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Crikey that stung
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Never argue with a fool. They'll just drag you down to their level then beat you with experience
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Cry me a river, what a twat. |
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Teeth like a reindeer. Hung like a horse.
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Ingadus Speramus
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I think that if we had Vidic fit we might have had far more ambition. I also think that if we had scored the penalty or been given one of the others we would have seen a very different game. SOmetimes you need that little break to change the flow of a game and we didn't get it tonight. In years past that might have meant us coming home with a loss. I am incredibly optomistic after that performance. |
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Reserve Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: “Manchester United never lose, they just run out of time”
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Against Barca was much more like our naive performances of a few years ago. Getting ran over in the centre of the park, and letting the other team control proceedings. It was just that our defence is strong enough these days that we were able to stop them putting a chance away. Hopefully Anderson and Hargreaves will play with Carrick in the second leg so we can take control and steamroll them. |
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Nationality: Italian-English, Maltese
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Cnut's home
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Bald Boring Cnut
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Good result, excellent defensive performance, terrible attacking performance. It will be 1-1 at OT, Barca to go through on away goals, as predicted... |
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weso26
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Dublin
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SAF needs to change a couple of things around. And Anderson has to start. |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: South Africa
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Is it a good result ? - I'm not sure. Certainly we were outplayed for most of the game and our "attacking stars" rendered largely inept on the night. I think, given Barca's domination and quite brilliant play at times, we were lucky not to come away with a deficit - 2-1 or even 3-1 perhaps - assuming we managed to convert a penalty . No matter we got everyone behind the ball and our defence was superbly marshalled by Rio. Hopefully Barca won't play, or more pertinently be allowed to play, anywhere near as well as they did last night in the return and that their finishing will be equally inept. Hopefully we will offer a great deal more in attack at home and perhaps expose Barca's unsure defence a lot more than we did last night. So yes, perhaps it is a good result but I don't think we've been dominated like that for quite some time in any competition and maybe that's a cause for concern. Despite Messi, E'to, Bojan and co, Barca don't seem to carry the same threat upfront as the Real of Ronaldo and Raul did in similar circumstances a few years ago.
Different tactics for Chelsea please. We can't expect to get away with it two matches running! |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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1. Couldn't get a hold of the game. Totally overrun. 2. No away goal which kinda means we have to win at OT. 3. Nobody turned up, or were they just not allowed to (see Milan 07). 4. Nerves got to them. Favorites tag was too much for them to handle. Good Points: 1. Performance can only get better at OT. 2. Didn't lose, which kinda sets it up nicely for us to play for and get a win. 3. We've given Barca false hope that they can come to OT and get the result. They'll be more open, and more daring, and that will allow us to cut them open. 4. Our defense was superb. With Vidic in it, and Brown in his RB position, we'll be totally capable of keeping a clean sheet at OT. 2-0 home win |
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Reserve Team Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: In amoungst the pigs raising hell
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Barca V Chelsea final. |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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I agree that we invited pressure through our poor passing, but almost all Barca's possession was in front of our defence. The midfield played their part in stopping them getting in on goal. They were just shite in posession. I was edging towards wanting a Carrick, Anderson, Hargreaves midfield for last night's game, but Scholes was easily our best midfielder yesterday. The only one that showed any composure on the ball, and he held his own physically and made some great interceptions. |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Barca weaved pretty patterns all night, with no end product at all. You could tell the way we dropped off when we lost possession that we were fairly content to let them have the ball, although this was also mainly because we couldn't get the bloody thing off them.
Its a two-legged tie. We showed last night what a superb defensive unit we have. Next week we'll put theirs to the test, and they'll see more of what we're all about. 0-0 at the Nou Camp is a very decent result. |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Main factor was confidence. Our only players who were confident about their ability, are Ronaldo, Evra, and Ferdinand. Anyone else bottled it, attacking wise. Our passing was poor because our players have less technical abillity and belief in themselves. No confidence what so ever.
Close control decided the game for me. Their midfield of Xavi Iniesta and Deco are great on the ball, better than Carrick and Scholes when it comes to dictating the tempo, and better dribblers from midfield. When you have the abillity to shield the ball and dribble it earns you time to pick a pass, we didn't have that, and thats what swayed the game in Barcelona's favour. They seemed hard to knock of the ball without a foul (or a dive), and cruised past our midfield. Scholes had some great tackles, but attacking wise he was part of the problem, the only one who has done anything noteworthy in attack is obviously Ronaldo. No one else existed. Its like we thought hoof the ball, Ronaldo will chase it, maybe, luckily he will nick a goal. Its really unfair to him. While Messi had a dynamic trio of Xavi Deco and Iniesta running around him for a simple pass all the time, Ronaldo had himself only, and he did beat his first marker more than enough, but there was no one there. Im pretty sure though, that if we had Ronaldo on the wing and Rooney upfront we would have stole a goal. We would have had an extra player on the pitch, because no matter how much Rooney helped the defence, we wasted a game winning card. And I don't think Abidal would have attacked all that much if he had Ronaldo to worry about, because Ronaldo was superb with his dribbling through out the first half. It was like Roma away last year, he was the only attacking player with any threat, and his persistence led to that superbly taken goal by Rooney. Our defence was absolutely superb. Ferdinand and Wes looked very good, except that mistake by Wes. Evra contained Messi very well, and this whole "he will tear Evra/us apart" story is just wrong. Hargreaves was alright. Tevez, looked slow and heavy, his touch let him down on every occasion. Same goes for Park. The penalty miss: Well, Ive really expected him to put it in. It happens but he should be more composed next time, it could prove costly and he knows that. Its the way he approached the ball that was wrong, he should have just stuttered and sent Valdez the wrong way, Valdez was always going to his right anyway, they watch these stuff on videos. The thing is, that if it went in the whole game would have been different. hopefully he can atone for this "error" next week. |
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Dr Death wasting tax payers money on the Caf all day
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: "As relaxed and natural on the park as a dog chasing a piece of silver paper in the wind"
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1. Only one yellow card means that Evra and Nani are still the only two players who are a booking away from missing the next game. The other 3 semi-finalists all have a number of really important players who are one yellow card away from missing the final. 2. Compact and disciplined perfirmance meant that we didn't need to run ourselves into the ground, chasing a result. The game was very measure and played at a slow pace. Perfect preperation for a massive game on Saturday. God Points > Bad Points 2-0 home win, I agree. |
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Paz's ion
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Everything is "blarg".
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Bit disappointed with not scoring last night - gilt edged chance with the penalty and should have had another. |
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Brown is no God
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dublin, in the Irish Republic
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Its a missed opportunity, more than anything else. They were there for the taking, and we allowed them to have the ball as much as they wanted to. We didn't really have enough balls to run at them and get players forward. Even on the counter where we had the odd decent situatuion, nobody was up with Ronaldo to give him a hand. At one stage we had 3 players up for a corner - not really good enough seeing as their defence is questionable, and we never asked questions of it. Too negative, but with the week thats in it, maybe a 0-0 is the better score in the medium term.
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Reserve Team Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: "He's a rebel and he stands up to Bullies"
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It's a bad result in context of statistics.The away side in the second leg almost (the only time I can think of this didn't happen was the Liverpool-Chelsea phantom goal match) always goes through if the first leg is 0-0. The Milan-Arsenal tie is a good example, Milan came away with nill-nill in North London which is a creditable result but ended up having a massive disadvantage at home because if Arsenal scored it counted for two. It tactically fucks teams over because they can't push forward for the kill and they can't sit back either.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Dr Death wasting tax payers money on the Caf all day
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: "As relaxed and natural on the park as a dog chasing a piece of silver paper in the wind"
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Those "statistics" aren't all that convincing. |
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Phones, soup, paint and chairs are troubling.
Join Date: May 2003
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It wasn't pretty, but it got the result, that's what's different about us this year. Ladies and gentlemen: David Pleat Quote:
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