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Old 14th January 2013, 09:57   #6281 (permalink)
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He's pure class. Got that touch of magic and won us so many points this season it's ridiculous. I feel horrible for questioning whether we need him or not
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Old 14th January 2013, 10:02   #6282 (permalink)
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Today the commentator made what I thought was a very good point.

He said that since RvP started playing as the main striker (ie the beginning of last season for Arsenal) he hasn't been injured. He hinted that its no coincidence because he's playing in a smaller portion of the pitch - therefore not running around so much - and it's easier to avoid injury.

He featured in all 38 of Arsenals PL games last season and unless I'm blanking, has featured in all of ours so far this season.

What do you think, is he on to something?
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Old 14th January 2013, 10:09   #6283 (permalink)
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Rest him on Wednesday, and then unleash his pure quality against his former local rivals.
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Old 14th January 2013, 10:14   #6284 (permalink)
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He's the game changing superstar we've missed since Ronaldo left. You always get the feeling that no matter how poor we play, if he's on the pitch then something can happen.
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Old 14th January 2013, 10:55   #6285 (permalink)
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Today the commentator made what I thought was a very good point.

He said that since RvP started playing as the main striker (ie the beginning of last season for Arsenal) he hasn't been injured. He hinted that its no coincidence because he's playing in a smaller portion of the pitch - therefore not running around so much - and it's easier to avoid injury.

He featured in all 38 of Arsenals PL games last season and unless I'm blanking, has featured in all of ours so far this season.

What do you think, is he on to something?
I don't know how much that has to do with it to be honest, I was under the impression that he stopped picking up injuries when he switched from the Arsenal medical team to the Dutch physios on a permanent basis. No slight on the Arsenal medical team by the way, but maybe the Dutch team had a different type of treatment that was more appropriate for the player, maybe he stopped growing very late (some people have small growing spurts til their mid 20s which could be a bit of an annoyance for an athlete), who knows.

However, I'm not quite sure of this, I mean I know I'm not making it up, I think I heard it on French TV a while ago, if anyone can confirm it...
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Old 14th January 2013, 10:57   #6286 (permalink)
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van Persie was never injury prone, he just had very bad luck with injuries.
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Old 14th January 2013, 11:07   #6287 (permalink)
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van Persie was never injury prone, he just had very bad luck with injuries.
Indeed. Most of his injuries were impact injuries, not muscular.
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Old 14th January 2013, 16:00   #6288 (permalink)
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Injuries are my only worry about Van Persie, literally with everything else he's been superb. Looking at his career with Arsenal, though, you could be on to something that since he's changed his role to an out-and-out striker he's become a lot less injury-prone. It'd certainly mean he'd cover less ground.

That's only speculation though. If he gets injured that would be the worst thing for our team right now.
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Old 14th January 2013, 16:12   #6289 (permalink)
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Looking at his career with Arsenal, though, you could be on to something that since he's changed his role to an out-and-out striker he's become a lot less injury-prone. It'd certainly mean he'd cover less ground.

That's only speculation though. If he gets injured that would be the worst thing for our team right now.
Wild wild speculation my dear, speculation that I choose to contest, it is quite clear that he has been touched by God.
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Old 14th January 2013, 16:18   #6290 (permalink)
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I'm not particularly worried about injuries when it comes to van Persie, the last two seasons he hasn't missed a League game and even if he broke down now and didn't play for us again this season, we've got Rooney coming back who can score at a similar rate if required. The only real worry would be if they both broke down at the same time, and even then we've some pretty good options.
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Old 14th January 2013, 19:24   #6292 (permalink)
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I don't think it's got anything to do with the way he became a true striker, his fitness I mean.Look at Messi for instance, he was injury prone in his early years but up to a point (the season they won the treble) he has been amazingly fit.
Sometimes it's just luck/bad luck, it's too much of a wild guess IMHO
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Old 15th January 2013, 09:38   #6293 (permalink)
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Old 15th January 2013, 09:41   #6294 (permalink)
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I don't think it's got anything to do with the way he became a true striker, his fitness I mean.Look at Messi for instance, he was injury prone in his early years but up to a point (the season they won the treble) he has been amazingly fit.
Sometimes it's just luck/bad luck, it's too much of a wild guess IMHO
I went to see a Barca game and Messi basically just walked around the pitch apart from when he had the ball. I think that's why he never gets injured more than anything else.
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Old 15th January 2013, 09:44   #6295 (permalink)
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His ability to deliever a dead ball is terrific. Look at what a difference he has made. We actually look dangerous and score tons of goals on corners and free kicks. Suddenly we've got defenders scoring regularly and he is a huge part in that, we just added a dimension we were lacking in recent years.
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Old 15th January 2013, 09:59   #6297 (permalink)
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The thought of him getting injured, made me cringe every time he scored a goal and then any player started climbing over him.
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Old 15th January 2013, 13:48   #6298 (permalink)
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I went to see a Barca game and Messi basically just walked around the pitch apart from when he had the ball. I think that's why he never gets injured more than anything else.
Yeah and that despite many tackles he receives each games.
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Old 16th January 2013, 09:54   #6299 (permalink)
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Old 16th January 2013, 09:56   #6300 (permalink)
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I still prefer Cantona's, he gets on his tip toes watching it trying to almost affect the flight of the ball telekinetically Still good spot though
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Old 16th January 2013, 10:08   #6301 (permalink)
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RVP's finish is better for me on the basis it's done with his "weaker" foot but at the same time Canto did a lot of work prior to the goal in terms of build up.
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Old 16th January 2013, 10:29   #6302 (permalink)
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RVP's finish is better for me on the basis it's done with his "weaker" foot but at the same time did a lot of work prior to the goal in terms of build up.
Not sure you can call his finish better when it doesn't go in. That's sort of the point. Fantastic skill though...
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Old 16th January 2013, 10:50   #6303 (permalink)
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How about Cole's finish here? Starts around 1:11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTEYwPWqrG4

Brilliant. Also, just watch the video, he scored some good looking goals.
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Old 16th January 2013, 11:20   #6304 (permalink)
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Fuck me that Cole overhead was amazing. Also perfect example to young wingers at the end with Giggs going about 50 yards with his head up looking around.
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Old 16th January 2013, 11:36   #6305 (permalink)
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Not sure you can call his finish better when it doesn't go in. That's sort of the point. Fantastic skill though...
Yeah wrong word, you knew what I meant anyway ..
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Old 16th January 2013, 12:27   #6307 (permalink)
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Old 17th January 2013, 12:30   #6308 (permalink)
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He gives us so much more than just goals. For example, look at how perfectly placed this free-kick is; too far away for the 'keeper to deal with it, and yet so close to the attackers that virtually any contact might lead to a goal:

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Van Persie is 'the best forward ever', says Dortmund boss Jurgen Klopp:

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Old 17th January 2013, 13:03   #6310 (permalink)
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He gives us so much more than just goals. For example, look at how perfectly placed this free-kick is; too far away for the 'keeper to deal with it, and yet so close to the attackers that virtually any contact might lead to a goal:

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Just realised how much space Liverpool gave Kagawa and Cleverley next to Van Persie. He could have quite easily slipped that to either player to have a free shot on goal.

Doesn't matter of course, because it really was a sublime cross from Robin.
I reckon he'll be on top form against Spurs - he'd probably want to make Arsenal fans like him a bit and the only way he's going to do that while at United is to destroy their local rivals.
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Watching the game yesterday, I can't imagine going back without van Persie as our striker. We've been so spoiled with him, our attack of Rooney - Hernandez just look so much less potent (although they're still very good forwards).

Now I can understand the feeling of those gooners, seeing how Podolski, Walcott, and Giroud fluffing their chances after chances against Swansea (but to be fair, Vorm was in the form of his life).
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He is as clinical as they get. Have we had a player like this before? I remember Ruud, but even he needed chances before he put some away.
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He is as clinical as they get. Have we had a player like this before? I remember Ruud, but even he needed chances before he put some away.
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Old 20th January 2013, 16:37   #6314 (permalink)
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He's just so incredibly good.
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Old 20th January 2013, 16:45   #6315 (permalink)
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He is as clinical as they get. Have we had a player like this before? I remember Ruud, but even he needed chances before he put some away.
Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro.
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Old 20th January 2013, 16:47   #6316 (permalink)
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Old 20th January 2013, 16:49   #6317 (permalink)
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Anyone else see a picture of him in an Arsenal shirt and think that's all wrong!
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Old 20th January 2013, 16:50   #6318 (permalink)
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Old 20th January 2013, 16:50   #6319 (permalink)
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Old 20th January 2013, 16:51   #6320 (permalink)
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He is as clinical as they get. Have we had a player like this before? I remember Ruud, but even he needed chances before he put some away.
Ruud van Nistelrooy was one of the most clinical strikers I've ever seen. He certainly didn't need lots of chances to score, he was an absolute beast in front of goal.
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