Utd Aggro

Utd heap · 26th July 2008, 18:32

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

Aye, don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against it. I'll gladly meet up with mates for a drink before a game. Just that I prefer to enjoy the game whilst sober, then if I wanted to, I'd go and get pissed afterwards.

In my ideal world everyone would do the same. but then in my ideal world, the booze would also be free, and your glass would automatically refill everytime you banged it on the table

It's all part of the day for me...

I'll meet up with the group of lads i go with, and drinking is just part of it.

It may enduce twattish behaviour, but that's always been a part of Football, and if i'm honest, i think it needs to stay to keep it's soul!?
Obviously not smacking a kid, but other examples.

noodlehair · 26th July 2008, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Utd heap

It may enduce twattish behaviour, but that's always been a part of Football, and if i'm honest, i think it needs to stay to keep it's soul!?
Obviously not smacking a kid, but other examples.

I don't know. There's a difference between acting like drunk footbal fans, and twattish behaviour, but you'll always get the odd group who take one into the other.

Being loud, supporting your team, and swearing at people slightly more than usual isn't going to harm anyone. It might annoy a few people, but it's generally part and parcel of being at a footy game.

Causing damage to property, charging bars and the like though, can cause serious distress to anyone caught up in the middle, and costs people time and money to fix.

I don't really think we'd lose anything without the later.

dicko · 26th July 2008, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Nem 7

This is the attitude that has resulted in all-seaters.

Well done, thugs.

All seaters came in as a result of the Taylor Report. The Taylor Report was into ground safety after Hillsborough.

Utd heap · 26th August 2008, 19:08

My mate got a slap coming out of Fratton yesterday.

Deserved it to be fair, we were dancing about and that, but he was wearing an Arentina flag, and Portsmouth is the type of place where that does'nt go down well...

I also just wanted to bump the thread as Fred and Ralphie have'nt added to it yet

Rams · 26th August 2008, 19:15

a slap?

Utd heap · 26th August 2008, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Rams

a slap?

Would a twatting explain it more to you my friend?

Rams · 26th August 2008, 19:21

Is the flag still okay?

Utd heap · 26th August 2008, 19:22

The flag is fine...

The police ofcourse conveniently did not see what happened despite being 5 yards away.

manux399 · 26th August 2008, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Ander8on

Our travelling support is definitely one of the highlights of being a Manchester United supporter.

I enjoy reading stories during the 70's & 80's where fans used to hitch-hike there way to games, would have loved to have been around in them days.

One of funniest aways was turning up at West Ham in a hearse around 85 season. My mate Mark had a part time job delivering hearses all over the UK. He had to deliver this particular one to some Edmonton on the Monday, so cunningly he decided to deliver it on the Sunday of the game. So three of us went in the Hearse and two others in mark's brothers Escort (class eh). Best bit was seeing the faces of the fans as Gibby laid in the back motionless like a corpse as mark drove down Upton Park road to the multi storey..!

manux399 · 26th August 2008, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Utd heap

My mate got a slap coming out of Fratton yesterday.

Deserved it to be fair, we were dancing about and that, but he was wearing an Arentina flag, and Portsmouth is the type of place where that does'nt go down well...

Death wish or what..!

Ander8on · 26th August 2008, 20:12

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Originally Posted by manux399

One of funniest aways was turning up at West Ham in a hearse around 85 season. My mate Mark had a part time job delivering hearses all over the UK. He had to deliver this particular one to some Edmonton on the Monday, so cunningly he decided to deliver it on the Sunday of the game. So three of us went in the Hearse and two others in mark's brothers Escort (class eh). Best bit was seeing the faces of the fans as Gibby laid in the back motionless like a corpse as mark drove down Upton Park road to the multi storey..!

Brilliant, can just picture hordes of hammers fans removing their flatcaps in respect.

I guess European aways is the closest we can get to turning back the clock in terms of pratting about in city's that are unprepared for 'English Twits'.

I was in Milan season before last & me and the lads got into a taxi demanding to be taken to the nearest strip club, no word of a lie, the taxi driver literally did a u turn & stopped - club was on the opposite side of the road & tried charging us 8 euros. Me and the lads refused to get out, he literally had to wrestle each one of us out of his cab. And when he pulled one person out, they would run around the other side of the cab & got back in, so funny.

manux399 · 26th August 2008, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Ander8on

Brilliant, can just picture hordes of hammers fans removing their flatcaps in respect.

I guess European aways is the closest we can get to turning back the clock in terms of pratting about in city's that are unprepared for 'English Twits'.

I was in Milan season before last & me and the lads got into a taxi demanding to be taken to the nearest strip club, no word of a lie, the taxi driver literally did a u turn & stopped - club was on the opposite side of the road & tried charging us 8 euros. Me and the lads refused to get out, he literally had to wrestle each one of us out of his cab. And when he pulled one person out, they would run around the other side of the cab & got back in, so funny.

Norwich and Ipswich aways in the 70's and 80's live in the memory, United convoy through the country and quiet country pubs taken over by hundreds of reds.! Not to mention taking the away end (Well ground) at Norwich two seasons running in 74 and 75..!!

ralphie88 · 26th August 2008, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Nem 7

This is the attitude that has resulted in all-seaters.

Well done, thugs.

No it's not. The reason we have all-seater stadia is because of police negligence that lead to the dreaths of 96 innocent football fans and a knee-jerk reaction by a Lord Chief Justice who didn't really understand the issue.

Utd heap · 26th August 2008, 20:48

70,000 people can bounce up and down at a rock gig at OT, but it's too dangerous with football fans??

The fact we all stand at aways anyway make having seats more dangerous, got clattered on seats last night celebrating the goal.

ralphie88 · 26th August 2008, 20:50

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

I've never really understood the idea of getting pissed up before the game, or even during it. It just takes away from the experience, and causes increased levels of twattish behaviour.

Not that I've ever noticed it in any significance with our away support. I don't get to away games unless they're localish ones I manage to scrounge a ticket in the home end for, but I can't say I've noticed any hostility from our mob

Hmmm.... hang around the away turnstiles at kick off and you'll see that United are the roughest away fans in the land. Like it or loathe it, it's the truth.

I've spoken to numerous Safety Officers and Football Liason Officers and United are considered the worst by a long way. After that City, Villa and Newcastle apparently.

Utd heap · 26th August 2008, 21:00

'We're the best behaved supporters in the land'

'But we're a right bunch of bastards when we lose'

ralphie88 · 26th August 2008, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Utd heap

70,000 people can bounce up and down at a rock gig at OT, but it's too dangerous with football fans??

The fact we all stand at aways anyway make having seats more dangerous, got clattered on seats last night celebrating the goal.

Trafford Borough Council did a risk assessment on persistent standing in the Stretty about 5 years ago. The conclusion - persistent standing was low-risk. Sitting down and jumping up at moments of excitement was medium risk.

Of course, the highest risk to fans at OT is those muppets who leave early and stand on the stairs waiting to get out - one of these days there's going to be a goal, a crowd surge, and lots of broken bones.

Utd heap · 26th August 2008, 21:03

Were you not at the match yesterday Ralphie?

RedPhil1957 · 26th August 2008, 21:06

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

Trafford Borough Council did a risk assessment on persistent standing in the Stretty about 5 years ago. The conclusion - persistent standing was low-risk. Sitting down and jumping up at moments of excitement was medium risk.

Of course, the highest risk to fans at OT is those muppets who leave early and stand on the stairs waiting to get out - one of these days there's going to be a goal, a crowd surge, and lots of broken bones.

very true!

Ander8on · 26th August 2008, 21:09

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

The conclusion - persistent standing was low-risk. Sitting down and jumping up at moments of excitement was medium risk.

This makes sense, it seems no matter how many tests or recommendations made from senior safety officials, I dont we'll ever see an all standing section again, piss poor.

ralphie88 · 26th August 2008, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Utd heap

Were you not at the match yesterday Ralphie?

I was in Athens. A guest of Panathinaikos in fact.

Utd heap · 26th August 2008, 21:16

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

I was in Athens. A guest of Panathinaikos in fact.

Fancy.
You missed a class one.

Best bar Blackburn that i've been too i reckon.

Will be non comparible to the mongfests that Liverpool and Chelsea will be.

manux399 · 26th August 2008, 21:39

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

Of course, the highest risk to fans at OT is those muppets who leave early and stand on the stairs waiting to get out - one of these days there's going to be a goal, a crowd surge, and lots of broken bones.

It's already happened, the Ibrox disaster was exactly that.

ralphie88 · 26th August 2008, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Utd heap

Fancy.
You missed a class one.

Best bar Blackburn that i've been too i reckon.

Will be non comparible to the mongfests that Liverpool and Chelsea will be.

Umm interesting. I went last season and it was definitely a better atmosphere now they have a roof. But to be honest the away fans didn't come across that well on the telly (not that that means anything).

I thought Villa away in the Cup last season was the best atmosphere. Blackburn was quality for the carnage that ensued following the equaliser though.

Utd heap · 26th August 2008, 21:43

Roof improves it no end, but you could tell just by looking around queing to get in that it was a clued up away end.

All the tickets in the right hands for once.

Aye, i got nicked outside Villa, so it was Blackburn for me!

26th August 2008, 19:08	#44 (permalink)
Utd heap First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: At an away ground near you... Posts: 8,278	My mate got a slap coming out of Fratton yesterday. Deserved it to be fair, we were dancing about and that, but he was wearing an Arentina flag, and Portsmouth is the type of place where that does'nt go down well... I also just wanted to bump the thread as Fred and Ralphie have'nt added to it yet

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Rams extremely handsome, intelligent, gay and talented poster Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: midtable anonymity Posts: 27,024	a slap?

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Utd heap First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: At an away ground near you... Posts: 8,278	The flag is fine... The police ofcourse conveniently did not see what happened despite being 5 yards away.

26th August 2008, 20:48	#54 (permalink)
Utd heap First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: At an away ground near you... Posts: 8,278	70,000 people can bounce up and down at a rock gig at OT, but it's too dangerous with football fans?? The fact we all stand at aways anyway make having seats more dangerous, got clattered on seats last night celebrating the goal.

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Utd heap First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: At an away ground near you... Posts: 8,278	'We're the best behaved supporters in the land' 'But we're a right bunch of bastards when we lose'

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Utd heap First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: At an away ground near you... Posts: 8,278	Were you not at the match yesterday Ralphie?

26th August 2008, 21:43	#65 (permalink)
Utd heap First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: At an away ground near you... Posts: 8,278	Roof improves it no end, but you could tell just by looking around queing to get in that it was a clued up away end. All the tickets in the right hands for once. Aye, i got nicked outside Villa, so it was Blackburn for me!