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Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling.
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He's really not. For the most part, you know what you're going to get from Young: quality in most areas, excellent decision-making, a team player. With Nani, you know what you could get - match-winning brilliance. Whether you'll get it or not is another question.
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I hate everything
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#83 (permalink) |
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Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling.
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Since about 2008
We've discussed this in another thread, you admitted I was right*. Young almost always chooses the right option, especially in the pass. And he can do almost everything well, even if not that much absolutely brilliantly. *may not have actually admitted it in so many words |
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السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
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I'd just go with the standard 4-4-2 in most games with Nani, and Valencia as wingers. Against better opposition, and in Europe I'd play Rooney up front with an extra midfielder (Giggs). Another option would be to drop Rooney deeper to make up numbers in the middle, and play Welbeck up front. I choose Welbeck because he links up better with our midfield. He, Rooney and Cleverley were magical together prior to Clev's injury.
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Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling.
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That's defo your best strategy for being right
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السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
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Surprisingly, midfield has not been our weakest link this season. Fortunately Carrick has decided to man up, and remain injury free otherwise our season would have been over some while back. The issue has been Vidic' injury, and SAF choosing De Gea to serve his apprentiship at United.
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Smells
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I'd say that this is our strongest lineup.
De Gea Rafael-Vidic-Smalling-Evra Valencia-Carrick-Cleverley-Nani Rooney Hernandez It's actually quite difficult for me to pick our strongest team. We've had a lot of injuries this season which has disrupted it. As well as that, I don't think Fergie even knows himself what our strongest team is. Lindegaard has been impressive at times, but I don't feel that he's done enough to show us that he should be first choice. I'm willing to stick by De Gea for the moment. Rafael has to be the first choice right back. Smalling has filled in well, while Jones has shown he can play there, but Rafael is a natural full back, who is good at both attacking and defending. Leaving out Rio was very hard, but Smalling has just looked so much more solid this season. Rio usually looks better alongside Vidic, but Smalling is a player who looks good no matter who you put beside him. The choices on the wings are pretty self explanatory at the moment. Valencia has been on fire, while Nani still warrants a place in the team. Unless Young hits a good run of form, I can't see anything changing there. In the centre, I've had to think hard about it. Carrick definitely deserves to be there because he's been consistently good throughout the whole season. The other choice was hard. Choosing Cleverley is risky because of how little he has played for us, but he did make a massive difference at the start of the season. Giggs has been hit and miss there, while Scholes has been very good in his short time back. Welbeck has arguably been better than Hernandez this season, however I've gone for Chicharito because of how good him and Rooney were in the back end of last season. I think that if they can link up well together, we'll see why they should be our first choices up front. |
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السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
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DDG
Rafael-Smalling-Vidic-Evra Valencia-Carrick-Giggs-Nani Rooney Welbeck I don't think Cleverley has done enough just yet to justify being in our best 11 but I imagine that will come very soon. Harsh leaving Evans, Jones, Rio, and Chicharito out but this is the line up I'd like to see us go out with in most games. |
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Cleverley has played 5 games in midfield for United. How on earth is he part of the strongest lineup?
Jones at right back? No thank you. DDG Rafael Rio Vidic Evra Valencia Carrick Scholes Nani Rooney Berbatov/Hernandes (depends on the opposition) |
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Les jeux sont Fait
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Don't get me wrong, I think Welbeck is a fantastic talent, have done since he was 16, and I think he'll be first choice rightly very soon... which is probably why he is first choice anyway now. Similarly I think Smalling will displace Rio, and Cleverley displace Scholes, some time in the next year, but right now it's hard to argue with the quality the likes of Ferdinand, Scholes and Berbatov add, and I think Berbatov, in particular, is unfortunate. I wouldn't pick him for certain games, but he should have played against Liverpool in the cup, for example. There are times when Danny makes the wrong choice and occasionally that's costing us, even though obviously he adds a lot as well.
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-------------DeGea--------------
Rafael----Vidic-----Rio-------Evra Valencia--Scholes----Carrick---Nani --------Welbeck---Rooney Would love to give following a whirl... ------------DeGea---------------- Rafael------Vidic----Rio-------Evra --------------Carrick-------------- --------Scholes-----Cleverley------ Valencia-----Rooney--------Nani |
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Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling.
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I'd also have Smalling over Rio if Vidic was fit. You need Rio for experience in big games if there's no Vidic, but to me he looks a little bit shot now. The pace has really gone, and he's made a lot of mistakes (for him) since his return from injury. Hope I'm wrong... but Vidic and Ferdinand lacks pace now for me. |
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Les jeux sont Fait
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Smalling is fantastic and it's quite something for him that he is being named by many people as preferable to Rio, but Ferdinand and Vidic are both still top class in my eyes. |
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-----------------DDG
Rafael-----Vida--------Rio-------------EvrA Toni V-------Carrick-------Scholes(Giggs)---------Nani ---------------------Rooney ---------------------Welbeck |
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4-4-2
-----------Lindegaard-------- Rafael-----Rio-------Vidic--------Evra Valencia----Carrick---Cleverley-----Nani -------------Rooney----Welbeck------------ 4-5-1 replace Welbeck with Scholes. |
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I'm hungry
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The strongest current line-up is:
---------Lindegaard------ Rafael-Smalling-Rio-Evra -----Carrick-Giggs-------- Valencia-------------Park ---------Rooney----------- ---------Welbeck |
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I'm hungry
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Nani's been as consistent as anyone in England over the past two years, in terms of goals/assists. He's been up and down this season though. |
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De Gea
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra Valencia Carrick Fletcher Nani Rooney Hernandez Probably our best 11 players De Gea Rafael Jones Smalling Evra Valencia Anderson/Cleverley Carrick Nani Rooney Welbeck For this season. |
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I am indeed mate. How's things?
Lindegaard? I still think De Gea is the better keeper, that save against Chelsea, although it was just one save, it showed class that Lindegaard hasn't shown yet. Not by any means stating that Lindegaard isn't a good keeper, but De Gea shades it. |
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I think in terms of ability there is little in it. Lindegaard just has that super-confident, slightly mental keeper attitude that marks out some of the best. It's the one thing De Gea is lacking at the moment and Lindegaard instills his confidence in me when he's playing. |
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One thing Lindegaard does have over De Gea is the lack of pressure that De Gea has felt, every mistake he's made has been magnified 100x, the first ball he dropped in the City game, people were going to slate him. I think if we get De Gea confident we have a world class keeper in goal for close to 20 years. |
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GK: De Gea
RB: Rafael CB: Ferdinand CB: Vidic LB: Fabio CM: Carrick CM: Jones LW: Nani RW: Valencia ST: Rooney ST: Welbeck I reserve judgement on Carrick/Cleverley (potentially our best pairing IMO) as they haven't had the chance to play together yet. |
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Personally I'm yet to see a partnership be as devastating as Anderson and Cleverly were for us this season. The only thing they lacked was Carrick calm assurance behind them. But due to the form of our strikers, I doubt we will see those start together any time soon.
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