We deserved to win it

Cold_Boy · 5th February 2012, 18:09

Didn't we?

Not the best performance ever.

And how average are Chelsea?

bsc · 5th February 2012, 18:11

Doubted SAF's substitutions in the second half, but in retrospect he got both correct.

Feels weird to be slightly disappointed with coming from three goals down away to Chelsea. Great spirit shown by the players when it mattered.

Jimy_Hills_Chin · 5th February 2012, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

Didn't we?

Not the best performance ever.

And how average are Chelsea?

You will just have to make do with a moral victory.

amolbhatia100 · 5th February 2012, 18:15

No we didn't. We defended like clowns.

We deserve plaudits for our show of character post Chelsea's third goal, though.

Fletcher's Jilted Lover · 5th February 2012, 18:18

We didn't deserve to win it, that is the worst Chelski team we've seen for years and they found themselves 3-0 up. We were so sloppy in the first half, Giggs and Rooney inparticular. These two seemed to constantly make wrong decisions, it's common for Giggs but Rooney needs to get his act together.

Scholes showed the difference in central midfield controlling the game when he came on, it just shows how much we need a central midfielder who is younger as Giggs isn't one no matter how much he plays there. Hopefully Cleverley can provide that spark as Carrick and Cleverley on paper looks like a good partnership.

Why on earth Rafael was taken off I don't know. He was immense.

Kelvin · 5th February 2012, 18:20

the match stat will show chelsea had more shots on goal than us. so its really hard to dispute we deserved to win, we were lucky not to lose actually in the end.

mjs020294 · 5th February 2012, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Fletcher's Jilted Lover

Why on earth Rafael was taken off I don't know. He was immense.

He was taken off in a tactical more, and Valencia is pretty damned good at right back as well. It was either take Giggs off or switch Valencia to RB.

Guy Incognito · 5th February 2012, 18:21

Should have handled that match with a bit more care. Sloppy goals conceded but made up for it upfront with purpose.

gza the genius · 5th February 2012, 18:23

Our defending was woeful for their 2nd and 3rd goals. If we had started the half well we would have won.

Inigo Montoya · 5th February 2012, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

Didn't we?

Not the best performance ever.

And how average are Chelsea?

No we didn't.You can't play like a Barcelona in midfield yet defend like Wigan and get away with it.

It's an irrelevance how poor Chelsea are ultimately I'm concerned with how we play.We are a work in progress

Cold_Boy · 5th February 2012, 18:25

I mean Chelsea going 3-0 up was pretty wierd.

They really didn't do anything.

It was spastic defending by us and bad luck for 2 own goals.

While if Rooney had at least 2-3 of the 7 final passes(If I counted correctly) right, it would have been a completely different story.

adexkola · 5th February 2012, 18:27

If my aunt had balls she's be my uncle

Fletcher's Jilted Lover · 5th February 2012, 18:27

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Originally Posted by mjs020294

He was taken off in a tactical more, and Valencia is pretty damned good at right back as well. It was either take Giggs off or switch Valencia to RB.

Giggs should've been taken off. I want my best player on the pitch to actually stay on the pitch.

cj4_elmo · 5th February 2012, 18:27

We're probably the only bunch of fans in the world who would have something to complain about only getting a draw when we're 3-0 down at Stamford Bridge.

Crumpsall Red · 5th February 2012, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

Didn't we?

Not the best performance ever.

And how average are Chelsea?

Course we did, best team by a fuckin mile. Went to sleep for 5 mins and got punished, it can happen. We played all the football.

amolbhatia100 · 5th February 2012, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

I mean Chelsea going 3-0 up was pretty wierd.

They really didn't do anything.

It was spastic defending by us and bad luck for 2 own goals.

While if Rooney had at least 2-3 of the 7 final passes(If I counted correctly) right, it would have been a completely different story.

I'd say that we should have won because Chelsea were there for the taking. They didn't seem to have any real plan to win the match apart from hoping Sturridge shits on some defender or we save them the trouble and do their goal scoring for them, both of which happened sadly.

But we didn't deserve to win.

Plechazunga · 5th February 2012, 18:29

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Originally Posted by amolbhatia100

No we didn't. We defended like clowns.

We deserve plaudits for our show of character post Chelsea's third goal, though.

I agree with this

We were very sloppy in the first half going forward, and crap at the back in the second

Fortunately, we're Man United, and Chelsea are average

Mick1991 · 5th February 2012, 18:29

I thought our attitude wasn't up to scratch for the first 50, it was so easy and they were so blunt I felt we had began to take them lightly.

Going three down was a good kick up the arse.

Denis' cuff · 5th February 2012, 18:29

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Originally Posted by Fletcher's Jilted Lover

We didn't deserve to win it, that is the worst Chelski team we've seen for years and they found themselves 3-0 up. We were so sloppy in the first half, Giggs and Rooney inparticular. These two seemed to constantly make wrong decisions, it's common for Giggs but Rooney needs to get his act together.
Scholes showed the difference in central midfield controlling the game when he came on, it just shows how much we need a central midfielder who is younger as Giggs isn't one no matter how much he plays there. Hopefully Cleverley can provide that spark as Carrick and Cleverley on paper looks like a good partnership.

Why on earth Rafael was taken off I don't know. He was immense.

mom?

he's been playing like this for nearly a couple of months - can barely get a pass to a red shirt and move after move breaks down with him

lem8sh · 5th February 2012, 18:31

Any team that defends like that doesn't deserve anything. Luckily we got a point.

noodlehair · 5th February 2012, 20:22

We didn't deserve to win it. We started well, then had a 15 minute spell of basically waiting for Chelsea to score. Then we kicked into gear...and then we didn't turn up for the first 15 minutes of the second half and should have been burried...and then the last 20 minutes were more of a free for all rather than us taking control of the game.

It was a great fightback, and gutsy as hell at times, but you can't pick and choose which parts of the game you're going to play well in and then walk away saying you deserved to win. A better Chelsea side would have been more clinical and pulverised us for being so open and switched off at times.

Plus, our defending was diabolical all afternoon. Laughably bad at times. Out of our back line, only Rafael (who was great) really managed to pass off as competent.

acrebo · 5th February 2012, 20:26

I thought Evans did pretty well in honesty. We were obviously going to risk things once we were 3 down which meant Chelsea got more of a run at our defenders but I don't think we were that bad on the whole. Yeah, we need to cut out the sloppiness but Luiz was also pretty smart for his deflected goal - you could see him instructing Sturridge to block off Rio.

mjs020294 · 5th February 2012, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Fletcher's Jilted Lover

Giggs should've been taken off. I want my best player on the pitch to actually stay on the pitch.

It was a matter of what was the best formation. If he had removed Giggs we wouldn't have had a natural left-sided player on the field. We scored two goals after the substitution and the equalizer was from a Giggs cross. Plus Rafael may have been running out of steam or carrying a knock.

Don't second guess SAF

noodlehair · 5th February 2012, 20:31

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Originally Posted by acrebo

I thought Evans did pretty well in honesty. We were obviously going to risk things once we were 3 down which meant Chelsea got more of a run at our defenders but I don't think we were that bad on the whole. Yeah, we need to cut out the sloppiness but Luiz was also pretty smart for his deflected goal - you could see him instructing Sturridge to block off Rio.

Evans positioning was really poor all game. He kept letting Torres run off him and even after it'd happened 4 or 5 times didn't wake up, and only got away with the last one because Torres fluffed his lines about 5 times before trying to get a shot away.

He's caught Luiz disease.

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5th February 2012, 18:11	#2 (permalink)
bsc First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Stretford End - 3103 Posts: 5,714	Doubted SAF's substitutions in the second half, but in retrospect he got both correct. Feels weird to be slightly disappointed with coming from three goals down away to Chelsea. Great spirit shown by the players when it mattered.

5th February 2012, 18:15	#4 (permalink)
amolbhatia100 Has excellent taste in women Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: india Posts: 27,701	No we didn't. We defended like clowns. We deserve plaudits for our show of character post Chelsea's third goal, though.

5th February 2012, 18:18	#5 (permalink)
Fletcher's Jilted Lover He's the man! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Paramore. Posts: 5,628	We didn't deserve to win it, that is the worst Chelski team we've seen for years and they found themselves 3-0 up. We were so sloppy in the first half, Giggs and Rooney inparticular. These two seemed to constantly make wrong decisions, it's common for Giggs but Rooney needs to get his act together. Scholes showed the difference in central midfield controlling the game when he came on, it just shows how much we need a central midfielder who is younger as Giggs isn't one no matter how much he plays there. Hopefully Cleverley can provide that spark as Carrick and Cleverley on paper looks like a good partnership. Why on earth Rafael was taken off I don't know. He was immense.

5th February 2012, 18:20	#6 (permalink)
Kelvin Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21,510	the match stat will show chelsea had more shots on goal than us. so its really hard to dispute we deserved to win, we were lucky not to lose actually in the end.

5th February 2012, 18:21	#8 (permalink)
Guy Incognito Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 4,768	Should have handled that match with a bit more care. Sloppy goals conceded but made up for it upfront with purpose.

5th February 2012, 18:23	#9 (permalink)
gza the genius Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: supply and command Posts: 1,103	Our defending was woeful for their 2nd and 3rd goals. If we had started the half well we would have won.

5th February 2012, 18:25	#11 (permalink)
Cold_Boy Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London,UK Posts: 17,368	I mean Chelsea going 3-0 up was pretty wierd. They really didn't do anything. It was spastic defending by us and bad luck for 2 own goals. While if Rooney had at least 2-3 of the 7 final passes(If I counted correctly) right, it would have been a completely different story.

5th February 2012, 18:27	#12 (permalink)
adexkola First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, Connecticut. Onwards and upwards. "Take me home, United Road." Posts: 9,810	If my aunt had balls she's be my uncle

5th February 2012, 18:27	#14 (permalink)
cj4_elmo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: AKA: Slapanut Goat Smuggla Posts: 3,318	We're probably the only bunch of fans in the world who would have something to complain about only getting a draw when we're 3-0 down at Stamford Bridge.

5th February 2012, 18:29	#18 (permalink)
Mick1991 First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 6,071	I thought our attitude wasn't up to scratch for the first 50, it was so easy and they were so blunt I felt we had began to take them lightly. Going three down was a good kick up the arse.

5th February 2012, 18:31	#20 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,345	Any team that defends like that doesn't deserve anything. Luckily we got a point.

5th February 2012, 20:22	#21 (permalink)
noodlehair "It's like..." Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Flagg Posts: 2,095	We didn't deserve to win it. We started well, then had a 15 minute spell of basically waiting for Chelsea to score. Then we kicked into gear...and then we didn't turn up for the first 15 minutes of the second half and should have been burried...and then the last 20 minutes were more of a free for all rather than us taking control of the game. It was a great fightback, and gutsy as hell at times, but you can't pick and choose which parts of the game you're going to play well in and then walk away saying you deserved to win. A better Chelsea side would have been more clinical and pulverised us for being so open and switched off at times. Plus, our defending was diabolical all afternoon. Laughably bad at times. Out of our back line, only Rafael (who was great) really managed to pass off as competent.

5th February 2012, 20:26	#22 (permalink)
acrebo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Exeter Posts: 2,752	I thought Evans did pretty well in honesty. We were obviously going to risk things once we were 3 down which meant Chelsea got more of a run at our defenders but I don't think we were that bad on the whole. Yeah, we need to cut out the sloppiness but Luiz was also pretty smart for his deflected goal - you could see him instructing Sturridge to block off Rio.