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Old 17th May 2008, 10:00   #1 (permalink)
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Ronaldo a win/win situation.

Well here we go same old Madrid singing the overtures again.

Well let's see Ronnie has a contract for 5 years, he is a prize asset is something special theres no one in the world like him right now. The next best thing since Best. He does things with the ball that make Ronaldhino look tame. He is a genius lets face it the guy will most probably go on and be rated up there with the aforementioned Best, Pele etc.

So those comments, well lets face facts maybe he does want to play in Spain and who can blame him? He is young ambitious his home country is just over the border. If Madrid want to pay him £200,000 a week then he is probably worth it in this money driven game because they will get it back two fold from merchadising. Madrid are a big club 2nd to us of course because we are not corrupt. They will always be linked with the top players and will always be favorites for the latin quarter players because of the climate lifestyle etc.

So I conclude his contract is a long one why would United sell? Even the Glazer's know he is a cash cow and although I can't stand the fact they plunged the club into debt they aren't about to sell the golden goose at just 23.

So Ronaldo to leave? only way would be via a transfer request or if SAF believes he isn't going to play 100% any more just like others have left ie Beckham. I really can't see him shafting SAF or Querioz like that his fellow country man Nani, we have a really latin quality to the team now with Tevez, Anderson etc. Its reported that we are looking at Veloso as well, another fellow portugese player. Everything is geared up to him staying long term.

Heres the win/win he stays glory to Ronaldo at United for at least 3-4 years to come. If he leaves well no worries thanks for the memories we cash in for a gazillion euros of Madrid's tainted cash. It wouldn't be the end far from it other greats have come and gone. It means we buy another winger and although there's not another player like him in the world there are pacey skillful players who take the berth on the right or left.

Sign another striker in the mold of Berbatov and we would still be good for my money to kick Chelski's and Le Arse & challenge in europe. We still have the emerging Nani & Anderson and with focal point no longer being Ronaldo we would have Rooney and Tevez left with more space and time on the ball to do there thing. There have been times this season where I personally felt they shinned when Ronaldo was rested etc.

So for me we can't loose Ronaldo goes Ronaldo stays. This is United the Club has always been and always will be bigger than the players.
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Old 17th May 2008, 10:18   #2 (permalink)
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As long as fergie is in charge Ronaldo will never leave. He would rather let him leave on a free than sell him. That has always been his policy we aren't a selling club.
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Old 17th May 2008, 10:42   #3 (permalink)
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While SAF is seen as untouchable, and the last word on everything at the club, the Glazer's won't allow the first player whose transfer fee could be close to the £100m mark, to walk away for nothing. Selling club we may not be, but neither are we fools. The sums of money are too vast to persevere with an unhappy player, and lose a potential windfall in the bargain.
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Old 17th May 2008, 10:45   #4 (permalink)
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He isn't unhappy, he already stated he be happy to stay as well.
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Old 17th May 2008, 10:48   #5 (permalink)
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He isn't unhappy, he already stated he be happy to stay as well.
Nah, I just meant IF he is unhappy or wants a move.
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:03   #6 (permalink)
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Are we gonna have so many of such threads every time Real Motherfuckers come out with their shit?

He's not leaving and that's that. Try to understand him or put yourself in his shoes. He's already said that he's staying thousands of time. What will you do if 50 different people ask you the same question everyday? Will you just say fuck it yes I'm leaving to join Real soon since they refuse to take no for an answer?

It like a girl asking "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No"

Yes! Now I fucking mad!
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:19   #7 (permalink)
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Are we gonna have so many of such threads every time Real Motherfuckers come out with their shit?

He's not leaving and that's that. Try to understand him or put yourself in his shoes. He's already said that he's staying thousands of time. What will you do if 50 different people ask you the same question everyday? Will you just say fuck it yes I'm leaving to join Real soon since they refuse to take no for an answer?

It like a girl asking "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No" "Are you mad at me?" "No"

Yes! Now I fucking mad!
That's what I thought to, Ronaldo must be as sick and tired of it as we are. That's why I highlighted the fact that the club has everything set up to keep him long term. I just wanted to point out that even if he were to leave though, which I am 100% sure he wont, we are still quids in.
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:28   #8 (permalink)
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That's what I thought to, Ronaldo must be as sick and tired of it as we are.
If i were Ronny and i was sick and tired of the speculation i would just say...

"I refuse to comment any further on this matter"

Not unless i wanted to keep interest alive.
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:30   #9 (permalink)
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He'll sign a new contract in the next 3 weeks. That it my prediction.
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:32   #10 (permalink)
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If i were Ronny and i was sick and tired of the speculation i would just say...

"I refuse to comment any further on this matter"

Not unless i wanted to keep interest alive.
No offense but that would stop nothing. They would still rehash his comments and real would still tap him up. The only way to stop the daily stuff is for uefa to do their fucking job to be frank and protect clubs

But look the media need to print something. the truth has never been that high up the agenda with those cnuts so we just have to live with it cause no sod is about to take some responsibility
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If i were Ronny and i was sick and tired of the speculation i would just say...

"I refuse to comment any further on this matter"

Not unless i wanted to keep interest alive.
He's said that repeatedly this past few weeks - mostly to the Spanish press, who describe it as "refusing to deny rumours."

Every now and again, having been asked it umpteen times, he snaps - as he did with Sky News. But look at what he's actually said.
- Playing in Spain's a dream, but one that he might not want in reality.
- He's flattered by the attention (Well, doh - imagine Ron liking that!) but likes playing for United
- Only God knows the future.

He's been saying the same things for the past two years. A couple of years ago it looked like he was on his way out; he probably thought he was on his way out - lousy season off the field and a lot of United fans still cynical about him on it and we know what happened next. Ever since he came back he's been telling the same story in almost exactly the same words.

Sure it'd be nice if he changed the story. Even to a lie but he says his worst characteristic is stubborness and he's stubborn about this. He probably told his mum exactly the same story after she appeared on Spanish tele saying she'd like to see him playing in Madrid white before she dies - yeah, mum -that's my dream too, but I'm happy at United.

In other news, this is ruining Real's shopping plans. For all the, "We can afford him," speeches they'll have to save their pennies if they're serious about landing a big one.
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Old 17th May 2008, 12:46   #12 (permalink)
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Its in Ronaldo's interest to keep speculation alive. That will keep us the money men at OT on their toes.
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Old 17th May 2008, 13:54   #13 (permalink)
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At the end of the day he works for his old day

Stop being a persecuting cnuts, remember what most of you told him during 2006?

Thank goodness he's not making this as a payback
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Old 17th May 2008, 14:15   #14 (permalink)
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yup...its about how much money he can get in his new contract...well good luck to the lad....I mean why should not the best player in the world be paid the biggest paycheck...

And he is at the biggest club in the world....

cant wait for Wednesday and on to all the transfer muppetry...
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Old 17th May 2008, 14:19   #15 (permalink)
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Old 17th May 2008, 14:24   #16 (permalink)
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Well here we go same old Madrid singing the overtures again.

Well let's see Ronnie has a contract for 5 years, he is a prize asset is something special theres no one in the world like him right now. The next best thing since Best. He does things with the ball that make Ronaldhino look tame. He is a genius lets face it the guy will most probably go on and be rated up there with the aforementioned Best, Pele etc.

So those comments, well lets face facts maybe he does want to play in Spain and who can blame him? He is young ambitious his home country is just over the border. If Madrid want to pay him £200,000 a week then he is probably worth it in this money driven game because they will get it back two fold from merchadising. Madrid are a big club 2nd to us of course because we are not corrupt. They will always be linked with the top players and will always be favorites for the latin quarter players because of the climate lifestyle etc.

So I conclude his contract is a long one why would United sell? Even the Glazer's know he is a cash cow and although I can't stand the fact they plunged the club into debt they aren't about to sell the golden goose at just 23.

So Ronaldo to leave? only way would be via a transfer request or if SAF believes he isn't going to play 100% any more just like others have left ie Beckham. I really can't see him shafting SAF or Querioz like that his fellow country man Nani, we have a really latin quality to the team now with Tevez, Anderson etc. Its reported that we are looking at Veloso as well, another fellow portugese player. Everything is geared up to him staying long term.

Heres the win/win he stays glory to Ronaldo at United for at least 3-4 years to come. If he leaves well no worries thanks for the memories we cash in for a gazillion euros of Madrid's tainted cash. It wouldn't be the end far from it other greats have come and gone. It means we buy another winger and although there's not another player like him in the world there are pacey skillful players who take the berth on the right or left.

Sign another striker in the mold of Berbatov and we would still be good for my money to kick Chelski's and Le Arse & challenge in europe. We still have the emerging Nani & Anderson and with focal point no longer being Ronaldo we would have Rooney and Tevez left with more space and time on the ball to do there thing. There have been times this season where I personally felt they shinned when Ronaldo was rested etc.

So for me we can't loose Ronaldo goes Ronaldo stays. This is United the Club has always been and always will be bigger than the players.
This pleases me, the quality of the post (not that I agree or not).
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Old 17th May 2008, 15:34   #17 (permalink)
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I believe Ronaldo will show loyalty to those who have made him the player he is today.
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Old 17th May 2008, 15:42   #18 (permalink)
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It's not a win/win situation. If he leaves, we'll be worse off than if he stayed, so it's a win/lose situation.

Many will do their best to prove that his exit is for the best, but they'll be wrong.
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Old 17th May 2008, 16:02   #19 (permalink)
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Having said that, I've been making my own attempts to find positives should Ronaldo leave.

First, Rooney seems to play better when Ronaldo isn't around. I can't for the life of me find a plausible explanation for this, and I suspect it may have just been coincidence in the past. Second, and this isn't even really a reason, I don't like him that much. I like him because he's absurdly good. But the size of the discrepancy between how much I like him and how good he actually is says something to me.

But however you dress it up, if Ronaldo leaves, we'll bring in an inferior player, and will be significantly worse off next season.
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