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Old 3rd March 2012, 12:22   #1 (permalink)
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United fans changing football ownership and governance

Red Caf's participation in promoting this would be much appreciated:


Hundreds of Reds have already done this. To play your part just click the following link, put your postcode in the box in the top right corner on this page and it'll create a message for your own MP.

The Government has this week received the response from the football authorities (the FA, Premier League and Football League) to the DCMS Select Committee's report on Football Governance (published in July), and the Government's subsequent response (published in October). As such, the coming days and weeks will be crucial in the ongoing drive to implement lasting reform to the way our game is governed.

Supporters Direct have, with the help of organisations like MUST, lobbied hard for their proposals for a far-reaching club licensing system to be adopted by those in charge of football. It is vital that the Government understands the support amongst football fans for such a system – regardless of what the authorities have offered in their response.

Proper reform and an effective club licensing system could lead to huge benefits for supporters and clubs:
[*]Debt based takeovers like the Glazers’ at United could be outlawed[*]Abusive ownership prevented – the Glazers have now taken more than £500 million pounds out of Manchester United – read more in The Guardian[*]Supporter ownership could be encouraged also with possible right to buy[*]Rights of supporters to be consulted and informed could be enshrined


These and other major reforms would only be possible with a proper independent FA and a proper independent licensing system. It was reported yesterday in the Daily Telegraph and a similar article in The Guardian that the vested interests (clubs and leagues) are resisting change and so we need to make sure Government does not let them off the hook.

We only have a few days to make an impact at this crucial point - but we know that this really works

We know from feedback from MPs that previous lobbying has been incredibly effective through this SpeakOut mechanism.

You just have to put your postcode in the box in the top right corner on this page and it will find your MP and automatically create a message for you to send. Add your address (essential to prove that you are a genuine constituent), click send, and you're done.

Then just ask your friends and family to do the same.
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Old 3rd March 2012, 12:31   #2 (permalink)
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Old 3rd March 2012, 12:31   #3 (permalink)
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Old 3rd March 2012, 12:40   #4 (permalink)
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Old 3rd March 2012, 12:43   #5 (permalink)
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I'll do it if you give back Fulham bear.
Trust me.. I'm as concerned about the Fulham bear as you are..
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Old 3rd March 2012, 16:17   #6 (permalink)
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I actually think that football governance in this country does need a bit of a review so I have signed it
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Old 3rd March 2012, 18:29   #7 (permalink)
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Come on people.
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Old 3rd March 2012, 18:41   #8 (permalink)
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At the last count 2015 messages had been sent by United supporters to 521 different MPs (80% of the 650 MPs in total). View the current total here

You just have to put your postcode in the box in the top right corner on this page and it will find your MP and automatically create a message for you to send. Add your address (essential to prove that you are a genuine constituent), click send, and you're done.
Come on Redcafe, surely this is something we can all get on board with.
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Old 3rd March 2012, 19:13   #9 (permalink)
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Come on Redcafe, surely this is something we can all get on board with.
Bang on.. it only takes 30 seconds and could prove really important!
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Old 3rd March 2012, 20:10   #10 (permalink)
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Done.

And my MP is leading the line in being mithered.
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Old 3rd March 2012, 20:17   #11 (permalink)
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Not in the UK I'm afraid.
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Old 3rd March 2012, 20:20   #12 (permalink)
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Not in the UK I'm afraid.
Nick someone's postcode...

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Old 3rd March 2012, 20:23   #13 (permalink)
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Did this earlier.

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Old 4th March 2012, 00:57   #14 (permalink)
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For anyone wondering, here is the latest list of those who have yet to receive any correspondance, note that it is vital that a real person contacts them.

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Danny Alexander (LD) Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey
Graham Allen (Lab) Nottingham North
Jonathan Ashworth (Lab) Leicester South
William Bain (Lab) Glasgow North East
Margaret Beckett (Lab) Derby South
Joe Benton (Lab) Bootle
Richard Benyon (Con) Newbury
Luciana Berger (Lab/Co-op) Liverpool, Wavertree
Clive Betts (Lab) Sheffield South East
Ben Bradshaw (Lab) Exeter
Tom Brake (LD) Carshalton and Wallington
Angie Bray (Con) Ealing Central and Acton
Gordon Brown (Lab) Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath
Lyn Brown (Lab) West Ham
Chris Bryant (Lab) Rhondda
Conor Burns (Con) Bournemouth West
Lorely Burt (LD) Solihull
Dan Byles (Con) North Warwickshire
Alan Campbell (Lab) Tynemouth
Ronnie Campbell (Lab) Blyth Valley
Martin Caton (Lab) Gower
Jenny Chapman (Lab) Darlington
Tom Clarke (Lab) Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill
Nick Clegg (LD) Sheffield, Hallam
Mike Crockart (LD) Edinburgh West
Jim Cunningham (Lab) Coventry South
Margaret Curran (Lab) Glasgow East
Alistair Darling (Lab) Edinburgh South West
Ian Davidson (Lab/Co-op) Glasgow South West
Geraint Davies (Lab/Co-op) Swansea West
Nick de Bois (Con) Enfield North
Gloria De Piero (Lab) Ashfield
John Denham (Lab) Southampton, Itchen
Brian Donohoe H. (Lab) Central Ayrshire
Jim Dowd (Lab) Lewisham West and Penge
Gemma Doyle (Lab/Co-op) West Dunbartonshire
Iain Duncan Smith (Con) Chingford and Woodford Green
Angela Eagle (Lab) Wallasey
Clive Efford (Lab) Eltham
Julie Elliott (Lab) Sunderland Central
Tobias Ellwood (Con) Bournemouth East
Chris Evans (Lab/Co-op) Islwyn
Paul Farrelly (Lab) Newcastle-under-Lyme
Lynne Featherstone (LD) Hornsey and Wood Green
Frank Field (Lab) Birkenhead
Hywel Francis (Lab) Aberavon
Mike Gapes (Lab/Co-op) Ilford South
Nick Gibb (Con) Bognor Regis and Littlehampton
Michelle Gildernew (SF) Fermanagh and South Tyrone
Cheryl Gillan (Con) Chesham and Amersham
Pat Glass (Lab) North West Durham
Mary Glindon (Lab) North Tyneside
Helen Goodman (Lab) Bishop Auckland
Chris Grayling (Con) Epsom and Ewell
Tom Greatrex (Lab/Co-op) Rutherglen and Hamilton West
Ben Gummer (Con) Ipswich
Peter Hain (Lab) Neath
Robert Halfon (Con) Harlow
Duncan Hames (LD) Chippenham
David Hamilton (Lab) Midlothian
Rebecca Harris (Con) Castle Point
Nick Harvey (LD) North Devon
Dai Havard (Lab) Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney
John Healey (Lab) Wentworth and Dearne
John Hemming (LD) Birmingham, Yardley
Margaret Hodge (Lab) Barking
Philip Hollobone (Con) Kettering
Jim Hood (Lab) Lanark and Hamilton East
Kelvin Hopkins (Lab) Luton North
Margot James (Con) Stourbridge
Siân James C. (Lab) Swansea East
Alan Johnson (Lab) Kingston upon Hull West and Hessle
Joseph Johnson (Con) Orpington
Kevan Jones (Lab) North Durham
Susan Jones Elan (Lab) Clwyd South
Eric Joyce (Ind) Falkirk
Eleanor Laing (Con) Epping Forest
Jessica Lee (Con) Erewash
Julian Lewis (Con) New Forest East
Tim Loughton (Con) East Worthing and Shoreham
Angus MacNeil Brendan (SNP) Na h-Eileanan an Iar
John Mann (Lab) Bassetlaw
Francis Maude (Con) Horsham
Steve McCabe (Lab) Birmingham, Selly Oak
Michael McCann (Lab) East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow
Gregg McClymont (Lab) Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East
Pat McFadden (Lab) Wolverhampton South East
Alison McGovern (Lab) Wirral South
Jim McGovern (Lab) Dundee West
Anne McGuire (Lab) Stirling
Ann McKechin (Lab) Glasgow North
David Miliband (Lab) South Shields
Edward Miliband (Lab) Doncaster North
Madeleine Moon (Lab) Bridgend
Jessica Morden (Lab) Newport East
Graeme Morrice (Lab) Livingston
Anne Morris Marie (Con) Newton Abbot
James Morris (Con) Halesowen and Rowley Regis
Meg Munn (Lab/Co-op) Sheffield, Heeley
Conor Murphy (SF) Newry and Armagh
Sheryll Murray (Con) South East Cornwall
Andrew Murrison (Con) South West Wiltshire
Pamela Nash (Lab) Airdrie and Shotts
Robert Neill (Con) Bromley and Chislehurst
Chi Onwurah (Lab) Newcastle upon Tyne Central
Sandra Osborne (Lab) Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock
Owen Paterson (Con) North Shropshire
Mark Pawsey (Con) Rugby
Teresa Pearce (Lab) Erith and Thamesmead
John Penrose (Con) Weston-super-Mare
Andrew Percy (Con) Brigg and Goole
Stephen Phillips (Con) Sleaford and North Hykeham
Bridget Phillipson (Lab) Houghton and Sunderland South
Eric Pickles (Con) Brentwood and Ongar
Christopher Pincher (Con) Tamworth
Mark Prisk (Con) Hertford and Stortford
Hugh Robertson (Con) Faversham and Mid Kent
Steve Rotheram (Lab) Liverpool, Walton
Frank Roy (Lab) Motherwell and Wishaw
Chris Ruane (Lab) Vale of Clwyd
Dame Ruddock Joan (Lab) Lewisham, Deptford
Andrew Selous (Con) South West Bedfordshire
Jim Sheridan (Lab) Paisley and Renfrewshire North
Gavin Shuker (Lab/Co-op) Luton South
Chris Skidmore (Con) Kingswood
Andy Slaughter (Lab) Hammersmith
Henry Smith (Con) Crawley
John Spellar (Lab) Warley
Mel Stride (Con) Central Devon
Ian Swales (LD) Redcar
Jo Swinson (LD) East Dunbartonshire
Gareth Thomas (Lab/Co-op) Harrow West
Karl Turner (Lab) Kingston upon Hull East
Stephen Twigg (Lab/Co-op) Liverpool, West Derby
Edward Vaizey (Con) Wantage
Keith Vaz (Lab) Leicester East
Theresa Villiers (Con) Chipping Barnet
Charles Walker (Con) Broxbourne
Dave Watts (Lab) St Helens North
Steve Webb (LD) Thornbury and Yate
Mike Weir (SNP) Angus
James Wharton (Con) Stockton South
Eilidh Whiteford (SNP) Banff and Buchan
John Whittingdale (Con) Maldon
Malcolm Wicks (Lab) Croydon North
David Willetts (Con) Havant
Roger Williams (LD) Brecon and Radnorshire
Gavin Williamson (Con) South Staffordshire
Phil Wilson (Lab) Sedgefield
Rob Wilson (Con) Reading East
Pete Wishart (SNP) Perth and North Perthshire
Simon Wright (LD) Norwich South
If possible all mp's should revieve this, it's a football matter in general, so feel free to pass it on to anyone in these areas,
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Old 4th March 2012, 01:38   #15 (permalink)
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Nick someone's postcode...

Go on..

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I tried that and it told me to feck off, only in nicer language.
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Old 4th March 2012, 01:45   #16 (permalink)
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Dame Ruddock Joan (Lab) Lewisham, Deptford

Yes, I live in a shithole...
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Old 4th March 2012, 01:46   #17 (permalink)
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Tried again with a different postcode and it worked
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Old 4th March 2012, 07:11   #18 (permalink)
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Tried again with a different postcode and it worked
Hurrah!

Obviously I don't condone using a bogus postcode, but whilst you are a genuine person and out of the country, then I think it's fair.
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Dame Ruddock Joan (Lab) Lewisham, Deptford

Yes, I live in a shithole...
Good man.
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Hurrah!

Obviously I don't condone using a bogus postcode, but whilst you are a genuine person and out of the country, then I think it's fair.
I even used the postcode for a place I lived for a short time so I feel justified.
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I even used the postcode for a place I lived for a short time so I feel justified.
That all sounds very above board to me...

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Old 4th March 2012, 07:19   #22 (permalink)
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Oh.. and a big thanks to JmRssll555 for putting this in the newbies..

He sounds like the type of chap who needs promoting.. in my very humble opinion.. of course.
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500m wow.....what's value in that
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500m wow.....what's value in that
I feel we could have bought a decent midfielder for that...

At least we've still got the Ronaldo money in the bank, ready to spend...



Cost of Glazers' takeover at Manchester United reaches £500m | David Conn | Football | guardian.co.uk
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Old 4th March 2012, 08:14   #26 (permalink)
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Done, and you can cross Kevan Jones (North Durham) off the list
Nice one.. it'd gathering pace.
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Old 4th March 2012, 09:22   #29 (permalink)
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Dame Ruddock Joan (Lab) Lewisham, Deptford

Yes, I live in a shithole...
I also live in a shithole

Sent one to the same MP
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Old 4th March 2012, 10:49   #32 (permalink)
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As united fans clearly we've a very real situation to be concerned with however this issue is bigger than that and something all football fans should be on board with

The game we all love should be handled with far greater care than it currently is
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Old 4th March 2012, 11:31   #33 (permalink)
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Old 4th March 2012, 11:57   #34 (permalink)
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Old 4th March 2012, 12:26   #35 (permalink)
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As united fans clearly we've a very real situation to be concerned with however this issue is bigger than that and something all football fans should be on board with

The game we all love should be handled with far greater care than it currently is
I totally agree that this issue goes beyond anything that is happening at United, it is about the future of the English game in general.

If we look at the German example, they have a lot of regulations in place to protect the game. I would probably argue that their rules are actually too restrictive, but on the other hand there is not enough scrutiny in England about who is taking ownership of our football clubs and we are now seeing the worst case scenario at a club like Portsmouth.

This can only change by lobbying the government to put pressure on the FA to change so things like these letters to MPs really can make a difference.
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Old 4th March 2012, 12:34   #36 (permalink)
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Get involved everyone, this is a really important subject.
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Old 4th March 2012, 12:38   #37 (permalink)
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Done but I have sat round the table with my MP, the most self centred out of touch man I have met for a long time ( as were the 3 other MPs at the same meeting, in fact to my surprise the most out of touch comments came from a female labour MP, woman of the people, I don't think so, Attila the Hun was a far more respectful and understanding member of the female species )
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As united fans clearly we've a very real situation to be concerned with however this issue is bigger than that and something all football fans should be on board with

The game we all love should be handled with far greater care than it currently is
Amen brother.

Amen.
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Old 4th March 2012, 15:25   #39 (permalink)
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Old 4th March 2012, 15:32   #40 (permalink)
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