turned over.

Class act on the field, leads the line and confident on the ball. Starting to pay back his transfer in bucket loads this and last season.

Deserves to be captain after Neville. Needs a word in his ear from time to time Christmas fiasco should never have happened

Keane was no angel when he was with Unied at the beginning.

Keane was no angel in the middle or end either!!

Its always been double standards with utd fans. They get it into their skulls to warm to a player or not and then from there that decides what the player can get away with.

roy holds the club to randsom he's doing it for the good of the club, he's standing up for what he's worth etc etc..rio does it...he's a greedy bastard, flash git etc etc.

cantona kicks a fan resulting in a lengthy suspension..fans fault, deserved it etc etc rio misses a drugs test gets a ridiculous ban stupid cnut etc etc

the list is endless. wayne rooney gets away with acting like a total and utter bellend 50% of the time because he's wayne rooney.

Always been the way. But even for those nuggets out there they have to admit rio's performances merit the accolade even if the dislike his Perceived personality

Name Changed · 2nd February 2008, 00:52

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Originally Posted by Solius89

Bell end, he's probably the best defender in the world, quite funny too in his post match interviews.

He is nowhere near the best defender in the world. He is lost without Vidic. Vidic is twice the player...

heightmassive · 2nd February 2008, 00:55

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Originally Posted by weso26

He is nowhere near the best defender in the world. He is lost without Vidic. Vidic is twice the player...

WUM.

Alan Green also thinks he's shit.

Name Changed · 2nd February 2008, 00:58

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Originally Posted by heightmassive

WUM.

Alan Green also thinks he's shit.

I don't think he is shit. I just don't think he wins enough tackles, wins enough headers and commands the back line to be considered the best player in the world though.

heightmassive · 2nd February 2008, 01:03

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Originally Posted by weso26

I don't think he is shit. I just don't think he wins enough tackles, wins enough headers and commands the back line to be considered the best player in the world though.

He's immense and has been for years.

I find it hard to argue with someone that doesn't rate him, it's ridiculous.

To say Vidic is twice the player is a bit silly, they're chalk and cheese it's Bruce and Pallister all over again, just enjoy it while it lasts.

Name Changed · 2nd February 2008, 01:08

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Originally Posted by heightmassive

He's immense and has been for years.

I find it hard to argue with someone that doesn't rate him, it's ridiculous.

To say Vidic is twice the player is a bit silly, they're chalk and cheese it's Bruce and Pallister all over again, just enjoy it while it lasts.

I'm not saying that. I do rate him, a lot. I just think Vidic is the real rock there. You can see when Brown played with Ferdinand last week and Rio was all over the place. Brown wasn't winning as many balls as Vidic does so Rio was under more pressure, and it showed.

I do think Rio is class, but I just rate Vidic better, thats all..

Wes · 2nd February 2008, 01:12

Vidic never convinces me as much as Ferdinand does, its just Vidic makes it his business to attack every single ball that comes in his direction..

But Ferdinand is the complete defender. The reason we win games comes from Ferdinand and his organisation, and his pace. The ability to play as high up the pitch as we do.

ZIDANE · 2nd February 2008, 01:30

He scored a winner against Liverpool. Brap! Brap!

roonaldo78 · 2nd February 2008, 01:41

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Originally Posted by weso26

I don't think he is shit. I just don't think he wins enough tackles, wins enough headers and commands the back line to be considered the best player in the world though.

Wins enough tackles? A player like Rio doesn't need to put in last minute tackles because his positional sense and reading of the game is excellent. Together with these attributes and his pace he wins the ball without having to put too many tackles. I bet you also rate Terry above Rio.

Rio wins enough headers and commands the back line more than Vidic. He is the leader in the defence and many people only realise the importance of him when he's not in the team. At the moment Vidic needs Rio more than Rio needing Vidic.

Saying that the partnership between these two is perfect as they compliment each other quite well.

Count Duckula · 2nd February 2008, 01:49

I actually quite like Rio's personality, as far as I am able to tell what it's like. The times I've seen him interviewed, he's seemed a bit of a laugh, making the odd joke. Always makes me smile. And, yeh, he fucked up, but he's definitely a reformed character and I actually think he loves the club now. There's definitely more passion in him.

As someone pointed out -- it's unlikely he'd be the most popular figure in the dressing room if he were a total cock. And those World Cup windups were actually quite funny, no matter what people say.

mjdj · 2nd February 2008, 04:18

When Rio and Vidic have played together in all competitions we have conceded just 11 goals all season.

Just ridiculous stuff considering we are into February.

Ferguson · 2nd February 2008, 06:25

I've come to believe that for some fans it is all about the haircut.

We've had people complaining about Anderson's hair recently.

Before when Rio had long hair, people thought he lacked concentration.

Now that he has a proper football haircut he should be captain.

It must be an English thing.

Oh, and I've always rated Rio and think his personality is just fine.

Julian Denny · 2nd February 2008, 07:56

I've said all along Rio should be captain. This business of swopping armbands with Ryan is ridiculous. I don't know what Gary's future is and when or if he'll return but I'd make Rio club captain right now. He is a great player, something which at last is universally acknowledged, he is demonstrative and has leadership qualities.

golden_blunder · 13th May 2008, 16:03

he's made me eat my words too. no better around now.

Red For Ever · 13th May 2008, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Lynott

Dislike him intensely and don't think I will ever like the guy. Hate seeing him with the armband. Class A wanker.

Over the top by a country mile

Man-United · 13th May 2008, 16:06

Sorry golden. Will post my thoughts here about Rio.

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At last, he get the credit he deserves. Rio's in most of the experts "team of the season" and has been quite fantastic for us ever since he came back from the suspension. His debut season was a little hesitant, but we still won the league that year.
He was fantastic in autumn 2003 before he got suspended for 8 months.
Would say that he has been the world's best central defender two seasons in a row now, and was also brilliant in 2005/2006.

Among non United fans most of them think or thought he was overrated, but more recently many have mentioned him as one of the world's best defenders, although many who are critical of Rio raises his "lack of concentration" but I think it's exaggerated to a great extent that he has problems with concentration.

I am so pleased that Rio Ferdinand is playing at United and hopefully he is playing for many more years at this club.

Fantastic footballer and he has really matured on and off the pitch, great leader and a future Manchester United captain.

Elliott · 13th May 2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Lynott

Dislike him intensely and don't think I will ever like the guy. Hate seeing him with the armband. Class A wanker.

Was he banned for this?

FlawlessThaw · 13th May 2008, 16:12

Best defender in the world.

Spoonatov · 13th May 2008, 16:35

As good as any CB I've seen. He's that good.

afrocentricity · 13th May 2008, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Red For Ever

Over the top by a country mile

Always makes me chuckle, how can you have such a dislike for someone you don't even know? Women are like that though, no offence women... my missus is like that anyway.

kanchelskis14 · 13th May 2008, 16:40

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Originally Posted by bazalini

Had an issue with the Transfer fee and his bad boy rapper image when he first arived. But I think he has been as solid as solid could be over the last 2 1/2 seasons

Credit - forget about the Christmas Party and the drug testing issue, I think he is worthy of the captain's Armband and has dispalyed all the qualities needed on the field to be very good at it.

Himself, Vidic, Evra and Brown are the best Back line in the premiership and unlike previous seasons oozes confidence.

I take it you haven't come close to encountering an actual 'bad boy rapper' then. It takes a lot more than just wearing a hooded top, Rio is miles away from being anything like one of those.

KeyserSoze · 13th May 2008, 16:41

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Originally Posted by bazalini

Had an issue with the Transfer fee and his bad boy rapper image when he first arived.

Whats all this about a bad boy rapper image or his hair that is a load of crap. I remember when Beckham had plaits on his head i thought he looked stupid but he did not affect how i thought of him as a player. Him using words such as Brap or Merked does not mean he is a knobhead or thinks he is a gangsta he can say what he wants. The only mistake he has ever made in my mind is the drug test and he came back a better player after it.

Raven_Blade · 13th May 2008, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Spoonez el Grande

As good as any CB I've seen. He's that good.

If you say so, then I must believe it. You are quite a lot older than I am.

afrocentricity · 13th May 2008, 16:48

I think Spoony is around 107? definately the wisest poster in here....

CantonaVeron · 13th May 2008, 17:52

Great player is Rio was very pleased when we signed him, in fact we should have signed him earlier as it was obvious he was going to be great. The defence misses him immensley when he nots there which shows just how important he is. It is amazing how easy he makes the game look, he defends, leads and is comfortable on the ball what more can you ask of a centre back? wrld class he is and hopefully he can go on at that level for another 5 years plus. I think alot of the off the field stuff is overblown if you read is autobiography you can tell he is a decent person who is a bit forgetful but there is nothing wrong with that.

2nd February 2008, 01:12	#51 (permalink)
Wes Brown is no God Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dublin, in the Irish Republic Posts: 7,712	Vidic never convinces me as much as Ferdinand does, its just Vidic makes it his business to attack every single ball that comes in his direction.. But Ferdinand is the complete defender. The reason we win games comes from Ferdinand and his organisation, and his pace. The ability to play as high up the pitch as we do.

2nd February 2008, 01:30	#52 (permalink)
ZIDANE Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: "..undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation." Zizou on Scholes Posts: 4,904	He scored a winner against Liverpool. Brap! Brap!

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Count Duckula First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In the corner, losing my religion. Posts: 5,828	I actually quite like Rio's personality, as far as I am able to tell what it's like. The times I've seen him interviewed, he's seemed a bit of a laugh, making the odd joke. Always makes me smile. And, yeh, he fucked up, but he's definitely a reformed character and I actually think he loves the club now. There's definitely more passion in him. As someone pointed out -- it's unlikely he'd be the most popular figure in the dressing room if he were a total cock. And those World Cup windups were actually quite funny, no matter what people say.

2nd February 2008, 04:18	#55 (permalink)
mjdj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 810	When Rio and Vidic have played together in all competitions we have conceded just 11 goals all season. Just ridiculous stuff considering we are into February.

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Ferguson Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 1,759	I've come to believe that for some fans it is all about the haircut. We've had people complaining about Anderson's hair recently. Before when Rio had long hair, people thought he lacked concentration. Now that he has a proper football haircut he should be captain. It must be an English thing. Oh, and I've always rated Rio and think his personality is just fine.

2nd February 2008, 07:56	#57 (permalink)
Julian Denny Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South Africa Posts: 3,430	I've said all along Rio should be captain. This business of swopping armbands with Ryan is ridiculous. I don't know what Gary's future is and when or if he'll return but I'd make Rio club captain right now. He is a great player, something which at last is universally acknowledged, he is demonstrative and has leadership qualities.

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golden_blunder Manager Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Swimming against a tide of shite Posts: 44,473	he's made me eat my words too. no better around now.

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Man-United Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,267	Sorry golden. Will post my thoughts here about Rio. ------------------------------------- At last, he get the credit he deserves. Rio's in most of the experts "team of the season" and has been quite fantastic for us ever since he came back from the suspension. His debut season was a little hesitant, but we still won the league that year. He was fantastic in autumn 2003 before he got suspended for 8 months. Would say that he has been the world's best central defender two seasons in a row now, and was also brilliant in 2005/2006. Among non United fans most of them think or thought he was overrated, but more recently many have mentioned him as one of the world's best defenders, although many who are critical of Rio raises his "lack of concentration" but I think it's exaggerated to a great extent that he has problems with concentration. I am so pleased that Rio Ferdinand is playing at United and hopefully he is playing for many more years at this club. Fantastic footballer and he has really matured on and off the pitch, great leader and a future Manchester United captain.

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FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 9,469	Best defender in the world.

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Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,958	As good as any CB I've seen. He's that good.

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afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 6,951	I think Spoony is around 107? definately the wisest poster in here....

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CantonaVeron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,998	Great player is Rio was very pleased when we signed him, in fact we should have signed him earlier as it was obvious he was going to be great. The defence misses him immensley when he nots there which shows just how important he is. It is amazing how easy he makes the game look, he defends, leads and is comfortable on the ball what more can you ask of a centre back? wrld class he is and hopefully he can go on at that level for another 5 years plus. I think alot of the off the field stuff is overblown if you read is autobiography you can tell he is a decent person who is a bit forgetful but there is nothing wrong with that.