Scholes' Role Next Year

RedDevilCanuck · 8th June 2008, 00:43

He will play a big part. He is too good to ride the bench all year. Took him a number of games to get back to fitness but his performances in Europe were great particular at Nou Camp. He was all over the place and how can you forget about his goal that got us to Moscow. I think he has AT LEAST 2 years left. I'd play him every game that isn't high tempo next year.

kishankhagram · 8th June 2008, 00:46

I agree and disagree. I agree that he is a fantastic player and still should be played for the next two years. I disagree with playing him in nearly every game. We have to build for the future, and the only way to do that is by giving people like Anderson, Carrick, Hargreaves, Fletcher more first team football. Scholes is a legend and always will be.

Raven_Blade · 8th June 2008, 00:59

He will no doubt continue with his new position as a deep lying playmaker. However I would like to see him play higher up the pitch more often and sit just behind the strikers. As he has proved in the past he will be absolutely lethal there.

Bape · 8th June 2008, 01:00

He's still quite comfortably our best centre midfielder, but theres little point in playing him every single game next season. He'll be used sparingly.

Gazza · 8th June 2008, 01:00

I said a few weeks ago that some people underestimate the role Scholes will play next season.

I don't believe he'll play 25 games next season, more like 45, because the simple fact is he is part of our strongest line up. If you were picking our best team for a match tomorrow Scholes and Carrick would be in midfield.

He will probably play 2 games out of every 3 next season imo, rested against weaker Premiership sides.

He had an injury last season that was basically just bad luck. It doesn't mean his days are numbered, even if he is at the stage where he will start winding down. He had a couple of shockers (especially Arsenal at home) when he came back in the second half of the season, but also 2 fantastic performances against Barcelona and a good performance against Chelsea.

It's not just Scholes' quality that means he should play (he is still the most intelligent and crafty player in our squad) but also the specific role he plays, which is very important to our shape as a team imo. We have some great midfielders, but none of them can do quite what Scholes does. Carrick is probably closest, but the two of them work so well together that breaking them up is just unnecessary.

It's clear Fergie likes rotating the midfield to keep it fresh. I expect Fletch to get some big games in a midfield three at times, I expect Anderson to be given more license going forward (taking over from where Giggs has been playing the last 2 seasons), and Hargreaves to get games in various positions, but I do believe Scholes-Carrick has plenty more mileage left.

As for building for the future, I think we our aim should first and foremost be to win the league every season. Scholes and Carrick will be crucial in that. However the other 3 midfielders will get so many games themselves that there won't be a problem in that regard.

ZIDANE · 8th June 2008, 01:02

Scholes' ability to control the match and his technique means he is still our best midfielder. The only slight on him is his mobility now and whether he can match his high levels consistently. He's done that so far.

He won't play every match and he won't be warming the bench. He'll be rotated with our other midfielder depending on the fitness and opposition. They, as the previous season, will all have a part to play - him probably the most as his experience is still key to us - hopefully it all rubs off on to Anderson.

Nem 7 · 8th June 2008, 01:29

Scholes can play until he's 40.

Widnes · 8th June 2008, 02:07

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Originally Posted by Nem 7

Scholes can play until he's 40.

Maybe but certainly not for us

nemanja nemagic · 8th June 2008, 02:23

Scholes certainly has more longevity than Giggs does, and the widespread footballing population have maintained the view that Scholes will inevitably follow the path that Giggs has over the last 2 years, receding into the background, used sparingly and as an impact player off the bench to calm things with experience perhaps. However, I believe that Scholes has surprised everyone with his continued zest and energy, and isn't having to make as many concessions as Giggs has had to benefit the squad. Scholes IS the most integral cog in our squad still, no ifs and buts; whether he be playing in his new found deeper playmaking role - adapted due to age (for the majority of the season) or the rare attacking forages he contributes (e.g. Roma away for ronnie's goal, Fulham away for Park's header, or Barca at home).

Before anyone jumps on me for those Giggs comments - they are both club legends and collosal servants of the club.

Alex · 8th June 2008, 05:24

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Originally Posted by nemanja nemagic

Scholes certainly has more longevity than Giggs does, and the widespread footballing population have maintained the view that Scholes will inevitably follow the path that Giggs has over the last 2 years, receding into the background, used sparingly and as an impact player off the bench to calm things with experience perhaps. However, I believe that Scholes has surprised everyone with his continued zest and energy, and isn't having to make as many concessions as Giggs has had to benefit the squad. Scholes IS the most integral cog in our squad still, no ifs and buts; whether he be playing in his new found deeper playmaking role - adapted due to age (for the majority of the season) or the rare attacking forages he contributes (e.g. Roma away for ronnie's goal, Fulham away for Park's header, or Barca at home).

Before anyone jumps on me for those Giggs comments - they are both club legends and collosal servants of the club.

Giggs has been in the United first team a lot longer than Scholes

Lot 49 · 8th June 2008, 08:07

I think he'll play a lot less next year. He may have had a bad injury but Anderson started the season with very poor fitness, Hargreaves had load of niggles for the first half, Carrick picked up an injury for a month or so and Fletcher missed the run in.

He's still class and in games where we're going to have a lot of possession I'd pick him every time but considering how strong we are in central midfield now I'm not exactly going to be worried if his name isn't on the team sheet.

giggs-beckham · 8th June 2008, 13:14

As long as ronaldo stays and we make some quality signings im looking forward to next season. and seeing anderson and nani maturing. giggs and scholes are doing excellent work in intergrating these young players into the team.
ps i think were gonna see special things from nani next season, mabey even outshining ronaldo.

wancolos · 8th June 2008, 14:16

Fergie has basically said that Scholes (and Giggs) will play less next season.

KeyserSoze · 8th June 2008, 14:18

His role will decrease, no doubt... fergie has said as much. I think he will be just as effective when he does play though. Will most probably be in the more important games as well.

CantonaVeron · 8th June 2008, 14:27

Scholes role will be that of a first team player, he is a member of our strongest 11 and thus will play the majority of games injuries obviously could change that but if Scholes stays injury free I see him playing 40 games plus next season. He is such an important player for us and has never relied on pace, he's so clever when in possesion of the football he makes time with his great footballing brain.

Collina · 8th June 2008, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Bape

He's still quite comfortably our best centre midfielder

Well, Carrick was better this season, in my opinion.

Name Changed · 8th June 2008, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Bape

He's still quite comfortably our best centre midfielder, but theres little point in playing him every single game next season. He'll be used sparingly.

I'd agree that he was our best midfielder, but Anderson is going to make more of a breakthrough next season. I can see Scholes playing a lot of games, but room will have to be made for Anderson.

surf · 8th June 2008, 23:37

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Originally Posted by nemanja nemagic

Scholes IS the most integral cog in our squad still, no ifs and buts

Anderson filled the gap reasonably well when Scholes was out for 3 months. I'm more concerned when Ferdinand is out of the team.

quethenoo · 9th June 2008, 00:35

20-25 games i reckon.

Gazza · 9th June 2008, 02:00

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Originally Posted by quethenoo

20-25 games i reckon.

Rubbish

Instant Karma · 9th June 2008, 07:56

His role depends on whether Ronnie stays...IMO, 2 deep lying midfielders may not work if Ronnie leaves. The front 3 cant always carry the team for both assists and goals.

Broo · 9th June 2008, 15:43

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Originally Posted by surf

Anderson filled the gap reasonably well when Scholes was out for 3 months. I'm more concerned when Ferdinand is out of the team.

Agreed. Scholes will still be important for us though. His role in training is also significant; many players say that he is the best player in training and I'm sure having someone as committed, talented and experienced as him around day in day out will have a positive effect on the younger players.

8th June 2008, 00:43	#1 (permalink)
RedDevilCanuck Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decent mix between America and Britain. Posts: 1,412	Scholes' Role Next Year He will play a big part. He is too good to ride the bench all year. Took him a number of games to get back to fitness but his performances in Europe were great particular at Nou Camp. He was all over the place and how can you forget about his goal that got us to Moscow. I think he has AT LEAST 2 years left. I'd play him every game that isn't high tempo next year.

8th June 2008, 00:46	#2 (permalink)
kishankhagram Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London Posts: 1,711	I agree and disagree. I agree that he is a fantastic player and still should be played for the next two years. I disagree with playing him in nearly every game. We have to build for the future, and the only way to do that is by giving people like Anderson, Carrick, Hargreaves, Fletcher more first team football. Scholes is a legend and always will be.

8th June 2008, 00:59	#3 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In Man Utd's Defence. Posts: 18,262	He will no doubt continue with his new position as a deep lying playmaker. However I would like to see him play higher up the pitch more often and sit just behind the strikers. As he has proved in the past he will be absolutely lethal there.

8th June 2008, 01:00	#4 (permalink)
Bape Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,415	He's still quite comfortably our best centre midfielder, but theres little point in playing him every single game next season. He'll be used sparingly.

8th June 2008, 01:00	#5 (permalink)
Gazza Magic Carpet Pilot Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: "The great thing about United, as a result of Matt Busby, is that they have a philosophy of a club that is very discernable. You know what Manchester United stand for." Posts: 25,107	I said a few weeks ago that some people underestimate the role Scholes will play next season. I don't believe he'll play 25 games next season, more like 45, because the simple fact is he is part of our strongest line up. If you were picking our best team for a match tomorrow Scholes and Carrick would be in midfield. He will probably play 2 games out of every 3 next season imo, rested against weaker Premiership sides. He had an injury last season that was basically just bad luck. It doesn't mean his days are numbered, even if he is at the stage where he will start winding down. He had a couple of shockers (especially Arsenal at home) when he came back in the second half of the season, but also 2 fantastic performances against Barcelona and a good performance against Chelsea. It's not just Scholes' quality that means he should play (he is still the most intelligent and crafty player in our squad) but also the specific role he plays, which is very important to our shape as a team imo. We have some great midfielders, but none of them can do quite what Scholes does. Carrick is probably closest, but the two of them work so well together that breaking them up is just unnecessary. It's clear Fergie likes rotating the midfield to keep it fresh. I expect Fletch to get some big games in a midfield three at times, I expect Anderson to be given more license going forward (taking over from where Giggs has been playing the last 2 seasons), and Hargreaves to get games in various positions, but I do believe Scholes-Carrick has plenty more mileage left. As for building for the future, I think we our aim should first and foremost be to win the league every season. Scholes and Carrick will be crucial in that. However the other 3 midfielders will get so many games themselves that there won't be a problem in that regard.

8th June 2008, 01:02	#6 (permalink)
ZIDANE First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: "..undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation." Zizou on Scholes Posts: 5,516	Scholes' ability to control the match and his technique means he is still our best midfielder. The only slight on him is his mobility now and whether he can match his high levels consistently. He's done that so far. He won't play every match and he won't be warming the bench. He'll be rotated with our other midfielder depending on the fitness and opposition. They, as the previous season, will all have a part to play - him probably the most as his experience is still key to us - hopefully it all rubs off on to Anderson.

8th June 2008, 01:29	#7 (permalink)
Nem 7 Look, I'm a cunt, can type in colour so I must be important. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Outside Right Posts: 5,051	Scholes can play until he's 40.

8th June 2008, 02:23	#9 (permalink)
nemanja nemagic Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fuckin' in the bushes Posts: 1,544	Scholes certainly has more longevity than Giggs does, and the widespread footballing population have maintained the view that Scholes will inevitably follow the path that Giggs has over the last 2 years, receding into the background, used sparingly and as an impact player off the bench to calm things with experience perhaps. However, I believe that Scholes has surprised everyone with his continued zest and energy, and isn't having to make as many concessions as Giggs has had to benefit the squad. Scholes IS the most integral cog in our squad still, no ifs and buts; whether he be playing in his new found deeper playmaking role - adapted due to age (for the majority of the season) or the rare attacking forages he contributes (e.g. Roma away for ronnie's goal, Fulham away for Park's header, or Barca at home). Before anyone jumps on me for those Giggs comments - they are both club legends and collosal servants of the club.

8th June 2008, 08:07	#11 (permalink)
Lot 49 Doom Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,174	I think he'll play a lot less next year. He may have had a bad injury but Anderson started the season with very poor fitness, Hargreaves had load of niggles for the first half, Carrick picked up an injury for a month or so and Fletcher missed the run in. He's still class and in games where we're going to have a lot of possession I'd pick him every time but considering how strong we are in central midfield now I'm not exactly going to be worried if his name isn't on the team sheet.

8th June 2008, 13:14	#12 (permalink)
giggs-beckham Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,327	As long as ronaldo stays and we make some quality signings im looking forward to next season. and seeing anderson and nani maturing. giggs and scholes are doing excellent work in intergrating these young players into the team. ps i think were gonna see special things from nani next season, mabey even outshining ronaldo.

8th June 2008, 14:16	#13 (permalink)
wancolos Diarrhetic homosexual- likes to beat Noggies with his manbat Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 16,738	Fergie has basically said that Scholes (and Giggs) will play less next season.

8th June 2008, 14:18	#14 (permalink)
KeyserSoze First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Batigol Posts: 7,131	His role will decrease, no doubt... fergie has said as much. I think he will be just as effective when he does play though. Will most probably be in the more important games as well.

8th June 2008, 14:27	#15 (permalink)
CantonaVeron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,004	Scholes role will be that of a first team player, he is a member of our strongest 11 and thus will play the majority of games injuries obviously could change that but if Scholes stays injury free I see him playing 40 games plus next season. He is such an important player for us and has never relied on pace, he's so clever when in possesion of the football he makes time with his great footballing brain.

9th June 2008, 00:35	#19 (permalink)
quethenoo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Where the sun dont shine. Posts: 3,015	20-25 games i reckon.

9th June 2008, 07:56	#21 (permalink)
Instant Karma Closet Gooner Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a galaxy far far away Posts: 5,508	His role depends on whether Ronnie stays...IMO, 2 deep lying midfielders may not work if Ronnie leaves. The front 3 cant always carry the team for both assists and goals.