Should Fergie be in Switzerland/Austria?

amir51 · 23rd June 2008, 02:25

As much as I believe Fergie deserves his holiday in South France, do you think he could have postponed it till after the Euros.

Today Wenger was at the Spain-Italy game and it has me slightly worried that
A) We have done nothing this transfer season. Infact, we moved backwards in losing Pique, losing out on Ramsey, and then all this Ronaldo bullshit.
B) Wenger is searching for his next prey but is very active and I think he will make a big signing, possibly villa.

So, what do you guys reckon. Are we missing out on a golden opportunity to sign players up? Have we been too quiet this transfer season?

pert · 23rd June 2008, 02:27

He will have scouts there

And I'm sure he's watching any potential targets on tele

Hope this helps

pillory · 23rd June 2008, 02:27

I think we guys have absolutely no idea.

Solius · 23rd June 2008, 02:28

I trust him, he knows what he's doing.

The Hairdryer · 23rd June 2008, 02:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by amir51

As much as I believe Fergie deserves his holiday in South France, do you think he could have postponed it till after the Euros.

Today Wenger was at the Spain-Italy game and it has me slightly worried that
A) We have done nothing this transfer season. Infact, we moved backwards in losing Pique, losing out on Ramsey, and then all this Ronaldo bullshit.
B) Wenger is searching for his next prey but is very active and I think he will make a big signing, possibly villa.

So, what do you guys reckon. Are we missing out on a golden opportunity to sign players up? Have we been too quiet this transfer season?

Shut up dickhead

DoctorEvil · 23rd June 2008, 02:29

I would imagine we identified our targets months ago. We probably also have scouts looking for new players.

amir51 · 23rd June 2008, 02:30

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Originally Posted by Solius

I trust him, he knows what he's doing.

I have no dobut we will be competing on all fronts next season, I just want our job easy as possible.

and pert, thank you yes, yes it did.

Wandering Red · 23rd June 2008, 02:40

I'm sure he's watching each and every game. Not like they haven't got television in France.

Besides, bad things could happen if he's allowed close enough to throw a wine bottle at Platini.

unitedbhoy · 23rd June 2008, 02:45

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Originally Posted by pert

He will have scouts there

And I'm sure he's watching any potential targets on tele

Hope this helps

Exactly, he will have scouts everywhere. Nani + Anderson.

Sam#1 · 23rd June 2008, 02:49

Sell Fergie.

neno · 23rd June 2008, 02:54

what a load of bollocks

we just won the double

our squad is not in a desperate need for players like arsenal's thin squad is. flamini already left and hleb and adebayor are probably gonna quit on arsene too. if cnut leaves then we will have to break the bank other than that we dont really need to. ffs we have an elite bench already of giggs, anderson, nani, saha, silvestre, foster, etc.

honestly right now all we honestly need is decent cover in right back, so when vida or rio get injured we dont have to put hargo to fill in for brown/new rb. And all this we need a striker bs... we scored more than 100 fucking goals last season plus we won the cl and league, isnt that good enough for you doom/gloom - transfer muppets?

Also you forgot to mention that we bagged petrucci, which came from the roma youth system who have produced totti, de rossi, aquilani,etc.

jasonrh · 23rd June 2008, 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by amir51

As much as I believe Fergie deserves his holiday in South France, do you think he could have postponed it till after the Euros.

Today Wenger was at the Spain-Italy game and it has me slightly worried that
A) We have done nothing this transfer season. Infact, we moved backwards in losing Pique, losing out on Ramsey, and then all this Ronaldo bullshit.
B) Wenger is searching for his next prey but is very active and I think he will make a big signing, possibly villa.

So, what do you guys reckon. Are we missing out on a golden opportunity to sign players up? Have we been too quiet this transfer season?

Why?

Is it not on TV or something?

I don't exactly think Wenger is sneaking into their bedrooms at night and signing them up.

Don't make me piss myself laughing at the idea that we are "moving backwards" at "losing out on Ramsey" (he'll probably end up the next Lee Martin) and "losing Pique" (he couldn't get games - what is the point?).

Ronaldo is obviously a concern.

IF (a big IF if United decide to stay firm and Ronaldo does his usual change-his-mind-the-moment-he-gets-in-a-room-with-Fergie routine again, at least for a while) lose Ronaldo there will likely be a blip in form. Big shit, football is cycles - and we're still good enough to do whatever we put our minds to with a bit of luck.

But even if we just keep him for a year (ideally two), we'd be able to prepare for the post-Ronaldo future with no blips whatsoever - Fergie desperately wants that 18-5 or 19-4 if he possibly can and it is a fact that he is not getting any younger. The question would be whether events have gone too far for supporters to accept it.

It is quite possible, even likely, that he isn't at the Euros today because we're not interested in anyone there today. Who are we going to buy? Torres? Ambrosini?

Fabregas was there, and Wenger might have been there just to see how he was getting on (I think Wenger tends to holiday in Austria, iirc).

Chris H · 23rd June 2008, 03:53

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Originally Posted by amir51

So, what do you guys reckon. Are we missing out on a golden opportunity to sign players up? Have we been too quiet this transfer season?

No. And no.

Summer's just getting started. And Ferguson doesn't actually do everything at the club. We have these fellows called "scouts", for example.

M160RA · 23rd June 2008, 05:11

Relax, muppet season still has a couple of months to run.

I_live_cement · 23rd June 2008, 05:22

I doubt he hasn't heard of anyone playing in the Euros so I don't think him not being there should concern us. He'll have his targets and may already be pursuing them for all we now.

M160RA · 23rd June 2008, 05:31

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Originally Posted by I_live_cement

I doubt he hasn't heard of anyone playing in the Euros so I don't think him not being there should concern us. He'll have his targets and may already be pursuing them for all we now.

Or he's already decided on his targets, and since they happen to be playing in the Euros he's just waiting for the players to be available.

Cold_Boy · 23rd June 2008, 05:56

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Originally Posted by pillory

I think we guys have absolutely no idea.

Agreed.

a_devil_inside · 23rd June 2008, 07:43

Wenger was tapping up Zidane

Drifter · 23rd June 2008, 07:46

Start panicking at the end of July.Everyone are waiting for the Euros to finish.

devilish · 23rd June 2008, 07:49

It is a renowned fact that SAF is lazy. Time and time again he had shown that he does not care about the club. My biggest worry is that he had never been in a situation where he has to replace a good player. Im sure that he will not be able to handle such pressure and fail miserably expecially since Ronaldo's only adequate successor Pennant is not available.

bcubed · 23rd June 2008, 07:50

"Ahem",

"Poborsky",

"Ahem".

devilish · 23rd June 2008, 07:54

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Originally Posted by bcubed

"Ahem",

"Poborsky",

"Ahem".

What's wrong with Poborsky? He was a great talent who had proved himself in Italy. The only problem with Karel was that he refused to learn the English language because he felt it was too difficult for him. Same problem occured with Rush who failed to make an impact with Juventus. That does not mean that he was shite.

bcubed · 23rd June 2008, 08:00

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Originally Posted by devilish

What's wrong with Poborsky? He was a great talent who had proved himself in Italy. The only problem with Karel was that he refused to learn the English language because he felt it was too difficult for him. Same problem occured with Rush who failed to make an impact with Juventus. That does not mean that he was shite.

Nothing at all wrong with him - ended up a fine player, just didn't work out for us too well. Also signed on the back of a "great" Euro championship.

devilish · 23rd June 2008, 08:02

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Originally Posted by bcubed

Nothing at all wrong with him - ended up a fine player, just didn't work out for us too well. Also signed on the back of a "great" Euro championship.

A scout can assess the player's talent and not the player's attitude and his ability in settling in the team. Poborsky was a brilliant player nearly at par to his teammate Nedved. Unfortunately he failed to settle down with us.

bcubed · 23rd June 2008, 08:06

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Originally Posted by devilish

A scout can assess the player's talent and not the player's attitude and his ability in settling in the team. Poborsky was a brilliant player nearly at par to his teammate Nedved. Unfortunately he failed to settle down with us.

Agreed, just pointing out the dangers to people of NOT doing the proper background work and signing the next great "New kid on the block" after one good tournament.

KSA - ManUtd · 23rd June 2008, 08:56

Fergie was in France when We got Anderson and Nani.

Wenger is doing match analysis for Al jazeera thats why he has to be there.

TR · 23rd June 2008, 09:09

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Originally Posted by devilish

What's wrong with Poborsky? He was a great talent who had proved himself in Italy. The only problem with Karel was that he refused to learn the English language because he felt it was too difficult for him. Same problem occured with Rush who failed to make an impact with Juventus.

I was at school with Rush and can confirm that his grasp of English was pretty feeble. Don't see how this affected his impact with Juve though.

devilish · 23rd June 2008, 09:26

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Originally Posted by TR

I was at school with Rush and can confirm that his grasp of English was pretty feeble. Don't see how this affected his impact with Juve though.

One of the Ian's main problems was that he couldn't learn Italian. Juventus did their best in helping him on this but he simply failed to get a grip of the language. That is one of the main reasons why he failed in Italy.

devilish · 23rd June 2008, 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcubed

Agreed, just pointing out the dangers to people of NOT doing the proper background work and signing the next great "New kid on the block" after one good tournament.

You are not understanding mate.

Poborsky was no 1 season wonder. He proved that in Italy where he was hailed as one of the best wingers of his generation. The problem with him was that he simply couldnt learn English. For one reason or another he couldnt get the grip of it. In fact he was put on the transfer market only when he dismissed his tutors and lost hope in ever learning it. No one, not even SAF could have predicted such thing.

bcubed · 23rd June 2008, 09:40

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Originally Posted by devilish

You are not understanding mate.

Poborsky was no 1 season wonder. He proved that in Italy where he was hailed as one of the best wingers of his generation. The problem with him was that he simply couldnt learn English. For one reason or another he couldnt get the grip of it. In fact he was put on the transfer market only when he dismissed his tutors and lost hope in ever learning it. No one, not even SAF could have predicted such thing.

I am understanding you perfectly, (I think) I am agreeing with you. I think Poborsky was a great player that didn't cut it with us (for linguistic reasons according to you). Whatever the reasons, there is a little more to think about than signing a player after he has had a good/great tournament, (temprament, suitability to the EPL, linguistics, etc)

I wish we could have had him playing at his best for us.

23rd June 2008, 02:25	#1 (permalink)
amir51 Youth Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 426	Should Fergie be in Switzerland/Austria? As much as I believe Fergie deserves his holiday in South France, do you think he could have postponed it till after the Euros. Today Wenger was at the Spain-Italy game and it has me slightly worried that A) We have done nothing this transfer season. Infact, we moved backwards in losing Pique, losing out on Ramsey, and then all this Ronaldo bullshit. B) Wenger is searching for his next prey but is very active and I think he will make a big signing, possibly villa. So, what do you guys reckon. Are we missing out on a golden opportunity to sign players up? Have we been too quiet this transfer season?

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pert Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12,166	He will have scouts there And I'm sure he's watching any potential targets on tele Hope this helps

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pillory Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tyburn Posts: 851	I think we guys have absolutely no idea.

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Solius First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Playing Connect 4 with Tevez and Anderson. Posts: 6,186	I trust him, he knows what he's doing.

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DoctorEvil Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: "ut biberent, quando esse nollent " (if they will not eat, then they will drink) -- Publius Claudius Pulcher Posts: 939	I would imagine we identified our targets months ago. We probably also have scouts looking for new players.

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Wandering Red Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In nomine Patri. Et Fili. Spiritus Sancti. Posts: 691	I'm sure he's watching each and every game. Not like they haven't got television in France. Besides, bad things could happen if he's allowed close enough to throw a wine bottle at Platini.

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Sam#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :( Like being stabbed in the heart.....It just won't stop hurting :( Posts: 12,930	Sell Fergie.

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neno Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A town called Malice. Posts: 1,483	what a load of bollocks we just won the double our squad is not in a desperate need for players like arsenal's thin squad is. flamini already left and hleb and adebayor are probably gonna quit on arsene too. if cnut leaves then we will have to break the bank other than that we dont really need to. ffs we have an elite bench already of giggs, anderson, nani, saha, silvestre, foster, etc. honestly right now all we honestly need is decent cover in right back, so when vida or rio get injured we dont have to put hargo to fill in for brown/new rb. And all this we need a striker bs... we scored more than 100 fucking goals last season plus we won the cl and league, isnt that good enough for you doom/gloom - transfer muppets? Also you forgot to mention that we bagged petrucci, which came from the roma youth system who have produced totti, de rossi, aquilani,etc.

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M160RA Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,718	Relax, muppet season still has a couple of months to run.

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I_live_cement Cat freak Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4,464	I doubt he hasn't heard of anyone playing in the Euros so I don't think him not being there should concern us. He'll have his targets and may already be pursuing them for all we now.

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a_devil_inside Big footed hermaphrodite Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Little Britain Posts: 24,296	Wenger was tapping up Zidane

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Drifter First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 16,843	Start panicking at the end of July.Everyone are waiting for the Euros to finish.

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devilish Nationality: Italian-English, Maltese Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cnut's home Posts: 17,919	It is a renowned fact that SAF is lazy. Time and time again he had shown that he does not care about the club. My biggest worry is that he had never been in a situation where he has to replace a good player. Im sure that he will not be able to handle such pressure and fail miserably expecially since Ronaldo's only adequate successor Pennant is not available.

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bcubed Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Endeavouring to persevere in observation of all things futile. Posts: 841	"Ahem", "Poborsky", "Ahem".

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KSA - ManUtd Youth Team Player Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 297	Fergie was in France when We got Anderson and Nani. Wenger is doing match analysis for Al jazeera thats why he has to be there.

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