world white 11 vs black 11

Originally Posted by DA2

For the last time Giggs father is Indian, hes said it before - its obvious if you look at him.

Originally Posted by Plechazunga

Giggs hiding from the pressure of living between
two cultures, by disguising himself as a pinball machine

Originally Posted by yamo123x

please do not interpret this wrongly COS if you do, shame on you.. but if you were to pick a current world black 11 vs a current world white 11 it would be some game.

black 11

kameni
gallas
kompany
rio
cafu
viera
diarra
essien
ronaldinho
henry
eto


vs

buffon
nesta
terry
stam
heinze
lampard
gerrard
kaka
messi
rooney
shevchenko

WHAT A GAME THAT WUD BE?

im sure ive missed out numerous star players like zidane makelele ballack schwiensteiger trezegeut fletcher and crouch.

WHAT WOULD YOUR TEAMS BE?

Originally Posted by DA2

For the last time Giggs father is Indian, hes said it before - its obvious if you look at him.

Originally Posted by DA2

For the last time Giggs father is Indian, hes said it before - its obvious if you look at him.

Originally Posted by afrocentricity

I'm finished with this argument anyway... holla!

Originally Posted by Spoony

blah blah...

Originally Posted by Spoony

BM?

Here, it's from a 'black' site. So I doubt it's anti-black propaganda.

http://www.preciousonline.co.uk/repo...race_love.html

Mixed Race Love

By Ekua Intsiful

Britain has the highest number of mixed race couples in the world. While the issue of mixed race couples seems outdated and somewhat non-progressive in light of the perceived freedom and liberation of our modern age, the fact remains that for some it is as relevant today as it was 40 years ago. It is a subject about which many people have very strong opinions. There are those who regard it as unequivocally wrong, while others would not be a part of a mixed race relationship, but insist that everyone should have the right to choose. The more liberal among us hold the romantic view that love is blind - it does not see colour. Who a person falls for is dictated by mutual attraction and not by race.

A study by Professor Richard Berthoud of The National Institute for Social and Economic Research has this year revealed that nine out of ten black males aged twenty in Britain who are in a domestic relationship are with non-black women. This equates to a huge majority of ninety per cent and marks Britain as having the largest number of mixed race couples in the world. As a black female this spells out a very bleak future for myself or for any black woman who has pinned her romantic hopes on finding the black man of her dreams to spend the rest of her life with. Under the circumstances, a black woman would be lucky to find a black man at all, let alone the man of her dreams. This statistic signals trouble not only for black relationships, but for the black family unit which is already under strain from the stresses of single parenting. The black community has the highest incidence of one parent families of any cultural or ethnic group. Where does this statistic leave the black woman and the black family?

We must not forget that while the black man is dating the white woman in droves, the incidence of black women dating white men is also on the increase. This statistic however is not nearly as high - at present it stands at one in ten. In comparison with black males this seems like a tiny proportion, but in fact the number of black women dating non-black men has risen dramatically in recent years. The black woman, who in the past had nearly always opted for a partner of the same race, appears to be following in the footsteps of the black male who since the dawn of integration has had a strong desire for the white woman.

The reality is that while most black men are choosing to date non-black women, black women are being left on the relationship scrap heap. For many black women dating outside of her race is a necessity rather than a preference. In the present climate of inter-racial dating the only way many black women are able to realise the natural and necessary need for a relationship is to consider other races as perspective partners. This of course does not apply to all relationships in which black women are dating non-black men. There are those who through personal preference or circumstance find themselves dating outside of their race. The fact is however that with so many black males selecting non-black women as partners, there simply are not enough available black men for black women. Are we as black females destined to a life of Jerry Springer type relationships in which we find ourselves in constant battles with one another over the same man?

As a black woman I want to know what it is that makes the black man choose the white woman over his own black female? Professor Berthoud puts it down to a question of numbers saying 'there are simply more white women than those of Caribbean descent to choose from'.

This in my opinion does not provide an adequate answer. Indeed black people are a minority in British society, but this does not explain the black man's seemingly insatiable appetite for any and every woman that is not black. Other minority groups manage to date predominantly within their own race and even black women who seem to be being abandoned by their black males are still choosing to date a black man rather than one of another race.

Debates of this nature usually find black men who date white or non-black women occupying two camps. There are those who say that their choice of partner has nothing to do with race. They fall in love with the person and not with the skin colour. This I can not argue with. As a believer in romance and love that conquers all, it would go against all my fairy tale images of true love to dispute this claim.

The other camp chooses to point the finger of blame at the black woman. Saying that we are unable to adhere to the needs of the black man. Seeing negativity in our strength, independence and resourcefulness they dismiss us as too hard and accuse us of an inability to support and nurture our men. To these I say they should look at themselves before looking at others. Any black man who refuses to date a black woman simply because of her race has a problem not only with himself, but with accepting who he is.

Originally Posted by afrocentricity

Wow I cant believe your still on it... you keep dodging my questions and posting statements that make you out to be someone with colour issues, You have not answered one of my questions. Truth is I'd get a more interesting argument from Plech than you as it would at least be 2 way. This is why I said to leave it but nooooo, spoony wants to carry on.. I'm not having a dig I'm telling it how it is... you on the other hand are trying your hardest to make me look silly but who cares? I dont know you personally...
Please answer my questions...

like I said before that so called research deduces that 90% of black men are with non black women, kinda kills its credibility right there doesn't it? if you use your own eyes and brain then you'll see that thats not true... how could it be? all the black women would have to be dykes or with people like yourself, is that the case?

how many of your black friends fall into this category? I'm guessing you don't have many black friends...

Whats my daft anecdotal evidence?

Whats wrong with use of smilies? a picture is worth a thousand words they say... I can call you a without actually writing it out

Whats wrong with using something like the Trisha/Jeremy Kyle show as an example? its something you can see with your own eyes... you'd rather post something that initially may look quite reputable but when you use your brain and debunk it you'll see that the website your referencing has an agenda... just like most things in life.... I'll spell it out, your referencing a site geared towards black WOMEN, think about it... I'm tempted to nominate you in that other thread, go on tell me I'm a Drama Queen again... that seems to be the latest 'in word' around here....

Originally Posted by afrocentricity

This is really an issue for you isn't it? the fact that you've been scanning the net to find sites to coroborate your point of view is very telling....

I know you can find stats to coroborate anything you like.... you need to get a life. This is a non issue for me so I'm not even going to continue this.... I will say that I don't think you like it though. You probably think us 'coloured' folk are stealing all your women, taking all your jobs and selling drugs to your kids. Wake up man... noticed you did not answer my questions either, don't bother now its plain to see where your coming from. Bye

Originally Posted by Spoony

You. Are. A. Drama. Queen.

A very stupid one that.

Semi homo? you're gay. Full stop.

Originally Posted by afrocentricity

Back to name calling? grow up...
When people look over this thread there going to realise what an arsehole you really are, then again I'm probably the last to know.

Originally Posted by very Ruud

wrong Fobrum

Originally Posted by afrocentricity

Back to name calling? grow up...
When people look over this thread there going to realise what an arsehole you really are, then again they probably already know and I'm the last to find out.

Originally Posted by wancolos

Wrong forum.

Originally Posted by jasonrh

You've only been calling everyone in sight racists and making statements like "You probably think us 'coloured' folk are stealing all your women, taking all your jobs and selling drugs to your kids".

I've not got any problems with you, but you are acting like a spastic, and assuming everyone has some evil racist motive to attack you. You started the name calling, first subtly, and now full stop claiming Spoony is a racist.

All this because you asked him to prove something, and he did find some government stats to try to back up his assertion.

It's very Drama Queeny, I must say.

And I think you have some unresolved issues involving honky crackers, based on your assumption of us all as big bad racists.

Originally Posted by jasonrh

Drama Queen

Originally Posted by Spoony

Here Afro. NATIONAL STATS:


Lone-parent families were most prevalent among Other Black families – 64 per cent. Over 45 per cent of Black Caribbean, Black African and Mixed families were headed by a lone-parent, compared with 25 per cent of White families.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=1167

That's an offical site. Goverment stats, baby.