Taken from RI: Is there anything more annoying than the irish?

park fiction · 14th April 2008, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Dublin

Ingerland for the English!
Piss off, VDS, Pique, Evra, Park, Nani, Anderson, Tevez, O'Shea, PIG, Ronaldo, Giggs, Rooney, (Is'nt that an Irish name?).

manxmanc · 14th April 2008, 16:17

I know a few top Irish lads from home who travel over from the isle of man on a regular basis, also had a top night last season before bolton with a bunch of irsh in the hotel bar

Not a bad word to say about them, that can't be said about people from any other nationality inside OT.

golden_blunder · 14th April 2008, 16:17

Tell you what, we'll take back Liam Whelan, Gregg, Nichol, Irwin, Moran, McGrath, Dunne, McIlroy, Keane, Best, Stapleton and Whiteside (and numerous others). We'll see where United would be without the Irish then. Ignoramus.

lem8sh · 14th April 2008, 16:20

Well said gb

Red Hand Devil · 14th April 2008, 16:25

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Originally Posted by gaffs

I don't have a problem with fans from other countries coming over to watch United.

Though I would be interested to know if the same fans go and support their home town clubs.

If more fans go and support Irish league teams, then over time, surely the standard will improve.

What the standard of support???

No offence man, but the standard of football has fuck all to do with lack of support. The top teams have been professional for a good few years and slowly alot more teams are following suit. Of course full-time status gives the players more time to bond as team-mates and find out their strengths & weakness's are, but the crowds are no bigger than when they were 20yrs ago when it was amateur & the standard has improved but so to has the lower leagues in Engalnd so Irish football is not much better off in terms of quality, European competition is how you rate leagues so judge it for yourself!

Anyway, i've been to quite a few Shels & Bohs games and also to Champions League games, quite good fun but there's a few "big-time Charlie's" who get on yer tits!

The guys who play in the League of Ireland are rejects from England that didnt make it, so they return home & earn a decent living playing ball here. Some swan around thinkin they're the dogs bollox - like Richie Baker - when he played for Shels a couple of years back - lazy cunt!!

As for us Irish gettin a bit of grief about "enjoying the moment too much" whilst in Old Trafford - why dont you lot try and do the 24hr trip by boat and bus, thats how long the whole trip takes us and 2days off work too, so fuck sake give those lads a break - its a consumption of time and money to follow United from Ireland and although we may annoy the odd "special fan" we generally are welcomed like everyone else that loves the Reds!

So to the "i'm a better fan than you" - STOP BEING SO FUCKING STUCK UP!!

ralphie88 · 14th April 2008, 16:26

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Originally Posted by brophs

So in a thread based on comment(s) putting down Irish fans, we now have Irish fans getting pissed off with each other.

They'll be blowing each other up next

ralphie88 · 14th April 2008, 16:28

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Originally Posted by golden_blunder

Tell you what, we'll take back Liam Whelan, Gregg, Nichol, Irwin, Moran, McGrath, Dunne, McIlroy, Keane, Best, Stapleton and Whiteside (and numerous others). We'll see where United would be without the Irish then. Ignoramus.

Did he play for Eire?

gaffs · 14th April 2008, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

You'd like to think so but the difference in the population of the two countries is so huge and the English scouting network so well-established in Ireland that all the best young Irish footballers are going to end up in England for decades to come.

Which means that "supporting your local team" in Ireland usually means watching the footballing equivalent of an English team from the lower reaches of the Football League.

And most English Manchester United fans (including mancunians) need to ask themselves, is MUFC really the most local team to where they live? Or are they other, lower league, teams which might actually be closer to their home?

It seems harsh to criticise Irish people for being willing to travel a bit, for the opportunity to watch football that is infinitely better than their "local team" when English blokes do the same almost every weekend.

I was defiantly not criticizing. Fair play to those who travel from Ireland. I know how hard and how expensive the travel is since moving to London.

Im originally from Sale - so United are my nearest club. Not that it makes me more of a United fan than anyone else. Altrincham are is just a little further away and i have been to watch the Robin's loads of times.

I just think if some of the Irish fans went to support the local team as well as United then the irish league clubs will receive more money, thus the standard should improve over time - if the money is spent right.

golden_blunder · 14th April 2008, 16:29

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

Did he play for Eire?

He actually played for both the North and the South in 1902

golden_blunder · 14th April 2008, 16:32

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Originally Posted by gaffs

I just think if some of the Irish fans went to support the local team as well as United then the irish league clubs will receive more money, thus the standard should improve over time - if the money is spent right.

The standard is never going to improve much, no matter how much money is chucked at it. The better players will always want to try their luck in England. The rejects are the ones who come 'home' on bigger contracts, sometimes as 'professionals'. The Irish leagues are on a hiding to nothing because most fans are crazy about United or Liverpool

mosesfromtala · 14th April 2008, 16:32

What the fuck is going on here? I was out tending the spuds and get back to this nonsense.

Klebersome , you'd wanna get your act together ...

and as for all these english experts on the League of Ireland is Old Trafford the nearest football pitch to your house?

English lads over here are the worst cunts in the world. Why? Cause they're lads ... on holidays ... on the piss ..... with different accents. So as a result they stand out like a sore thumb. The same criteria apply to Paddy at Old Trafford ... plus the excitement of being at Old Trafford.

Good man Pert by the way.

ConnemaraRed · 14th April 2008, 16:32

Wouldn't even bother getting worked up over what the tool has to say. Have met a load of English fellas over at games who make me feel stupid when they start talking about United's history, and also met some fellas from home who have been knobs. I couldn't give a flying toss where you're from so long as you're a United fan!!

Pogue Mahone · 14th April 2008, 16:35

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Originally Posted by gaffs

I was defiantly not criticizing. Fair play to those who travel from Ireland. I know how hard and how expensive the travel is since moving to London.

Im originally from Sale - so United are my nearest club. Not that it makes me more of a United fan than anyone else. Altrincham are is just a little further away and i have been to watch the Robin's loads of times.

I just think if some of the Irish fans went to support the local team as well as United then the irish league clubs will receive more money, thus the standard should improve over time - if the money is spent right.

I think you have a point. But the FAI are a bunch of total fuckwits and I don't ever see them getting the Irish league to anything even close to the English game.

Besides, as Red Hand said, a lot of Irish football fans will go to watch United and their local side, just like you and the Robins. When I was living in Irleland I used to watch Shamrock Rovers more times than I watched United, in any given season. Given a choice between the two though, I'm sure you understand the attraction of Old Trafford

brophs · 14th April 2008, 16:36

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

They'll be blowing each other up next

Down with that sort of thing

mosesfromtala · 14th April 2008, 16:37

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Originally Posted by gaffs

I just think if some of the Irish fans went to support the local team as well as United then the irish league clubs will receive more money, thus the standard should improve over time - if the money is spent right.

first chance of any decent player and he's off to England ... but in a way you are right - Rovers moving to Tallaght is interesting for Irish football and something good might develop as a result ...

for years I supported football over GAA but in the end just gave up ... football is competing with a far superior league in England and the GAA which is a great sport and the buzz of dublin games is just unrivalled. 82,000 punters singing their hearts out ...

Red Hand Devil · 14th April 2008, 16:39

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

They'll be blowing each other up next

Thats what sad little English men do when they meet a female open to having sexual relations - Inflate her!

gaffs · 14th April 2008, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Red Hand Devil

What the standard of support???

No offence man, but the standard of football has fuck all to do with lack of support. The top teams have been professional for a good few years and slowly alot more teams are following suit. Of course full-time status gives the players more time to bond as team-mates and find out their strengths & weakness's are, but the crowds are no bigger than when they were 20yrs ago when it was amateur & the standard has improved but so to has the lower leagues in Engalnd so Irish football is not much better off in terms of quality, European competition is how you rate leagues so judge it for yourself!

If more fans go to watch Irish league football there will be more money in the league. Not just from gates, but from TV, sponsorship etc.

If there is more money in the Irish game, then surely they would be able to keep/attract better players and bring in better managers/coaches. Sure, they wont be able to keep the top players but perhaps you wont loose players to lower English Championship or Div One teams if the wages are increased and the standard improves.

Pogue Mahone · 14th April 2008, 16:44

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Originally Posted by gaffs

If more fans go to watch Irish league football there will be more money in the league. Not just from gates, but from TV, sponsorship etc.

If there is more money in the Irish game, then surely they would be able to keep/attract better players and bring in better managers/coaches. Sure, they wont be able to keep the top players but perhaps you wont loose players to lower English Championship or Div One teams if the wages are increased and the standard improves.

With GAA being so popular in Ireland and the small population, compared to England, you just don't get the numbers to raise any sort of money (gates, TV, whatever)

We're talking maybe 1000 fans turning up for games involving the most popular teams in Ireland. That's a pretty fecking enormous gulf to make up to even get close to lower league English teams.

Red Hand Devil · 14th April 2008, 16:45

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Originally Posted by mosesfromtala

first chance of any decent player and he's off to England ... but in a way you are right - Rovers moving to Tallaght is interesting for Irish football and something good might develop as a result ...

for years I supported football over GAA but in the end just gave up ... football is competing with a far superior league in England and the GAA which is a great sport and the buzz of dublin games is just unrivalled. 82,000 punters singing their hearts out ...

and pissing all over peoples front doors on the way to Crokers LATE as theyre still stuck in the boozer with 15mins to kick-off

I'm a Tyrone fan by the way and not a Red Hand Commando as some thought

mosesfromtala · 14th April 2008, 16:45

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Originally Posted by gaffs

If more fans go to watch Irish league football there will be more money in the league. Not just from gates, but from TV, sponsorship etc.

If there is more money in the Irish game, then surely they would be able to keep/attract better players and bring in better managers/coaches. Sure, they wont be able to keep the top players but perhaps you wont loose players to lower English Championship or Div One teams if the wages are increased and the standard improves.

the grounds were stuffed 40 years ago by all accounts and the suits put none of it back into the game ... very bad infrastructure , no support for the Dublin District Schoolboy League - the world biggest I think .... they make the English FA look like the perfect machine

gaffs · 14th April 2008, 16:45

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Originally Posted by mosesfromtala

first chance of any decent player and he's off to England ... but in a way you are right - Rovers moving to Tallaght is interesting for Irish football and something good might develop as a result ...

for years I supported football over GAA but in the end just gave up ... football is competing with a far superior league in England and the GAA which is a great sport and the buzz of dublin games is just unrivalled. 82,000 punters singing their hearts out ...

Fair point - GAA is massive.

ralphie88 · 14th April 2008, 16:45

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Originally Posted by brophs

Down with that sort of thing

Careful now!

mosesfromtala · 14th April 2008, 16:48

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Originally Posted by Red Hand Devil

and pissing all over peoples front doors on the way to Crokers LATE as theyre still stuck in the boozer with 15mins to kick-off

I'm a Tyrone fan by the way and not a Red Hand Commando as some thought

That really winds up the away support - I'm always in on time but I think Dublin fans are great, they realise the game isn't going to start without them and stay in the pubs, not one game started on time last year ..

my fist big game was a semi-final in 83(I think) v Tyrone ... always tough f**kers

brophs · 14th April 2008, 16:53

Am I the only one that thinks it's absurd to have a go at people for supporting a foreign team? For most of us, we started following United when we were very young. At that age you'll find it difficult to persuade someone of the merits of pumping money into the domestic leagues, particularly when they usually take their lead from a family member/their mates, who will often support a foreign team.

The idea of supporting your local team out of some sort of sense of duty is misplaced. It isn't just up to the fans to start supporting a club they never have before, it is also up to the FAI etc to give these people a reason to go to these games. I go to a few Eircom League games a season, but no to one particular club, and I have no qualms about saying that I have no real allegiance to any club, and I don't have any time for people who look down on me for not going to Dalymout every other week. It's for everyone to choose who they support, not for the pretentious cunts who think they have a monopoly on being 'real' football fans.

Dublin · 14th April 2008, 16:53

Bloody boggers here now.

Dublin · 14th April 2008, 16:57

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Originally Posted by brophs

Am I the only one that thinks it's absurd to have a go at people for supporting a foreign team? For most of us, we started following United when we were very young. At that age you'll find it difficult to persuade someone of the merits of pumping money into the domestic leagues, particularly when they usually take their lead from a family member/their mates, who will often support a foreign team.

The idea of supporting your local team out of some sort of sense of duty is misplaced. It isn't just up to the fans to start supporting a club they never have before, it is also up to the FAI etc to give these people a reason to go to these games. I go to a few Eircom League games a season, but no to one particular club, and I have no qualms about saying that I have no real allegiance to any club, and I don't have any time for people who look down on me for not going to Dalymout every other week. It's for everyone to choose who they support, not for the pretentious cunts who think they have a monopoly on being 'real' football fans.

I was going to say all that!!
I support United because my brother did and have done so since I was about 8. I used to wish I was born in Salford, but you can't have everything.

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ConnemaraRed Youth Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Galway,Ireland Posts: 108	Wouldn't even bother getting worked up over what the tool has to say. Have met a load of English fellas over at games who make me feel stupid when they start talking about United's history, and also met some fellas from home who have been knobs. I couldn't give a flying toss where you're from so long as you're a United fan!! Last edited by ConnemaraRed : 14th April 2008 at 16:33. Reason: Messed up!!

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manxmanc Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: IOM Posts: 4,207	I know a few top Irish lads from home who travel over from the isle of man on a regular basis, also had a top night last season before bolton with a bunch of irsh in the hotel bar Not a bad word to say about them, that can't be said about people from any other nationality inside OT.

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golden_blunder Manager Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Swimming against a tide of shite Posts: 43,089	Tell you what, we'll take back Liam Whelan, Gregg, Nichol, Irwin, Moran, McGrath, Dunne, McIlroy, Keane, Best, Stapleton and Whiteside (and numerous others). We'll see where United would be without the Irish then. Ignoramus.

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lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Kingdom Posts: 1,141	Well said gb

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mosesfromtala thinking about sligo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the la Posts: 2,480	What the fuck is going on here? I was out tending the spuds and get back to this nonsense. Klebersome , you'd wanna get your act together ... and as for all these english experts on the League of Ireland is Old Trafford the nearest football pitch to your house? English lads over here are the worst cunts in the world. Why? Cause they're lads ... on holidays ... on the piss ..... with different accents. So as a result they stand out like a sore thumb. The same criteria apply to Paddy at Old Trafford ... plus the excitement of being at Old Trafford. Good man Pert by the way.

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brophs Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 2,837	Am I the only one that thinks it's absurd to have a go at people for supporting a foreign team? For most of us, we started following United when we were very young. At that age you'll find it difficult to persuade someone of the merits of pumping money into the domestic leagues, particularly when they usually take their lead from a family member/their mates, who will often support a foreign team. The idea of supporting your local team out of some sort of sense of duty is misplaced. It isn't just up to the fans to start supporting a club they never have before, it is also up to the FAI etc to give these people a reason to go to these games. I go to a few Eircom League games a season, but no to one particular club, and I have no qualms about saying that I have no real allegiance to any club, and I don't have any time for people who look down on me for not going to Dalymout every other week. It's for everyone to choose who they support, not for the pretentious cunts who think they have a monopoly on being 'real' football fans.

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Dublin ....wise choice for a Username or not? Discuss. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: I'm going to Old Trafford next year! Posts: 687	Bloody boggers here now.