United risk of losing Ezekiel Fryers

devilish · 2nd February 2012, 11:31

United risk losing starlet | Manchester United News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports

Sky Sports understands Manchester United starlet Ezekiel Fryers is stalling over a new deal at Old Trafford.

The 19-year-old is out of contract at the end of the season and as yet fresh terms have yet to be agreed.

The news has alerted a host of clubs to Fryers' possible availability in the summer if he fails to agree a new contract.

Fryers has come through the ranks at United and made his full debut in the first-team in the Carling Cup win over Leeds earlier this season.
The versatile defender has gone on to make five further appearances this term and he is highly-regarded within the corridors of Old Trafford.
United are keen to tie down Fryers to a new deal, but the defender is thought to have snubbed their initial offer as he holds out for a better contract.

Talented defender Fryers, 19, is coming to the end of his current deal and could be snatched away in the summer for a small fee, with Tottenham leading the list of interested teams.

Simon Adebesi · 2nd February 2012, 11:34

Are we seeing more of these types of stories / situations now because of the Glazer policy of not sorting out contracts until they are in their final year? Or was it ever thus? I forget.

Zen86 · 2nd February 2012, 11:36

What the fuck is going on, are all our players getting tapped up or something?

Ray Peterson · 2nd February 2012, 11:36

For god's sake. Here we go again!

Pogue Mahone · 2nd February 2012, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Adebesi

Are we seeing more of these types of stories / situations now because of the Glazer policy of not sorting out contracts until they are in their final year? Or was it ever thus? I forget.

I'm inclined to think it was ever thus, only the insatiable demand for football news now means that tabloids are publishing stories about the contract status of kids that have barely kicked a ball for the first team.

Re the Glazer policy, didn't Hernandez get a new contract with several years left to run on his existing one?

Chabon · 2nd February 2012, 11:39

Since that supposed policy were first announced by the papers we've given something like a dozen contracts to players not in their last year.

Simon Adebesi · 2nd February 2012, 11:41

I dont think there is anything to actually worry about here. Morrison was a special case. This will be far more straightforward and is more likely to be a journo making it sound interesting for the purposes of his story, than it actually being anything serious. The problem is the new policy of dealing with contracts at the last minute always gives everything a sense of urgency that it wouldnt have if done a year or so earlier. But this story would be consistent with something as mundane as: "Here Ezekiel, this is the contract we have had drawn up for you." "Looks good boss. Can I take it home and have a look at it and get back to you at the end of the week?" "Sure, no problem." That is stalling.

I am sure he will stay.

Simon Adebesi · 2nd February 2012, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I'm inclined to think it was ever thus, only the insatiable demand for football news now means that tabloids are publishing stories about the contract status of kids that have barely kicked a ball for the first team.

Re the Glazer policy, didn't Hernandez get a new contract with several years left to run on his existing one?

Yes, that is true. I guess there are exceptions.

Minkaro · 2nd February 2012, 11:43

Morrison leaves United, media desperately turns to the next promising youngster.

Solius · 2nd February 2012, 11:44

I honestly don't even think he's that good. I also wonder why he's only regarded highly by people in the corridors. Do we employ people to stand around in the corridors and discuss the potential of players? Whispering forever in the shadows.

scholesy legend · 2nd February 2012, 11:46

The media is following the 'trend' here.

Hectic · 2nd February 2012, 11:49

Zeki has shown a lot of potential I thought, and has impressed outside of the first team. Defensively he has shown promise and his distribution is excellent too.

KM · 2nd February 2012, 11:53

I would say no to that Hectic, if you would have asked me which defender out of the reserves and youth team will make it, I wouldn't have named Zeki from it. He hasn't really stood out for me on reserves and youth level, although has looked decent enough in his first team experiences.

Sultan · 2nd February 2012, 11:56

He's been a steady performer at reserve, and youth levels. Not in the same league of Pogba, Morrison, Wooton, Cole, etc. Unless he's going to be of these late bloomers I can't see him being a mainstay of United's squad.

Most of these stories are planted by agents to attract interest from other clubs. United will pay him what they think he's worth and no more. If he's able to get a better deal elsewhere it's his prerogative.

gormless · 2nd February 2012, 11:57

To be honest, I don't care. He has nowhere near the potential of Morrison or Pogba and he wouldn't have been anywhere near the first team if it wasn't for the injuries. If he leaves he will be average. If he stays he might be able to drag a career out through sheer force of will.

In summary, he can feck off

I'm always right · 2nd February 2012, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Adebesi

Are we seeing more of these types of stories / situations now because of the Glazer policy of not sorting out contracts until they are in their final year? Or was it ever thus? I forget.

Nar it was always this way, going way back to the likes of Ashley Westwood leaving for Crewe etc etc. Some players understand their level and just want to play football.

The only difference in 2012 (or since the Glazers took over) is the fact that the media are now so desperate for any kind of story, the football overkill if you like.

Hectic · 2nd February 2012, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by KM

I would say no to that Hectic, if you would have asked me which defender out of the reserves and youth team will make it, I wouldn't have named Zeki from it. He hasn't really stood out for me on reserves and youth level, although has looked decent enough in his first team experiences.

I thought he's been quite decent in reserves and has shown enough potential to make it into the first team squad. Performed better when he's had the first team opportunities though, some stand out games there.

pocco · 2nd February 2012, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen86

What the fuck is going on, are all our players getting tapped up or something?

I think we're trying to be too clever in not offering contracts until the very last minute. It is rumoured that Petrucci's deal runs out in 5 months and he's our reserve captain. Hopefully he'll sign back up as he's starting to show signs of fulfilling that early potential, probably not too far off the first team.

buildabonfire · 2nd February 2012, 12:29

Employee turns down first pay offer shocker

prateik · 2nd February 2012, 12:36

Decotron · 2nd February 2012, 12:36

Hes promising but most of our players young players are tbf. He's far from the best defensive prospect at the club imo.

Pogue Mahone · 2nd February 2012, 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocco

I think we're trying to be too clever in not offering contracts until the very last minute. It is rumoured that Petrucci's deal runs out in 5 months and he's our reserve captain. Hopefully he'll sign back up as he's starting to show signs of fulfilling that early potential, probably not too far off the first team.

Why is that clever?

towcester_red · 2nd February 2012, 12:39

Good prospect but anyone that doesnt want to be at the club should just fuck off.

Probably media rubbish anyway but im fed up of hearing all this crap about young players and money.

Bring back the class of '92.

pauldyson1uk · 2nd February 2012, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by towcester_red

Good prospect but anyone that doesnt want to be at the club should just fuck off.

Probably media rubbish anyway but im fed up of hearing all this crap about young players and money.

Bring back the class of '92.

Sums it up nicely.

Neutral · 2nd February 2012, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocco

I think we're trying to be too clever in not offering contracts until the very last minute. It is rumoured that Petrucci's deal runs out in 5 months and he's our reserve captain. Hopefully he'll sign back up as he's starting to show signs of fulfilling that early potential, probably not too far off the first team.

You can't blame the club for taking a wait and see approach with Petrucci - he was basically MIA for 2 seasons running.

As for Fryers - his agent simply trying to apply some pressure on United...not fussed.

Simon Adebesi · 2nd February 2012, 12:42

Pogue, its trying to be clever because its a money saving tactic, isnt it? You dont give someone a payrising new contract until you absolutely have to, hence saving the difference in the old salary and the new for a year or however long extra you leave it to renegotiate. That is presumably the reason the Glazers have made that decision.

They must have reasoned that we are basically the top of the pile in terms of football employers so players are unlikely to leave us if we want to keep them. That means we can afford to give them that extra bit of bargaining power that comes with negotiating so close to the expiration of the contract. Whether that reasoning is sound or not will be clearer in the fullness of time.

::sonny:: · 2nd February 2012, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by prateik

This

Crustanoid · 2nd February 2012, 12:43

Media-meddling and agent-whispering are the principal factors at work. If only we could cleanse the game of them

cj_sparky · 2nd February 2012, 12:44

Blackett and McGinty are just as good prospects as Fryers.

Varun_Utd · 2nd February 2012, 12:46

Not fussed. Unlike morrison, there wont be much drama either i reckon.

cw1984 · 2nd February 2012, 12:49

another one?

He'll sign.

GCHQ · 2nd February 2012, 12:51

Frankly with someone like Fryers we should just say take what you're being offered or fuck off.

The strength in depth of the Fryers, Pogba, Tunnicliffe et al age group is probably causing us a ''problem'' because these will all be players demanding fairly significant salaries and the club obviously doesn't have unlimited resources with which to pay them.

Brophs · 2nd February 2012, 12:52

I've not seen anything to suggest he's good enough for us to be bending over backwards to keep.

Badunk · 2nd February 2012, 13:24

@ gormless

Jimy_Hills_Chin · 2nd February 2012, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Adebesi

I dont think there is anything to actually worry about here. Morrison was a special case. This will be far more straightforward and is more likely to be a journo making it sound interesting for the purposes of his story, than it actually being anything serious. The problem is the new policy of dealing with contracts at the last minute always gives everything a sense of urgency that it wouldnt have if done a year or so earlier. But this story would be consistent with something as mundane as: "Here Ezekiel, this is the contract we have had drawn up for you." "Looks good boss. Can I take it home and have a look at it and get back to you at the end of the week?" "Sure, no problem." That is stalling.

I am sure he will stay.

I think that agents are probably advising their young clients that they can earn more money and have better first team opportunities elsewhere and it is true. Look at Ravel's contract at West Ham, it is fucking obscene.

I am not that big on Fryers as a player anyway but I think that we will see more and more young players leaving our ranks under these circumstances.

Kelvin · 2nd February 2012, 13:56

he is not even that good yet, if he ask for some unreasonable demands like morrison, fuck him off.

davisjw · 2nd February 2012, 14:03

Let's just close the academy.

marjen · 2nd February 2012, 14:06

Oh noes, the horror. What next?

I hope Tomasz Kuszczak or Rhain Davies doesn't stall on their next contract.

Makki · 2nd February 2012, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Why is that clever?

If you delay a pay rise for as long as possible you'll end up paying less in wages over the course of a career.

gambit28 · 2nd February 2012, 14:50

I reported this last week and no one cared. Doesn't he have the same agent as Morrison.

2nd February 2012, 11:31	#1 (permalink)
devilish Protomuppet Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cnut's home Posts: 25,818	United risk of losing Ezekiel Fryers United risk losing starlet \| Manchester United News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers \| Sky Sports Sky Sports understands Manchester United starlet Ezekiel Fryers is stalling over a new deal at Old Trafford. The 19-year-old is out of contract at the end of the season and as yet fresh terms have yet to be agreed. The news has alerted a host of clubs to Fryers' possible availability in the summer if he fails to agree a new contract. Fryers has come through the ranks at United and made his full debut in the first-team in the Carling Cup win over Leeds earlier this season. The versatile defender has gone on to make five further appearances this term and he is highly-regarded within the corridors of Old Trafford. United are keen to tie down Fryers to a new deal, but the defender is thought to have snubbed their initial offer as he holds out for a better contract. Talented defender Fryers, 19, is coming to the end of his current deal and could be snatched away in the summer for a small fee, with Tottenham leading the list of interested teams.

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2nd February 2012, 11:34	#2 (permalink)
Simon Adebesi First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sanctity, like a cat, abhors filth. Posts: 6,061	Are we seeing more of these types of stories / situations now because of the Glazer policy of not sorting out contracts until they are in their final year? Or was it ever thus? I forget.

2nd February 2012, 11:36	#3 (permalink)
Zen86 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: its a nice day for a.. white wedding Posts: 4,913	What the fuck is going on, are all our players getting tapped up or something?

2nd February 2012, 11:36	#4 (permalink)
Ray Peterson Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: meh Posts: 2,488	For god's sake. Here we go again!

2nd February 2012, 11:39	#6 (permalink)
Chabon Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,788	Since that supposed policy were first announced by the papers we've given something like a dozen contracts to players not in their last year.

2nd February 2012, 11:41	#7 (permalink)
Simon Adebesi First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sanctity, like a cat, abhors filth. Posts: 6,061	I dont think there is anything to actually worry about here. Morrison was a special case. This will be far more straightforward and is more likely to be a journo making it sound interesting for the purposes of his story, than it actually being anything serious. The problem is the new policy of dealing with contracts at the last minute always gives everything a sense of urgency that it wouldnt have if done a year or so earlier. But this story would be consistent with something as mundane as: "Here Ezekiel, this is the contract we have had drawn up for you." "Looks good boss. Can I take it home and have a look at it and get back to you at the end of the week?" "Sure, no problem." That is stalling. I am sure he will stay.

2nd February 2012, 11:43	#9 (permalink)
Minkaro First Team Sub Join Date: May 2009 Location: Shrewsbury Posts: 5,765	Morrison leaves United, media desperately turns to the next promising youngster.

2nd February 2012, 11:44	#10 (permalink)
Solius Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fucker shits Posts: 40,586	I honestly don't even think he's that good. I also wonder why he's only regarded highly by people in the corridors. Do we employ people to stand around in the corridors and discuss the potential of players? Whispering forever in the shadows.

2nd February 2012, 11:46	#11 (permalink)
scholesy legend Incorrigible pest Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The 'Greater' Manchester Posts: 4,946	The media is following the 'trend' here.

2nd February 2012, 11:49	#12 (permalink)
Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mike Phelan WILL kill you. Posts: 6,845	Zeki has shown a lot of potential I thought, and has impressed outside of the first team. Defensively he has shown promise and his distribution is excellent too.

2nd February 2012, 11:53	#13 (permalink)
KM First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Q.P.R Posts: 14,862	I would say no to that Hectic, if you would have asked me which defender out of the reserves and youth team will make it, I wouldn't have named Zeki from it. He hasn't really stood out for me on reserves and youth level, although has looked decent enough in his first team experiences.

2nd February 2012, 11:56	#14 (permalink)
Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing Posts: 31,452	He's been a steady performer at reserve, and youth levels. Not in the same league of Pogba, Morrison, Wooton, Cole, etc. Unless he's going to be of these late bloomers I can't see him being a mainstay of United's squad. Most of these stories are planted by agents to attract interest from other clubs. United will pay him what they think he's worth and no more. If he's able to get a better deal elsewhere it's his prerogative.

2nd February 2012, 11:57	#15 (permalink)
gormless Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: comfortable and settled in my rut Posts: 3,279	To be honest, I don't care. He has nowhere near the potential of Morrison or Pogba and he wouldn't have been anywhere near the first team if it wasn't for the injuries. If he leaves he will be average. If he stays he might be able to drag a career out through sheer force of will. In summary, he can feck off

2nd February 2012, 12:29	#19 (permalink)
buildabonfire Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,196	Employee turns down first pay offer shocker

2nd February 2012, 12:36	#20 (permalink)
prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,029

2nd February 2012, 12:36	#21 (permalink)
Decotron First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: I am not a man......................I am Cantona Posts: 20,025	Hes promising but most of our players young players are tbf. He's far from the best defensive prospect at the club imo.

2nd February 2012, 12:39	#23 (permalink)
towcester_red Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: wayne rooney wonderland Posts: 3,951	Good prospect but anyone that doesnt want to be at the club should just fuck off. Probably media rubbish anyway but im fed up of hearing all this crap about young players and money. Bring back the class of '92.

2nd February 2012, 12:42	#26 (permalink)
Simon Adebesi First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sanctity, like a cat, abhors filth. Posts: 6,061	Pogue, its trying to be clever because its a money saving tactic, isnt it? You dont give someone a payrising new contract until you absolutely have to, hence saving the difference in the old salary and the new for a year or however long extra you leave it to renegotiate. That is presumably the reason the Glazers have made that decision. They must have reasoned that we are basically the top of the pile in terms of football employers so players are unlikely to leave us if we want to keep them. That means we can afford to give them that extra bit of bargaining power that comes with negotiating so close to the expiration of the contract. Whether that reasoning is sound or not will be clearer in the fullness of time.

2nd February 2012, 12:43	#28 (permalink)
Crustanoid First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,588	Media-meddling and agent-whispering are the principal factors at work. If only we could cleanse the game of them

2nd February 2012, 12:44	#29 (permalink)
cj_sparky Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: "At times when I've watched him, I wonder if he's being controlled by a 10 year old in the crowd with a playstation console" Gary Neville talking about David Luiz Posts: 4,068	Blackett and McGinty are just as good prospects as Fryers.

2nd February 2012, 12:46	#30 (permalink)
Varun_Utd First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Villa Posts: 5,145	Not fussed. Unlike morrison, there wont be much drama either i reckon.

2nd February 2012, 12:49	#31 (permalink)
cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guiding Cardiff to the promised land just so I can wipe that smug fucking grin of Cider's face. Posts: 24,006	another one? He'll sign.

2nd February 2012, 12:51	#32 (permalink)
GCHQ Glazer Crevice Headquarters Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sir Alex Ferguson, Ben Foster, Hayley McQueen..... they can't all be wrong! Posts: 3,875	Frankly with someone like Fryers we should just say take what you're being offered or fuck off. The strength in depth of the Fryers, Pogba, Tunnicliffe et al age group is probably causing us a ''problem'' because these will all be players demanding fairly significant salaries and the club obviously doesn't have unlimited resources with which to pay them.

2nd February 2012, 12:52	#33 (permalink)
Brophs Brewlio's fugly sister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Why don't we just kill Badger? Posts: 27,706	I've not seen anything to suggest he's good enough for us to be bending over backwards to keep.

2nd February 2012, 13:24	#34 (permalink)
Badunk First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kagawacafe.net Posts: 5,789	@ gormless

2nd February 2012, 13:56	#36 (permalink)
Kelvin Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21,510	he is not even that good yet, if he ask for some unreasonable demands like morrison, fuck him off.

2nd February 2012, 14:03	#37 (permalink)
davisjw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,867	Let's just close the academy.

2nd February 2012, 14:06	#38 (permalink)
marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	Oh noes, the horror. What next? I hope Tomasz Kuszczak or Rhain Davies doesn't stall on their next contract.

2nd February 2012, 14:50	#40 (permalink)
gambit28 Desperately wants to be a Muppet Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Asagan and SagatX destroyed, now worship COX! Posts: 24,714	I reported this last week and no one cared. Doesn't he have the same agent as Morrison.