When will berbatov start playing as a 30 million pounds player?

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:18

Tell me please, because i don't see it

WeasteDevil · 11th April 2009, 21:19

How did you become a moderator of this forum again?

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:24

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

How did you become a moderator of this forum again?

being a nice guy and not replying to every insult and agresion

why?

Gazza · 11th April 2009, 21:25

Rubbish thread. Becoming a rubbish forum, the United one.

RedSky At Night · 11th April 2009, 21:28

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

Tell me please, because i don't see it

Think its safe to say that we overpaid for him. By a fair bit. Spurs have a habit of doing that. But then again, the majority of people in here though Carrick was mediocre and a waste of money in his 1st season. Still to early to tell with Berbatov.

Alex · 11th April 2009, 21:29

never if abu dhabi hadnt come in he would have been 20-24 mil

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:35

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Originally Posted by RedSky At Night

Think its safe to say that we overpaid for him. By a fair bit. Spurs have a habit of doing that. But then again, the majority of people in here though Carrick was mediocre and a waste of money in his 1st season. Still to early to tell with Berbatov.

ok, i get it, you might be right there, he deserves to be waited by us, good

now, why are we so bitchy about tevez then? he already had a great season with us, but it seems he can't tie berbas boots, when tevez already won a lot with us and berba didn't

Cina · 11th April 2009, 21:37

he's not worth 30.75m, it's been said from the start. The price was massively inflated due to Man City and Spurs knowing we desperately needed a striker.

20m would be more accurate.

Ekeke · 11th April 2009, 21:37

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

ok, i get it, you might be right there, he deserves to be waited by us, good

now, why are we so bitchy about tevez then? he already had a great season with us, but it seems he can't tie berbas boots, when tevez already won a lot with us and berba didn't

He's not as flashy. Thats the simple answer.

Tevez and Berbatov could do the same exact thing and Berbatov would get more credit for it. Hopefully the same exact thing they do in the future is score some hattricks and then it wont particularly matter.

TheReligion · 11th April 2009, 21:38

When Tevez does, with any luck

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:40

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Originally Posted by TheReligion

When Tevez does, with any luck

maybe ...

when did we pay 30 million pounds for tevez?

TheReligion · 11th April 2009, 21:43

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

maybe ...

when did we pay 30 million pounds for tevez?

We haven't... hope we don't if thats what Kia expects

fergieisold · 11th April 2009, 21:47

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

Tell me please, because i don't see it

Not much point thinking about the price tag, the money paid for some players is never going to be totally worth it. Although he hasn't even been here for a whole season and I personally thought he created some good attacking play today.

Pogue Mahone · 11th April 2009, 21:48

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

maybe ...

when did we pay 30 million pounds for tevez?

Should we though?

Is he playing like a player worth that kind of money?

Or should we judge players by their importance to the team, rather than their price-tag?

WeasteDevil · 11th April 2009, 21:48

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

why?

Because, generally, you are supposed to set an example; not create inflammatory threads because you are slightly confused.

Devil_forever · 11th April 2009, 21:50

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

Tell me please, because i don't see it

You didn't see his contribution to the first goal then?

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:51

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Should we though?

Is he playing like a player worth that kind of money?

Or should we judge players by their importance to the team, rather than their price-tag?

don't know if we should

but for manchester united he played better than berbatov ever did for us

WeasteDevil · 11th April 2009, 21:53

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

don't know if we should

but for manchester united he played better than berbatov ever did for us

Do you get to see every United match? Tevez was shite today BTW.

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:54

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Because, generally, you are supposed to set an example; not create inflammatory threads because you are slightly confused.

mate, that's why i'm posting this the day we won and this is an argument we have had since berbatov was bought, i don't see why i can't take part on it if i have my own point view

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

You didn't see his contribution to the first goal then?

i did see his contribution, not a 30 million pounds contribution

Pogue Mahone · 11th April 2009, 21:54

Really?

Dunno about that. Not by this point last season anyway.

Besides, the whole debut season excuse only applies to one of them, in a season where they have both been fairly underwhelming.

fergieisold · 11th April 2009, 21:55

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Because, generally, you are supposed to set an example; not create inflammatory threads because you are slightly confused.

It's a thread worthy of the question, don't think I agree but still if nobody asks questions of our players then we might become deluded!

Pogue Mahone · 11th April 2009, 21:55

Fuck. Should have quoted.

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:55

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Do you get to see every United match? Tevez was shite today BTW.

i see every united game, cl, carlin, fa cup and premier

tevez was shit today, but we didn't pay 30 mil for him, and he's always treated as he needs to prove his worth in every game

WeasteDevil · 11th April 2009, 21:56

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

mate, that's why i'm posting this the day we won and this is an argument we have had since berbatov was bought, i don't see why i can't take part on it if i have my own point view

It really doesn't matter if we win or lose, the post itself is inflammatory, and I'm quite sure that you know that. It has been discussed over and over again when he was having a run in the first team, and you have to bring it up after he's been out for a few weeks injured. It's not what moderators should do.

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:57

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Really?

Dunno about that. Not by this point last season anyway.

Besides, the whole debut season excuse only applies to one of them, in a season where they have both been fairly underwhelming.

indeed, but, correct me if i'm wrong, tevez debut season was much better than berbatov's

and we paid for berbatov 30 million pounds

cloud218 · 11th April 2009, 21:59

He's fulfilled the role of a 15 mil player.

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 21:59

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

It really doesn't matter if we win or lose, the post itself is inflammatory, and I'm quite sure that you know that. It has been discussed over and over again when he was having a run in the first team, and you have to bring it up after he's been out for a few weeks injured. It's not what moderators should do.

i'm a mod, yes, but first i'm a poster and a manchester united fan, and i seat in front of the telly bitting my nails like any other poster in the caf

so if i can't have my say about a manchester united player, then i rather not be a mod

and i don't think i'm presenting the matter in an inflamatory way -maybe i am, but for the RedCafe's standards it could be much worse-.

Sam · 11th April 2009, 21:59

He won't.

Count Duckula · 11th April 2009, 22:00

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

It really doesn't matter if we win or lose, the post itself is inflammatory, and I'm quite sure that you know that. It has been discussed over and over again when he was having a run in the first team, and you have to bring it up after he's been out for a few weeks injured. It's not what moderators should do.

Weaste, stop telling other people how to do their jobs

WeasteDevil · 11th April 2009, 22:00

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

and we paid for berbatov 30 million pounds

No, not we, forget the "we", the club paid that money, and it isn't relevant in any case. Criticise the player for his performance all you want, but the money spent by the club to sign him matters not. Are you really that naive that you think that a 30 million player should play four times better than a 7 million player? Come on, you are not that stupid!

11th April 2009, 22:01

He IS playing like a 30 million striker

Sam · 11th April 2009, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Dippersripper

He IS playing like a 30 million striker

LOLZ i

LizardKing · 11th April 2009, 22:02

Thought better of you tbh, marcos.

Ekeke · 11th April 2009, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Dippersripper

He IS playing like a 30 million striker

Which one? Shevchenko?

11th April 2009, 22:03

Marcos is a Tevez fanboy

esmufc12 · 11th April 2009, 22:05

I love Dimi.

No, he hasn't played particularly great this season, and no, I don't think his performances would necessarily reflect that of a £30m player (Establishing what a £30m actualy is is quite difficult in itself!), but then as a team this season we have been ordinary for the most part, so it can't have been easy for Berbatov to be a '£30m player'.

Mockney · 11th April 2009, 22:05

Tuesday at 3.15 by Tavistock Square Market

marcosdeto · 11th April 2009, 22:06

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

No, not we, forget the "we", the club paid that money, and it isn't relevant in any case. Criticise the player for his performance all you want, but the money spent by the club to sign him matters not. Are you really that naive that you think that a 30 million player should play four times better than a 7 million player? Come on, you are not that stupid!

i'm not that naive mate, and that's not my point. Maybe you don't know where i come from, this argument is between tevez lovers and tevez haters

the haters think we shouldn't buy tevez because he's too expensive, so, if after all he did for us we don't buy him because he's not worth 30 million pounds, who ¡s worth 30 million pounds? berbatov? why? did he ever play as good as tevez did in his first season?

Raven Blade · 11th April 2009, 22:12

...when we stop referring to his price tag at every possible opportunity. Dimitar himself has said that he thinks about his transfer fee and believes he should be performing at a higher level. I think he is putting an unfair amount of pressure on himself and that may be one factor that affects his game. I know he looks confident on the pitch but he is only human. He has a different way of showing a lack of confidence compared to our other players. I just want him to play with more freedom and really go out there to express himself. He is capable of being a massive influence on our team and if we can unlock his Spurs form, he will be immense.

Devil_forever · 11th April 2009, 22:13

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Originally Posted by marcosdeto

mate, that's why i'm posting this the day we won and this is an argument we have had since berbatov was bought, i don't see why i can't take part on it if i have my own point view

i did see his contribution, not a 30 million pounds contribution

We're going to pay that same amount for Tevez, what does he do each match to justify that tag, please enlighten me?

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11th April 2009, 21:19	#2 (permalink)
WeasteDevil Observant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MG was wearing a lovely dress and I talked her out of it! Posts: 93,070	How did you become a moderator of this forum again?

11th April 2009, 21:25	#4 (permalink)
Gazza Magic Carpet Pilot Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: "some place faaar away... yes, that'll do" Posts: 27,086	Rubbish thread. Becoming a rubbish forum, the United one.

11th April 2009, 21:29	#6 (permalink)
Alex Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ____ Posts: 42,275	never if abu dhabi hadnt come in he would have been 20-24 mil

11th April 2009, 21:37	#8 (permalink)
Cina I hate everything Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 13,939	he's not worth 30.75m, it's been said from the start. The price was massively inflated due to Man City and Spurs knowing we desperately needed a striker. 20m would be more accurate.

11th April 2009, 21:38	#10 (permalink)
TheReligion First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 9,461	When Tevez does, with any luck

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Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,522	Really? Dunno about that. Not by this point last season anyway. Besides, the whole debut season excuse only applies to one of them, in a season where they have both been fairly underwhelming.

11th April 2009, 21:55	#22 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,522	Fuck. Should have quoted.

11th April 2009, 21:59	#26 (permalink)
cloud218 First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 5,375	He's fulfilled the role of a 15 mil player.

11th April 2009, 21:59	#28 (permalink)
Sam First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 'I'm a genius muthafuckin' voice of a generation' Posts: 18,546	He won't.

11th April 2009, 22:01	#31 (permalink)
Merman Guest Posts: n/a	He IS playing like a 30 million striker

11th April 2009, 22:02	#33 (permalink)
LizardKing First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: I'm the crawling king snake and I rule my den. Posts: 15,426	Thought better of you tbh, marcos.

11th April 2009, 22:03	#35 (permalink)
Merman Guest Posts: n/a	Marcos is a Tevez fanboy

11th April 2009, 22:05	#36 (permalink)
esmufc12 Unclean Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,477	I love Dimi. No, he hasn't played particularly great this season, and no, I don't think his performances would necessarily reflect that of a £30m player (Establishing what a £30m actualy is is quite difficult in itself!), but then as a team this season we have been ordinary for the most part, so it can't have been easy for Berbatov to be a '£30m player'.

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Mockney Only poster to be named Poster of the Year twice Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bangerang.net Posts: 24,967	Tuesday at 3.15 by Tavistock Square Market

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Raven Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Red till i'm dead.. Posts: 30,978	...when we stop referring to his price tag at every possible opportunity. Dimitar himself has said that he thinks about his transfer fee and believes he should be performing at a higher level. I think he is putting an unfair amount of pressure on himself and that may be one factor that affects his game. I know he looks confident on the pitch but he is only human. He has a different way of showing a lack of confidence compared to our other players. I just want him to play with more freedom and really go out there to express himself. He is capable of being a massive influence on our team and if we can unlock his Spurs form, he will be immense.