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Old 22nd May 2011, 01:07   #1 (permalink)
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The Ticket Prices Thread



Courtesy of Andersred (he asked me to mention that he is happy to correct any inaccuracies) we have data for our ticket prices over the past 8 years.

This covers the last 2 years of price changes under the PLC and then 6 years since the Glazer takeover. The club have been quick to point out that price rises under the Glazers have not been any higher than the equivalent period of time under the PLC:

"However United have insisted that ticket prices under the Glazer regime have not increased as much as they did during the final years of the PLC. Taking into account the new prices, and this season's freeze, United's tickets will have increased on average by 5.8% over the last six years, since the Glazer family completed their takeover. That compares with an average 5.9% increase during the previous six years."
Manchester United increase ticket prices for next season | Football | guardian.co.uk


So basically the average ticket price has gone up around 40% in the 6 years since the Glazer takeover.
Of course, it is worth mentioning that these are just basic ticket prices and do not include the Automatic Cup Scheme, which significantly changes the picture for Season Ticket holders.

So what do you think - are our ticket prices good value or a rip off?
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Old 22nd May 2011, 01:10   #2 (permalink)
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Courtesy of Andersred (he asked me to mention that he is happy to correct any inaccuracies) we have data for our ticket prices over the past 8 years.

This covers the last 2 years of price changes under the PLC and then 6 years since the Glazer takeover. The club have been quick to point out that price rises under the Glazers have not been any higher than the equivalent period of time under the PLC:

"However United have insisted that ticket prices under the Glazer regime have not increased as much as they did during the final years of the PLC. Taking into account the new prices, and this season's freeze, United's tickets will have increased on average by 5.8% over the last six years, since the Glazer family completed their takeover. That compares with an average 5.9% increase during the previous six years."
Manchester United increase ticket prices for next season | Football | guardian.co.uk


So basically the average ticket price has gone up around 40% in the 6 years since the Glazer takeover.
Of course, it is worth mentioning that these are just basic ticket prices and do not include the Automatic Cup Scheme, which significantly changes the picture for Season Ticket holders.

So what do you think - are our ticket prices good value or a rip off?
Rip off. The 05 prices would be exceptable now, round about 26 quid a game. wish they would just drop them.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 01:28   #3 (permalink)
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Be interesting to see some of the figures from 92 during the start of our dominace. Prices are high but when I got my season tickets after the quadrants were built (2006) most of the games were hard to get and spares would get sold on viagogo compared to now where I very much doubt people can successfully sell theirs.
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Old 22nd May 2011, 01:29   #4 (permalink)
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Rip off. The 05 prices would be exceptable now, round about 26 quid a game. wish they would just drop them.
Well cheapest ticket is £27 a game at the moment (£28 next year) - you should move your seat there! Although most tickets in the ground are more expensive to be fair.

Personally I think our basic ticket prices are alright (especially when you look at what other clubs charge) - it is just the ACS which pisses me off as that bumps up the average cost per year significantly.
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There was a lot of talk of major ticket price rises when we were a PLC. How do Uniteds prices compare to their rivals these days?
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Old 22nd May 2011, 01:40   #6 (permalink)
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Be interesting to see some of the figures from 92 during the start of our dominace...
www.red11.org - Ticket Prices Since 1960

These figures are not as detailed at the ones put together by andersred but are a nice historical guideline, - unfortunately we dont have the full picture as there is a bit of a gap between the end of these numbers and the start of the new ones.


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There was a lot of talk of major ticket price rises when we were a PLC. How do Uniteds prices compare to their rivals these days?
I would say they compare quite favorably:
2010 / 2011 English Premier League Ticket Prices | Suite101.com
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One of the newbies chips in with some info ...

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Per mjs020294's question "How do Uniteds prices compare to their rivals these days?"
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Just in case you don't have the date to hand.

top 8 most expensive season tickets for the 2010-11 Premier League season

Arsenal, £1,825
Tottenham, £1,695
Chelsea, £1,210
Newcastle, £975
Man United, £931
Fulham, £899
West Ham, £850
Liverpool, £785


Arsenal's range from £893 to £1825.
Spurs £650 to £1,695
Chelsea's £695 to £1210.
United £513 to £931


Arsenals though considerably higher does include a combined total of 7 CL and FA cup games in addition to the 19 home league games for 26 games altogether. Obviously though that's subject to progression. Worse case is that you only get 3 games (CL group stages) if fail to qualify and FA cup you could go out away in the 3rd round. Carling cup doesn't count. Refunds for games not played.


...and United have the ACS.

From next season if Arsenal's is 6.5% increase across the board and United's is just £1 per game, then Arsenal's cheapest will be £951 compared to United's most expensive £950, though need to consider ACS again.
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The club have been quick to point out that price rises under the Glazers have not been any higher than the equivalent period of time under the PLC
Conveniently counting the price rise decided by the PLC to try and fend off the takeover but which they implemented anyway as a PLC rise, which significantly alters the PLC figures. Also as you said, not counting the ACS, which is just as significant as price rises for a lot of fans in terms of taking money out of their pockets.
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Conveniently counting the price rise decided by the PLC to try and fend off the takeover but which they implemented anyway as a PLC rise, which significantly alters the PLC figures. Also as you said, not counting the ACS, which is just as significant as price rises for a lot of fans in terms of taking money out of their pockets.
What do you mean by 'conveniently'? Why wouldnt you count it in the PLC figures?

In fact I have noticed that some people try to attribute that year's (2005/6) price rises to the Glazers eventhough they hadnt even taken over yet !
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Well because the whole point of the 6 year comparison is to say "Aren't you lucky the Glazers came along, they've raised prices less than the PLC!", when in fact if they hadn't come sniffing, the PLC wouldn't have had to plan to significantly increase prices for 2005/06, by 10.6%. Had they disagreed with it, they could have reversed it, especially seeing as it was only being implemented due to hostile takeover speculation.

They then increased prices by 12.9% and 10.7% in the following two seasons, as well as introducing the odious ACS scheme.
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Well because the whole point of the 6 year comparison is to say "Aren't you lucky the Glazers came along, they've raised prices less than the PLC!" ...
Who is saying that? Im certainly not!

But I think the 6 year comparison is valid and puts things into perspective when people talk about unfair price rises since the takeover - the fact is that our ticket prices have always gone up (just look at the historic data all the back to 1960) regardless of who was in charge.
It is true that prices rose quite fast in the first few years under the Glazers but then in the last 3 years have been virtually flat.

I do agree that the ACS is an unfair policy though.
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The Daily Mash - United raise ticket prices to annoy everyone

MANCHESTER United have confirmed that their £1 ticket price increase was a calculated move based solely on their insatiable desire to annoy.

The club have asked the dark forces behind the jingles in the Mazuma, Go Compare and WeBuyAnyCar adverts to come up with a 30-second song advertising the price hike to maximise the level of irritation.

A club spokesman said: "Whether you're a fan feeling that a Glazer brother has just inched his stubby penis slightly further into your ear or you've no interest in sport and this story indirectly makes you aware of the staggering amounts of cash involved in the business, there's something to furiously bother just about everybody.

"And we don't even need the money. It's going to cost more to tell everybody about the increase than we'll actually make, but if anything that just made us want to do it even more."

After United's 4-1 win over Schalke, the club hired Tom Hanks to come to Old Trafford to read out a press release written by JK Rowling to advertise the rise in prices at an estimated cost of £3.4 million.

To increase the overwhelming contempt for the club, the £1 per ticket raise will not be applied on an even basis, but will range from a 1p to a £4,593 raise depending on what kind of mood the person working in the ticket office is in.

The spokesman added: "Realistically, for a club as big as United with its rich and varied history, there's only so many permutations involving referees, the fixture list and an infiltration of gypsies possible before you run out of ways to be an overwhelming shit.

"But watch this space - next season we're going to go on strike unless the FA make Nani the English goodwill ambassador for the Fair Play league."

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They increased a fair bit before that too, didn't they?

Surely in order to have an accurate picture we should be comparing the rise from, say 1999-2005 too.
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Are there any figures which take into account the VAT changes over the few years? My ticket has gone up £1 a game next year like everyone elses and 75p of that is VAT and the rest to round it off I expect.
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Just the ticket? Price Increases at the Footy | Bagsy Not In - The Football Blog

Last week, Manchester United announced a price increase for match tickets during the 2011-12 campaign. In context, the rise of £1 per game comes a year after the Glazers announced a seasonal ticket freeze, and means prices have increased by an average of 5.8% per year since their takeover of the club. A top price regular season ticket will now cost £950 excluding additional cup costs (supporters must purchase FA Cup and Champions League ties – the latter with a price increase during the knockout rounds – but may opt out of attending League Cup games) and £531 for the cheapest. Two United supporters have their say on the recent announcement…

Ian Stirling, Vice Chair of MUST, the Manchester United Supporters Trust:
If you can think back to Joel Glazers one and only televised interview aired on MUTV he promised to listen to supporters and not hike ticket prices. Broken promises on both counts! You can be forgiven for feeling a little hard done to after the announcement of the cost of your ticket for next season. I can understand why. The Glazers slashed prices at Tampa by up to 30% after listening to the concerns of fans.

This is what Joel Glazer had to say to Tampa fans: “Our organization has spent a lot of time listening to our fans at this time when our team is thriving and our economy is not. As a result, we are now offering several pricing changes in response to our community’s needs.” It was only reasonable to expect they would listen to our concerns. Almost 30,000 supporters contacted Joel Glazer calling on him to at least match the ticket price cut for Manchester United supporters as part of the email campaign co-ordinated by MUST. Unsurprisingly, they didn’t listen….again.

There will be supporters who will be relived, think it represents great value and can easily afford the increase. There may even be people who think you should go and support another club instead, Chelsea maybe? But what you don’t hear is the voice of supporters who are being priced out, lifelong supporters. Their loyalty sold to the highest bidder. Go into any pub in Manchester on match days where the game is televised and it will be filled with supporters who have been priced out.

Fans are now viewed as customers whose only value is how much money can be squeezed out of them. If you turn fans in to customers don’t be surprised if they act like customers. It’s interesting to note that we came out with the second worst customer service charter in the league scoring 8 out of a possible 35. Only Everton were below us due to the fact they don’t have a charter.

This may be seen as only a £1 per game increase but the fact that match goers will see no benefit as the majority will go in to paying the interest on the debt you can understand the anger and frustration of the fans at a time when, as the season draws to a close we should be looking forward celebrating our successes on the pitch.


Nik, current Manchester United Season Ticket Holder:
Last week United announced a £1 price rise for match tickets next season, this news actually came as a pleasant surprise to some Season Tickets holders who had been braced for a substantial price hike following 2 years of virtually flat prices.

Ticket price rises have been a major cause for complaint for United matchgoers since the 2005 takeover. It is easy to understand why after the Glazers implemented hefty rises in their first 2 years in charge to take advantage of the huge demand for tickets at Old Trafford – this left many fans wondering how long they would still be able to afford their seats.

However, the rising prices coupled with recessionary times and a misguided call for a season ticket boycott has seen ticket demand fall. This meant that price rises have been kept in check in recent years and even by this time next year; ticket prices will have only risen by £2 per match since 2008. The club were quick to point out that basic ticket prices had risen an average of 5.8% per year since the Glazer takeover, which is pretty much the same as the equivalent period of time before the takeover!
Still many fans are not happy and several claim that prices are unaffordable and need to come down – the sad reality is that regardless of who has been in charge of the club, ticket prices have only ever moved one way and that is up.

More importantly, while demand for tickets has fallen in recent years, it is still relatively high – in fact United have the highest average attendance of all European teams, a fact that is even more impressive when you realise that several big teams (e.g. Barca and Real) have stadia with a higher capacity than Old Trafford.

At the moment, the ground is still a virtual sell out for the vast majority of matches which means that there is no chance of prices falling. Only when we start to see thousands of unsold seats on a regular basis will the Glazers contemplate cutting prices as they have done this year with their NFL team due to falling ticket sales. As United go from strength to strength with yet another Premier League title virtually in the bag and a third Champions League Final in just 4 years, the demand for seats at Old Trafford does not look likely to fall significantly anytime soon.

Personally, I believe that basic ticket prices at Old Trafford still present relatively good value, especially when compared to other Premier League clubs – if I didnt think that then I wouldn’t buy them!

However, the biggest change in ticketing has not been the prices but the introduction of the Automatic Cup Scheme whereby all Season Ticket holders are forced to buy tickets to any home FA Cup and Champions League matches (Arsenal are the only other club so have a similar plan in place) – this is a scheme so devious that whoever came up with it already has a special seat reserved in Hell!

Rather than ticket prices, the ACS really should be the focus of ire for all United fans, the sooner we are rid of that the better


[BTW I wrote this last part!]
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So the club have announced a ticket price freeze for next season, this means our prices have barely changed for 4 years now (2 years prices frozen, 2 years a £1 per game increase)



also there will now be a 20% discount for those aged 18 to 20 - never got any bloody discount when i was a student !
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Now drop the ACS!!!!!

Pleased with the freeze though.
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Fantastic stuff. Will there be a separate membership for us 18-20s then?
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Ticket prices up for members though by £2 a game, so a non member pays £7 a game more than a season ticket holder
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Season ticket prices have been frozen again for next season - there were rumours around of a price rise but thankfully not!
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Are the members prices staying the same
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Are the members prices staying the same
full info next week apparently
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One point that conveniently gets ignored when the discussion on ticket prices comes up is attracting kids to come to the games and bringing the next generation in. Some people seem concerned we're going to lose out to City in that respect. What nobody seems to mention is that U16 member tickets at Old Trafford are actually cheaper now than they were in 2004. I'm not entirely sure how that happened but it's a good move.

The increase in the full adult prices are disgusting but United do deserve some credit for helping kids afford to go to the games.
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One point that conveniently gets ignored when the discussion on ticket prices comes up is attracting kids to come to the games and bringing the next generation in. Some people seem concerned we're going to lose out to City in that respect. What nobody seems to mention is that U16 member tickets at Old Trafford are actually cheaper now than they were in 2004. I'm not entirely sure how that happened but it's a good move.

The increase in the full adult prices are disgusting but United do deserve some credit for helping kids afford to go to the games.
Good point and one I wasn't aware of.
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I believe ST prices are the same, whilst normal match tickets are up by another £1, not happy.
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