Wayne Rooney

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 26th March 2008, 15:53

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

I think it will make him a better player.

Agreed

Plechazunga · 26th March 2008, 15:53

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

I think it will make him a better player.

Maybe, but you smear jam on your knob at night in the hope that hedgehogs will suck you off

Sam#1 · 26th March 2008, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Because we waste what we create far more than they do. .

Yep, and Spurs score every chance they get.

CnutOfAllCnuts · 26th March 2008, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Plechazunga

Maybe, but you smear jam on your knob at night in the hope that hedgehogs will suck you off

And one day it will happen, and I will be laughing, and you will be wondering just how good it feels!

Pogue Mahone · 26th March 2008, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Which has no bearing on how much they create as compared to us.

Fucking hell, Rubber-man, you're being deliberately obtuse now, are you? This is not about how many chances they create, this about the type of chance they create (i.e. they only ever create half-chances

). Cause that's the only way you could try to justify a low chance conversion rate for Berbatov.

And there's absolutely no way that they consistently create chances that are more difficult to finish than the chances that United create. Seriously, that's crazy talk.

Pogue Mahone · 26th March 2008, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Instant Karma

So Ronaldo/Nani/Scholes are better than Lennon/Malbranque/Jenas only because they create 'more chances' over a season and not 'better chances' ? They are better footballers because quantity is more and quality is just the same ?

I'm still waiting for that explanation.

In your own time.

Plechazunga · 26th March 2008, 15:58

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

And one day it will happen, and I will be laughing, and you will be wondering just how good it feels!

I'll be able to console myself that playing Rooney out of position did in fact feck him up

hang on...

CnutOfAllCnuts · 26th March 2008, 15:59

You could argue it is easier to score for Spurs than for United, as the opposition is more likely to play a more open game against Spurs than against United.

On the other hand, United players have better team mates than Spurs players, which will go some way to cancel it out.

CnutOfAllCnuts · 26th March 2008, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Plechazunga

I'll be able to console myself that playing Rooney out of position did in fact feck him up

hang on...

Do you reckon we should buy Kuyt to play as the out and out striker?

Plechazunga · 26th March 2008, 16:01

Kuyt's banging your mum

CnutOfAllCnuts · 26th March 2008, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Plechazunga

Kuyt's banging your mum

I know

He's got a touch like a rapist, according to her

She looked a bit worried when I said that I already knew that

Plechazunga · 26th March 2008, 16:03

Feed Me · 26th March 2008, 16:05

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

They are revolutionizing football in a way that should be admired and respected.

There is nothing revolutionary about drawing games 4-4. It is filed under the chapter called, "Can't fecking defend and can fecking attack" in the Footballing Handbook.

It is refreshing to see a side play such open football though.

pert · 26th March 2008, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Agreed

Seconded

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 26th March 2008, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

Yep, and Spurs score every chance they get.

Our forward line's total shots in EPL:
Rooney 65
Ronaldo 110
Tevez 71
Saha 19

265

Total:
Spurs:
Berbatov 69
Keane 62
Bent 25
Defoe 36

192

You were saying?

Pogue Mahone · 26th March 2008, 16:07

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

There is nothing revolutionary about drawing games 4-4. It is filed under the chapter called, "Can't fecking defend and can fecking attack" in the Footballing Handbook.

It is refreshing to see a side play such open football though.

I'm guessing you didn't pick up on the irony in Sam's post then?

Feed Me · 26th March 2008, 16:07

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

If Rooney plays like he did against Liverpool for the rest of the season, without scoring a single goal, would that not make you lot happy? Or would that disappoint you?

If Rooney kept fluffing one on ones (difficult or not) his confidence would eventually fall. Strikers need goals for confidence. How many times does Rooney's performance level suddenly up by 10-20% after he has scored a goal? The answer is: frequently.

Also, it is no surprise Rooney gave such a snappy performance - Liverpool is all the motivation he needs.

Feed Me · 26th March 2008, 16:08

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I'm guessing you didn't pick up on the irony in Sam's post then?

Guess not.

Pogue Mahone · 26th March 2008, 16:08

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Our forward line's total shots in EPL:
Rooney 65
Ronaldo 110
Tevez 71
Saha 19

265

Total:
Spurs:
Berbatov 69
Keane 62
Bent 25

156

You were saying?

Fuck's sake.

Chance conversion % is not affected by how many chances a player gets!!

Sam#1 · 26th March 2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Our forward line's total shots in EPL:
Rooney 65
Ronaldo 110
Tevez 71
Saha 19

265

Total:
Spurs:
Berbatov 69
Keane 62
Bent 25

156

You were saying?

Errrm, that's a little unfair, we have one more player than them.

Take out the fact that Ronaldo shoots at every opportunity going, whether it even be a half chance, and it's about equal.

Count Duckula · 26th March 2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Our forward line's total shots in EPL:
Rooney 65
Ronaldo 110
Tevez 71
Saha 19

265

Total:
Spurs:
Berbatov 69
Keane 62
Bent 25

156

You were saying?

Considering you mention there Spurs' strikers only, and yet you include one of our wingers, then that's a pretty falso statistic. Include people like Malbranque and Huddlestone in there if you want to start putting in midfielders.

And once you start doing that then the statistic becomes meaningless. Keep it to strikers -- the two main ones and their backup.

Then it is:

Our forward line's total shots in EPL:
Rooney 65
Tevez 71
Saha 19

155

Spurs:
Berbatov 69
Keane 62
Bent 25

156

That's a little closer, no?

Plechazunga · 26th March 2008, 16:10

I'm finding it hard to take this thread seriously

I keep wanting to post stupid things

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 26th March 2008, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Fucking hell, Rubber-man, you're being deliberately obtuse now, are you? This is not about how many chances they create, this about the type of chance they create (i.e. they only ever create half-chances

). Cause that's the only way you could try to justify a low chance conversion rate for Berbatov.

And there's absolutely no way that they consistently create chances that are more difficult to finish than the chances that United create. Seriously, that's crazy talk.

Check my post with the number of shots on goal their forwards have had compared to ours. Then come back and tell me how Spurs create as much as we do. Or chances as good, with a far inferior midfield

Pogue Mahone · 26th March 2008, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Plechazunga

I'm finding it hard to take this thread seriously

I keep wanting to post stupid things

Really? That's not like you at all.

ecantona7 · 26th March 2008, 16:11

Is Berbatov vs. Rooney the new Carrick vs. Hargreaves?

Pogue Mahone · 26th March 2008, 16:12

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Check my post with the number of shots on goal their forwards have had compared to ours. Then come back and tell me how Spurs create as much as we do.

Has anyone got one of those smilies of someone smacking their head off a brick wall?

*sigh*

Chance conversion % is not affected by how many chances a player gets!!

CasaStreets · 26th March 2008, 16:12

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Originally Posted by Instant Karma

He will score more goals next season once Nani and Anderson settle into the side. At the moment all the burden of creativity and goal scoring rests on the shoulders of two 22 year olds. Every game is a big game for Ronaldo and Rooney. Atleast one of them has to have a good game for us to win.

Never really thought of it like that, but that's almost true without exception.

Plechazunga · 26th March 2008, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

Considering you mention there Spurs' strikers only, and yet you include one of our wingers, then that's a pretty falso statistic. Include people like Malbranque and Huddlestone in there if you want to start putting in midfielders.

And once you start doing that then the statistic becomes meaningless. Keep it to strikers -- the two main ones and their backup.

Then it is:

Our forward line's total shots in EPL:
Rooney 65
Tevez 71
Saha 19

155

Spurs:
Berbatov 69
Keane 62
Bent 25

156

That's a little closer, no?

Thing is, Ronaldo's not really played as a midfielder these days. He's a sort of inside forward. Somtimes an out-and-out forward.

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Really? That's not like you at all.

It's probably the funny weather

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