Rooney and his penalties

Sean_RedDevil

Rooney deserves another chance imo but if he misses the next one again then his time from the spot should be over.........his record isn't good enough.

Young is very good at penalties.

Snow

He's not got a very good plan to take penalties. They are too often in a comfortable height for the keeper. Doesn't matter how hard you hit it if it isn't high or low enough.

I don't get some of these WC players who got confidence and ability. Down in the corner or up in the corner. They should be able to do that. Hell, Lauren almost never blew it for Arsenal and he just hit it in the middle every time. Not hard at all because if you hit to hard in the middle the goalie might save it unintentionally.

Set pieces isn't a major that many players take in the Manchester United academy. We don't seem to buy players who graduated with a degree in it either.

NextSeason

So you are determining who takes penalties for us by one penalty kick..

Damien1990

We do have quite a few players good at taking penalties. Valencia is a bit of a strange mention in that article though, can't really remember him taking one.

From the way the article was written (not a surprise it's a DM one), they're trying to make more of a point that Rooney and Fergie aren't having a good relationship at the moment rather than the issue of the penalty taker.

charlenefan

Really wish we'd seen enough of RVP at the time

The Neviller

So if we get a penalty tomorrow, and Rooney misses it, then we get one next week against the filth, who do you suggest should take it, since Young is unlikely to be fit?

Rooney wasn't bad at taking penalties when he scored against West Ham to complete his hattrick and an important comeback, nor when he clinched the title with one against Blackburn. I'd rather have him take an important penalty than any other player in our team.

Damien1990

We do have a lot of able penalty takers in our squad, but even with his record recently I'd rather he take them too.

apotheosis

Tbf to Rooney it was a fantastic save by Bogdan last week. It may have been a decent height for the keeper, but there was plenty behind it and it was right in the corner! Credit to the keeper for a great save in that instance in my view.

I would probably stick with Rooney for now, but if there was an outstanding candidate to take the pens, then i would probably give them a go. But it's a bit like our free kicks, we have plenty of people capable of taking a decent one, but no real specialist. Nani, Young, Giggs are all candidates but none of those would really fill me with confidence either.

Give Rooney one more and if he misses it, then it'll become too much of a headline and someone else should maybe take the next one.

kietotheworld

His record on penalties has never been good, as I remember, even before he became our regular, I believe it was 50%, albeit from only a few penalties.

Snow

Who are you referring to as 'you' and why do you say based on one penalty kick when this year he missed a pen two games in a row and hasn't got the best record of converting them in the past.

cj4_elmo

Nani.

Gazza

Carrick is good at them but for some reason his saved penalty at Burnley was fairly feeble, at a time we needed a goal.

I'd go with Nani. I'm relieved more than anything when Rooney scores them.

Kid Cunto

We havn't had a penalty taker I was 100% confident in since Ruud, you just knew it'd be a goal.

GingerPrince11

Ronaldo?

I only remember him missing 3 times, one in the CL final, Barca semi-finals and once in the league, west ham?

Kid Cunto

Yeah the three most important kicks of his career, he was lethal from the spot, I was maybe 95% confident in him, something about that stutter in the run freaked me out...

Snow

He's a one in a million alright. Him and Irwin the best the club has had. So much confidence and precision. When Ruud missed he started shooting to his right. After that goalkeepers were never sure.

SharkyMcShark

Another article where the headline bears no resemblance to the story

gooDevil

He's a good penalty taker, but he seems a bit limited in his variety and a bit erratic in his accuracy. He seems to go for the bottom right or left only.

From what I've seen, I like Nani as a penalty taker more. I think he has better control on his kicks, he's extremely comfortable putting the ball anywhere very accurately, he's comfortable shooting down the middle occasionally, and he can send the keeper the other way.

Of course the coaching staff would know a lot more, I'm sure they practice penalties with everyone occasionally.

rcoobc

Ruud vs Ronaldo vs Rooney vs Irwin. If they took the following 5 penalties for us in their prime, home many of them do you think they would score: FA Cup Final (Penalty Shootout), Champions League Final (Penalty Shooutout), Champions League Final (In game), League vs Arsenal away, League vs Liverpool away.

I think my confidence would be on Irwin, followed by Ruud, Ronaldo, and then Rooney. But the first two didn't take that many penalty's for us in Penalty shootouts or big finals. Ruud took one against Arsenal in 2005 FA Cup Final and scored. Would Irwin's confidence have finally been shaken if he had had to take them in those situations?

RDCR07

Do you actually have the stats for how many he has taken and how many he has missed? At least the ones he has taken in the recent past?

CantonaVeron

Cantona was our best pen taker, he always sent the keeper the wrong way and I was always confident he would score. I only remember him missing one where he sent the keeper the wrong way but but it slighty wide. Rooney is ok, he is simular to Ruud in style. I think people forget RVN missed the one vs Arsenal that sparked all the trouble, then missed a couple around that. Irwin didn't take that many I think he would have had more saved if he was regular. Also Ronaldo missed the three already mentioned. I think the fact is if you take alot of kicks some are going to be saved. Its a bit of a confidence thing really, I think that slip vs Arsenal has caused this downturn in Rooneys pens, it was a complete freak but it must bring a doubt in the mind. These days keepers are much better at saving them too, with all their reaserch into previous efforts its almost worth having a diiferent pen taker each pen you get to mix up the goalie.

scholesy legend

Like Fergie said, taking penalty is all about confidence. Rooney should take it if he feels good about it. Not so much to do with recent statistics. In fact, I think all our players can take penalties, even the keepers. They are all professional football players, they can take penalties alright.

204Red

Anyone remember the Peno Ronaldo had to take twice vs the Arse... now that took balls

jojojo

I remember Irwin taking one for us at OT, Southampton at the end of the 94/95 season, to keep us in contention for the League. I think everybody in the ground was shaking with nerves, except for Denis.

Of course we then spoiled it by drawing with West Ham in the final match, but Irwin - now he was a penalty taker!

Fact is, every player misses penalties. The question is what does it do to the rest of their game and what effect does it have next time they come up to take one. RvN was great at them until he went on a run of missing them. After that, it was never the same.

Jaap

What's he holding in his hand in the first picture?

Carrick or Nani should Rooney miss another.

Rowem

Carrick is bizarrely overrated at penalties.

Giggs would be my first choice, after that nobody stands out.

kps88

Remember his penalty at Ewood Park to win us the league? High pressure stuff and it was unsaveable.

Donut

Does anyone maybe have a video of Nani's penalty, I think it was Community Shield against Chelsea at the end. He couldn't have put it more into the upper right corner. It was the best penalty I have ever seen.

Donut

It was actually against Bayern in a friendly without any pressure, but still a fantastic penalty.

RonaldoVII

All of Rooneys pens look saveable and if the keeper goes the right way he has a good chance. That's not what we want and he's missed 3 on the run and one will cost us soon.

buckooo1978

I say stick with Rooney

I imagine he's probably hundreds of penalties over the last week and it's a technique that can be developed

Hard and low Wayne with a bit of deception

Kinky Melinky

Ooomph you don't get much better than that

Sean_RedDevil

He has missed 4 of his last 8 penalty attempts and i think 6 of his last 14.

Lance Uppercut

Cantona?

Man-United

I think he only missed two penalties for us during his time here, fantastic.

Snow

He was confident all right but he wasn't like Irwin or Ruud. Irwin was the main pen taker.

Lance Uppercut

Not when Eric was on the pitch.

RedRob

Nani's penalties make me think of Fulham last year. 2-1 up and Nani at the spot... should not have drawn that one.

Does Welbeck have a decent penalty in him? If not, then Carrick would be my choice (Burnley notwithstanding).

Sir A1ex

Didn't miss any penalties today. Keep it up Wayne.

Eriku

Too right. Cantona's method of taking it is the one I prefer. Not necessarily powerful but always a goal because the goalie goes the other way. That's proper control