What would it take for the Glazers to win you over?

afrocentricity · 9th February 2010, 02:34

With all the Glazer shite going on and the rising dissatisfaction I'd just like to know what it would take for Mr Lucky Charm and his entourage to win you over?

Serious question...

iPete · 9th February 2010, 02:36

sell the club

afrocentricity · 9th February 2010, 02:38

to anyone in particular?

WireRed · 9th February 2010, 02:38

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Originally Posted by afrocentricity

to anyone in particular?

Sheikh Mansour

RK · 9th February 2010, 02:40

Play me in the starting 11 every week.

Everybody wins.

AlwaysRedwood · 9th February 2010, 02:41

Plastic surgery, for starters. They are the ugliest family on the face of the Earth.

I find it very upsetting.

Sir Matt · 9th February 2010, 02:41

Sell the club to the fans.

afrocentricity · 9th February 2010, 02:43

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Originally Posted by WireRed

Sheikh Mansour

S'pose he has the money ... bit early to see how it will turn out but I dunno if he's been bad for them.

afrocentricity · 9th February 2010, 02:45

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Originally Posted by Sir Matt

Sell the club to the fans.

if the fans had a tempting offer do you think he would? that would be ideal...

how would this work though?

WireRed · 9th February 2010, 02:46

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Originally Posted by afrocentricity

S'pose he has the money ... bit early to see how it will turn out but I dunno if he's been bad for them.

Getting his unlimited petro-dollars on board and leaving the Shitty ship to sink would be THE biggest laugh ever

MUFC07 · 9th February 2010, 02:50

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Originally Posted by Sir Matt

Sell the club to the fans.

This, plus deleting Avatar from our world.

Sir Matt · 9th February 2010, 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by afrocentricity

if the fans had a tempting offer do you think he would? that would be ideal...

how would this work though?

It was a hypothetical question.

I don't know that he would sell to the "Red Knights" but that would be ideal. Hopefully, it would eventually become like Barcelona though I don't know how much I like the "democratic" clubs. It sounds great, but the idiocy of many fans could negatively affect the club. I don't want a president campaigning for votes with a list of players he promises to buy the way Madrid and Barca do. We really need stable leadership that doesn't shift according to results. If we did, would Fergie have made it this far? Of course not.

afrocentricity · 9th February 2010, 02:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Matt

It was a hypothetical question.

I don't know that he would sell to the "Red Knights" but that would be ideal. Hopefully, it would eventually become like Barcelona though I don't know how much I like the "democratic" clubs. It sounds great, but the idiocy of many fans could negatively affect the club. I don't want a president campaigning for votes with a list of players he promises to buy the way Madrid and Barca do. We really need stable leadership that doesn't shift according to results. If we did, would Fergie have made it this far? Of course not.

those are my thoughts too, but does it have to be that way?

beardsleybob · 9th February 2010, 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Matt

It was a hypothetical question.

I don't know that he would sell to the "Red Knights" but that would be ideal. Hopefully, it would eventually become like Barcelona though I don't know how much I like the "democratic" clubs. It sounds great, but the idiocy of many fans could negatively affect the club. I don't want a president campaigning for votes with a list of players he promises to buy the way Madrid and Barca do. We really need stable leadership that doesn't shift according to results. If we did, would Fergie have made it this far? Of course not.

Good post

VII · 9th February 2010, 03:05

Clear the debts with their own money.

esmufc10 · 9th February 2010, 03:10

Another Glazer discussion thread!

M160RA · 9th February 2010, 03:35

Find a cure for cancer, or emasculate Elvis. Either would do.

mjs020294 · 9th February 2010, 04:44

Dead simple, sell the Buccaneers and pay the loans off. The Glazers are decent owners, they just don't have enough money to own to sports teams. They don't get involved in football affairs, neither do they make/take much out of their teams. They are practically invisible owners and the only bad thing about them is the debt we are carrying.

Personally I would take the Glazers over the Redknights if there was no debt involved.

MadDogg · 9th February 2010, 05:51

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Originally Posted by mjs020294

Dead simple, sell the Buccaneers and pay the loans off. The Glazers are decent owners, they just don't have enough money to own to sports teams. They don't get involved in football affairs, neither do they make/take much out of their teams. They are practically invisible owners and the only bad thing about them is the debt we are carrying.

Personally I would take the Glazers over the Redknights if there was no debt involved.

Spot on.

I really don't mind the Glazers per se, they keep their noses out of the things where they aren't needed, letting Fergie and Gill handle the running of the club. Far better in that regard than...well, just about every other owner that has come along over the last 7 or 8 years.

The only problem, and it is a HUGE problem, is the debt that they put on us. If they paid most of the debts off and bought it down to managable levels (probably by selling their NFL team), I'd be more than happy to give them a fresh start. Oh, and fixing the ridiculous ticketing system. Not so much the general price which doesn't seem too excessive compared to other English teams, but not being able to opt out of Carling Cup games and such.

ludvik · 9th February 2010, 06:18

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Originally Posted by iPete

sell the club

They will never win me over, but apart from that I totally agree.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 9th February 2010, 07:20

Getting rid of the debt.

Mitch Conor · 9th February 2010, 08:23

sell the Bucs, use the money gained from the sale to pay of the PIK debts (which technically is their debt, not United's) and a decent portion of the Bond issue.

I'd be happy enough with that, to be honest.

kouroux · 9th February 2010, 08:24

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Originally Posted by VII

Clear the debts with their own money.

What you said

Rood · 9th February 2010, 08:37

Pay off the PIKs with their own money and scrap the ACS - make it so, Uncle Malc !

theimperialinn · 9th February 2010, 09:19

Clear down all the debt
Speak to fans groups
Voluntary Cup scheme
Reduce my ST to £30 a match no matter what competition
Set up a legitimate site where ST holders can sell their tickets to members
Ensure adequate money is available for transfers
Build loyalty into final applications

Stretch · 9th February 2010, 09:29

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Originally Posted by VII

Clear the debts with their own money.

What money? You're having a laugh. They barely scraped the £250 million together to buy in the first place, let alone another £750 million.

Justin · 9th February 2010, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Stretch

What money? You're having a laugh. They barely scraped the £250 million together to buy in the first place, let alone another £750 million.

They could sell that NFL franchise

A1Dan · 9th February 2010, 10:11

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Originally Posted by RedKnight

Play me in the starting 11 every week.

Everybody wins.

Well, the opposition team mostly...

Frans · 9th February 2010, 10:21

pay off the debt. stop stealing our money .

do i want too much?

Stretch · 9th February 2010, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Justin

They could sell that NFL franchise

I doubt they will.

theimperialinn · 9th February 2010, 10:50

Would anyone buy it?

Crustanoid · 9th February 2010, 10:57

Buy Liverpool, get them in debt, and pay our debt off

MancFanFromManc · 9th February 2010, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frans

pay off the debt. stop stealing our money .

do i want too much?

Nope. It really is that simple

Even then I doubt we'd never trust them.

Best just tootle off eh, there's a good yank..... dont let the door hit you on your fat arse on the way out

gaffs · 9th February 2010, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Justin

They could sell that NFL franchise

According to this, they are worth $1.1bil.

#8 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Forbes.com

Doubt that will happen as they are quite profitable.

A1Dan · 9th February 2010, 11:29

If he was to save us some effort by attaching his own head to an appropriate stick, that would be a start...

PJ · 9th February 2010, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by theimperialinn

Clear down all the debt
Speak to fans groups
Voluntary Cup scheme
Reduce my ST to £30 a match no matter what competition
Set up a legitimate site where ST holders can sell their tickets to members
Ensure adequate money is available for transfers
Build loyalty into final applications

That plus £5k a week to me and I'm happy.

Woodzy · 9th February 2010, 13:50

Rename us to the 'Manchester Devils Soccer Franchise.'

Sell the naming rights to Old Trafford. "Coca Cola Stadium" would be perfect.

We'd be such a cool club then.

In all seriousness. They can't win us over, they need to fuck off, simple as that.

(although signing Messi would give me a hard on)

Utd heap · 9th February 2010, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by afrocentricity

With all the Glazer shite going on and the rising dissatisfaction I'd just like to know what it would take for Mr Lucky Charm and his entourage to win you over?

Serious question...

If they fucked off.

afrocentricity · 9th February 2010, 14:18

Interesting, so clearing the debt would go along way towards winning most of you over. Thats a no brainer but looking at the Glazer long term plan this won't happen for another 10-20 years.

Was expecting a page full of one liners ranging from 'Die!' to 'Die slowly!' to be honest...

I understand the Glazers don't really liaise with the main fan groups, so who do they talk to? and if it's no one, then how is that beneficial?

A1Dan · 9th February 2010, 14:20

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Originally Posted by afrocentricity

'Die slowly!'

That would show a lack of class.

I'm happy for them to die quite quickly, with relatively little pain.

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iPete Previously: PeteReDevil Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: http://bit.ly/9aS6f9 Posts: 2,396	sell the club

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mjs020294 First Team Sub Join Date: May 2008 Location: 18 times, and that's a FACHT Posts: 8,573	Dead simple, sell the Buccaneers and pay the loans off. The Glazers are decent owners, they just don't have enough money to own to sports teams. They don't get involved in football affairs, neither do they make/take much out of their teams. They are practically invisible owners and the only bad thing about them is the debt we are carrying. Personally I would take the Glazers over the Redknights if there was no debt involved.

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Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: IhateMakeleles. Home of Gourcuff fan boys Posts: 31,950	Getting rid of the debt.

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Mitch Conor Holy CRAP BALLS!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,553	sell the Bucs, use the money gained from the sale to pay of the PIK debts (which technically is their debt, not United's) and a decent portion of the Bond issue. I'd be happy enough with that, to be honest.

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Rood Aka roodboy Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Republik Of Mancunia Posts: 9,186	Pay off the PIKs with their own money and scrap the ACS - make it so, Uncle Malc !

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theimperialinn First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paddy's gonna trip you up, Paddy's gonna mow you down, then he's gonna get the ball and desert you!! Posts: 11,051	Clear down all the debt Speak to fans groups Voluntary Cup scheme Reduce my ST to £30 a match no matter what competition Set up a legitimate site where ST holders can sell their tickets to members Ensure adequate money is available for transfers Build loyalty into final applications

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Frans Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: " Wise people talk because they have something to say, fools talk because they have to say something " Posts: 3,031	pay off the debt. stop stealing our money . do i want too much?

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theimperialinn First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paddy's gonna trip you up, Paddy's gonna mow you down, then he's gonna get the ball and desert you!! Posts: 11,051	Would anyone buy it?

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Crustanoid First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In the dark, where all the fevers grow. Under the water, where the shark bubbles blow Posts: 8,128	Buy Liverpool, get them in debt, and pay our debt off

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Woodzy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,557	Rename us to the 'Manchester Devils Soccer Franchise.' Sell the naming rights to Old Trafford. "Coca Cola Stadium" would be perfect. We'd be such a cool club then. In all seriousness. They can't win us over, they need to fuck off, simple as that. (although signing Messi would give me a hard on)

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afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 9,115	Interesting, so clearing the debt would go along way towards winning most of you over. Thats a no brainer but looking at the Glazer long term plan this won't happen for another 10-20 years. Was expecting a page full of one liners ranging from 'Die!' to 'Die slowly!' to be honest... I understand the Glazers don't really liaise with the main fan groups, so who do they talk to? and if it's no one, then how is that beneficial?