Why have people turned on Hernandez?

KM · 11th January 2012, 10:32

He has been very unlucky with his injuries this season, the first two months of this seasons were really start-stop so it's not a surprise that he'll take some time to get back into his groove. Beside I think it's actually impossible not to love Hernandez if he's playing in your team.

Ramshock · 11th January 2012, 10:39

Why are we still talking about this? He will come good leave him be!

devilish · 11th January 2012, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You're missing my point. He came to us as a pure fox in the box. He was next to a nobody outside the 18. Unlike Hernandez who at least has ace off the ball movement outside it. By the time he left though he was almost as good as Yorke in build play.

He came to us as a bit of a prima donna and he ended up more of a complete player. He's different from Hernandez though. He was never a natural finisher as Hernandez was + his stronger and bigger physical frame allowed our coaches to develop him the way he had become. Hernandez is a smallish type of striker. Bulk him and he'll lose his pace. Don't bulk him and he'll be pushed around by the typical EPL defender. Hernandez will never dazzle teams with touches of brilliance as Zola did and he'll never drop deep and win the ball like Rooney does. Its not his nature to do so and he lacks the crystalline technique and creativity players like Zola had or the physical frame Rooney has.

In my opinion Hernandez already does what he can do best ie stay side by side with the last defender, wait for his chance, once that chance comes he beats the player with shrewdness/pace and score. He's a pain in the arse as he keeps the opposition defense on its toes creating space for others in the process. Just ask Stam what it means having someone like that against you

MG · 11th January 2012, 12:14

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Originally Posted by CnutOfAllCnuts

Eh, most United fans don't a monkey about England, English United fans included.

You shouldn't comment on things you haven't got a clue about.

Speak for yourself! I'm an English United fan and I care about England. Don't care if people don't like me for it. I'm English so I support England. I know that's a really mad idea, but that's just the way I do things...

Moriarty · 11th January 2012, 13:37

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Originally Posted by devilish

I doubt that Coley was a natural predator at least not at par with guys like Hernandez, Ruud and Ole. I think that its all a catch 22 with Hernandez. By making him drop deep it would mean hindering his chances of goal.

Im happy with Hernandez as he is (he can improve his passing skills etc but those are details) and I hope he remain the player that he is now because he gives us a different approach to our game.

At the time of his transfer, Fergie thought that Cole was the best striker in the league. Pundits were howling for his inclusion in the England squad and lauding him to the rafters for his performances for Newcastle, which included a lovely goal against United. It seemed to me that the criticism of Cole's "overall game" only started once he'd signed for us.

devilish · 11th January 2012, 16:14

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Originally Posted by Moriarty

At the time of his transfer, Fergie thought that Cole was the best striker in the league. Pundits were howling for his inclusion in the England squad and lauding him to the rafters for his performances for Newcastle, which included a lovely goal against United. It seemed to me that the criticism of Cole's "overall game" only started once he'd signed for us.

He was at a relatively small club with the likes of Beardsley creating chances which he converted into goals. That system had worked well for Newcastle but he had to change his ways at United since big clubs tends to avoid having a focal point which can result into single point of failures if carefully marked. That doesn't mean that Coley was shite (quite contrary)

MadDogg · 12th January 2012, 05:40

Hernandez is a little off form, but it's more a case of people loving what Welbeck brings to the table rather than 'going off' Hernandez. Danny does have a better all round game, is more dangerous outside the box and combines better with our other players. Hernandez is supreme once we get into the penalty box though.

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11th January 2012, 10:32	#121 (permalink)
KM First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Q.P.R Posts: 14,862	He has been very unlucky with his injuries this season, the first two months of this seasons were really start-stop so it's not a surprise that he'll take some time to get back into his groove. Beside I think it's actually impossible not to love Hernandez if he's playing in your team.

11th January 2012, 10:39	#122 (permalink)
Ramshock poster of nonsense Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Four Green Fields Posts: 10,350	Why are we still talking about this? He will come good leave him be!

12th January 2012, 05:40	#127 (permalink)
MadDogg First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: “Manchester United never lose, they just run out of time” Posts: 6,869	Hernandez is a little off form, but it's more a case of people loving what Welbeck brings to the table rather than 'going off' Hernandez. Danny does have a better all round game, is more dangerous outside the box and combines better with our other players. Hernandez is supreme once we get into the penalty box though.