Stategy against Wigan

Smash-E

A bit old I know, but who else laughed at United strategy against, Wigan - continously playing long balls towards Titus Bramble, with Rooney running behind him.

The_Midfielder

peterstorey

Looked like the strategy at Wigan was to go down to 10 then 9 men to give them a chance. Only for it to be ruined by the incompetence of Bennett.

GledTheRed

Bitter.

TheRedFlag

Reported for being in the wrong forum.

KeyserSoze

That incompetence also cost us a clear penalty on Scholes.

CnutOfAllCnuts

You are so so so bitter when it comes to Manchester United.

Which is quite strange, considering you are an Arsenal fan.

peterstorey

I'm a Corinthian I don't like to see anybody win unjustly due to shit reffing.

CnutOfAllCnuts

Well, refereeing mistakes happens in every game of football, so you must hate football.

Get over it Peter, United won the league. You should be used to it by now. After all, it has happened 10 times the last 16 seasons. And yet again United won the league because United were the best team over 38 games, including the last game of the season. Not because the refs, or because of the weather, or the long grass etc.

peterstorey

You can be as self-congratulatory as you like but this thread was about the Wigan game, nothing else.

CnutOfAllCnuts

And you can be as bitter as you like, it is still a bit strange for me how an Arsenal fan can be so bitter about United.

As for the Wigan game, the best team won, because they played better than Wigan. Not because of the ref and the mistakes he made.

Crustanoid

Is that because your shit club couldnt even win even with the help of shit reffing earlier this season (Gallas not being sent off in the FA cup against us)

peterstorey

You're not trying to say that Ferdinand should not have been sent off and a penalty awarded for the deliberate handball of a goalbound shot?

KeyserSoze

Unbelievable. Are u trying to say we should not have beenawrded a penalty when Scholes was taken down? The ref made bad decisions all round. Get over it.

peterstorey

That Ferdinand incident was the defining one, you'd have been a goal down with 10 men. Scholes shouldn't have been on the pitch to be fouled by the way.

Mozza

It might have been a penalty but no ref would ever give a red card in that case

peterstorey

What for handling a goalbound shot? It's almost inevitably a sending off.

Dippersripper

Sums up the attitude of a bitter rival fan who tries to justify his teams incompetence to win the league by thinking United won the league only with the help of the refs. Adebayor should've been sent off in the united game for deliberately handing the ball to score the goal. A deliberate handball is where your hand huts the ball instead of the ball hitting your hand.

Mozza

If it's going to go in, say a bloke behind the keeper stopping a shot with his hand, Rio is on the edge of the area

peterstorey

He was about 12 yards out and deliberately handled a shot that was on target (though it might have been saved) don't see how he stays on.

Mozza

He was on the edge of the area and it hit his upper arm as he was trying to get his chest in the way of the shot, no ref would ever send him off, few would give a penalty

KeyserSoze

No view on Adebayor slapping the ball into our net then?

peterstorey

I haven't said any of those things I have commented on some specific incidents in a specific game. Are you trying to say that Ferdinand didn't deliberately move his arm towards that shot?

Cambo

That was brilliant - so obvious what they were trying to do from the start of the match too

The Hairdryer

Geez, only with the benefit of a super slow replay was it clear that it came of his upper arm instead of his shoulder or chest. It would probably be given 4 times out of 10. Get over it.

Pogue Mahone

I'm getting a weird sense of déja vu. I'm fairly sure this has been discussed before about a similar incident in another game.

You're wrong, by the way. If the ref deemed Rio hqd handled the ball and had done so deliberately, it would have been a yellow card. Rio was almost twelve yards off the line and VdS was behind him. Completely different scenario to the last man using his hand to stop a certain goal.

Constantly amazes me how frequently footy fans (and certain managers) are ignorant of such basic rules.

peterstorey

Look Bennett, along with Styles, is the shittest ref in the league and clearly bottled it (as he did the Scholes sending off) knowing he would have to red card Ferdinand if he gave the handball.

peterstorey

Me too:

A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off and shown the red card if he commits any of the following seven offences:

1. denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

KeyserSoze

Ferdinand did not deliberately handle the ball, it hit him very high up and there was not a direct movement of the lower arm. A penalty could have been given but a yellow at most. Was not an obvious goalscoring oppurtunity.

The Hairdryer