Well that'll do, eh?

utdalltheway

and harbour. Except in some real estate developments when they want to sound posh or something.

"Coming soon: The Villas at Harbour View, starting at $1M*"

*does not include the roof, foundations or the walls.

Bilbo

I had a call with a Spanish client of mine this morning. Ath Madrid fan, but a football fanatic. Apparently the general feeling in Spain is that Barcelona completely dominated the match (obv), and have regained a lot of form, but that they missed their big opportunity last night to win the tie. United will be a different side at home, and a lot of Spaniards expect us to win.

Ultimately meaningless of course, but its very odd that so many fans from both sides should come away with a slightly negative view towards the second leg.

As has been said already, win one match at home and we're in the final. Its a good position to be in.

crappycraperson

Well said.

One week back this team was supposed to be better than '99.

redfromcanada

There have been some good points brought up in this thread both outlining why last night's result was good and bad for United. Ultimately, United have put themselves into a position to win the tie next week. That is all you ever want from a high stakes match. I have a feeling that it might come down to what the referee allows in terms of physical play. It was obvious that Barca was going to get the lions share of the calls last night. However, it should change somewhat at OT.

MrMarcello

Not if some gimp ref like witnessed vs Porto in 2004 shows up and falls for the diving theatrics of Deco, Ineista, etc.

Red_devil_

And I remember what the commentator said ...if It was Ronaldo doing all that diving Nou Camp would have erupted

noodlehair

I wouldn't call it compelling. Maybe for United fans (I wasn't compelled, but maybe that's just me being a spastic). If I watched the same game, but not involving United, there's absolutely no fecking way I'd have lasted beyond half time, and there's no way I'd have been in any way impressed with United.

I don't know that we've proven there's all that much different about us yet. Looking at the teams we've played thus far, we'd have needed some kind of spaz attack to not still be in the competition at this stage. Last night was the first part of the big test, and I wasn't sure at all what to make of it. Did we show that we're capable of beating Barcelona? Not really. We had a couple of penalty shouts, but they came about purely through Barca defenders being spastics, which isn't something you can rely on a repeat of.

We showed we could keep a clean sheet when defending with our entire team. That's great, if you hate football, but it's not going to be much use at Old Trafford.

We've still got it all to prove.

Of course we can do it. I think we're a better team than them. I don't think it's as simple as "we'll do them" though. If we had the confidence to just roll them over, we wouldn't have had so much trouble getting a touch of the fecking ball last night.

jasonrh

To be fair, you're being an utter drama queen for the zillionth time.

Plechazunga

Harsh... Lyon and Roma are very decent sides

You can

Last night was a professional job, we'll be much better at OT. Obviously there's a certain amount of bravado in 'we'll do them' pronouncements, but we are favourites I reckon.

Wes

Pogue Mahone

Roma knocked out Real Madrid (must be the fecking zillionth time I've typed this in the last 24 hours) and Real are shitting on Barca in La Liga.

Admittedly Barca probably haven't played as well all season as they did last night but it's mental to try and claim Roma aren't a decent side.

Top

That's the worst argument ever when discussing and predicting football.
Barnsley beat Liverpool who beat Arsenal - Barnsley must be better than Arsenal

FranklyVulgar

Roma are a very good side, but minus Totti they lack the final ball, i honestly think if Totti was fit it would have been a much more difficult game in Rome.

Barca started the season well, largely due to Messi but faded in the middle with messi getting injured. Performances have been typically toothless, lack the ability to kill of their opposition.

Only performance that the Barca fans have been happy with this season is the performance against Celtic at Celtic Park. They say that is the one true barca performance.

Red_devil_

Okay people in distress start hanging yourselves ...only solution because United has no chance of winning at OT ( and I'm being ironic...for the spastics who would jump at my throat)

jasonrh

Don't. Talk. Sense.

noodlehair

Lyon were nothing worth worrying about, and Roma can't hack the idea of beating us. It'd have been a major upset if we'd gone out to either of those.

How do you know we'll be much better at OT? The last two rounds we've been shakey there, despite being in a less nervy position on both occasions.

We were in a similar position with the Arse game at OT recently, except Barcelona probably arn't going to inexplicably collapse like a pack of cards the second they take the lead.

Anyway, I've just realised how totally pointless I'm being, so I'm going to shut up.

Pogue Mahone

Not really. One off cup-ties are very different to two-legged games. Barnsley would never have beaten Liverpool over two legs.

Any team that knocks Real Madrid out of the Champion's League is, almost by definition, a decent side.

What would be silly would be trying to claim that Roma > Barca, based on the sequence of events described above.

Red_devil_

Agree with your point that Barca can and will possibly score at OT but between Barca and United who do you think has a better chance of scoring MORE goals at OT...think about that for a few secs

Pogue Mahone

I would say last night was their second true Barca performance. No coincidence that Messi was at the heart of it.

noodlehair

I don't know. It depends how we play, and what attitude we approach the game with.

Red_devil_

I think United will be more comfortable at OT as compared to Barca ...I mean I am worried too but if we were headed to Nou Camp with a 0-0 scoreline I would be even more worried

Pogue Mahone

Doesn't every game?

Our record at home, in the Champion's League, would indicate that our attitude and approach is on the money, more often than it's not.

Top

Because we allowed them to play.
As you know, I watch quite a lot of Spanish football, and have only missed 3 of Barcelona's matches this season in the league - I was really anticipating this match, not least because I knew how Barca has struggled when teams put them under just a small amount of pressure - and that's what disappointed me the most; if we had just gone for a more attacking approach then I'm sure we'd have been able to get something better than a 0-0. Not that a 0-0 isn't a good result away from home, I just felt we could have gotten more. We showed Barca way too much respect - respect they don't deserve based on their season.

We'll most likely see a very different game at OT, but the lack of away goals worries me.

Raven_Blade

I agree. The doubt exists in the back of our minds that this could very easily go either way.

jasonrh

We generally go out with everyone going madcap over our away performances and gnashing teeth about 4-5-1 and Fergie being tactically clueless.

We give away 65% of the posession and but for a missed penalty we would have won 1-0.

sincher

It could easily have been 3-0.

Plechazunga

It could. Could also have been 3-0 to us mind, what with Ronnie missing a pen, the ref denying us 2 others, and Carrick missing a chance about as good as Eto'o's.

Not saying they weren't by far the better side, but there's no reason for us not to be confident going into the home leg.