Going to see Derren Brown tonight.

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 14:49

Me and my missus are going to Wolverhampton tonight with twelve of her family, first for an all-you-can-eat Chinese and then to see Derren Brown's Svengali show. I've never seen Brown live before, but do you guys think he really speaks to the dead or is it all some kind of parlour trick?

narnar · 5th May 2012, 14:50

I thought he made it clear that everything he does is a trick.

Scrumpet · 5th May 2012, 14:51

Well I think he says himself at the start of his shows that it's all bullshit but I reckon he's bluffing. Definitely a wizard or something.

711 · 5th May 2012, 14:51

My great-grandmother says he does.

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Scrumpet

Well I think he says himself at the start of his shows that it's all bullshit but I reckon he's bluffing. Definitely a wizard or something.

This is what I'm thinking. Perhaps the real trick is that he makes us believe he's not a Wizard at all. "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled..." etc

iSparky · 5th May 2012, 14:56

I have seen Enigma, Derren Brown is fantastic live. Epic show, he is very open about the fact that he does not speak to the dead, in fact when he did the seance show he specifically said he does not believe in spiritualism in any way. He describes his work as a mixture of psychology, showmanship and magic and using powers of suggestion. Looking forward to seeing Svengali when he releases it on DVD

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:00

It doesn't make sense though, iSparkles, some of the things he does would be absolutely impossible if he wasn't in some kind of contact with supernatural forces.

Annihilate Now! · 5th May 2012, 15:01

Any man who can predict the lottery numbers after they've been drawn is clearly some form of genius/sorcerer...

prateik · 5th May 2012, 15:02

The first one I saw was 'Something wicked this way comes'. Loved it.
His stage shows are pretty good. The lottery one was awful tho.

He overplays the psychology and powers of suggestion bit.

Very clever tricks.

iSparky · 5th May 2012, 15:06

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

It doesn't make sense though, iSparkles, some of the things he does would be absolutely impossible if he wasn't in some kind of contact with supernatural forces.

Its clear he is ridiculously intelligent, in fact he seems to be a superior being to the rest of us! According to what he has said in the past its partly from people in a heightened state of mind during the shows and not all of his tricks work on everyone mainly people who are highly suggestible. There is a lot of mind fuck in his shows though for sure.

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:12

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Originally Posted by iSparky

Its clear he is ridiculously intelligent, in fact he seems to be a superior being to the rest of us! According to what he has said in the past its partly from people in a heightened state of mind during the shows and not all of his tricks work on everyone mainly people who are highly suggestible. There is a lot of mind fuck in his shows though for sure.

Would you say then that it's probably about 95% tricks to 5% genuine contact with the supernatural? I don't believe that everything he does comes from ghosts or anything, but there's just no other explanation for some of the stuff he does, he must have had ghosts helping him at some stage.

Relevated · 5th May 2012, 15:14

He said he has studied the brain and shit for a long time, he says it himself it is showmanship etc.

Scrumpet · 5th May 2012, 15:15

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

Would you say then that it's probably about 95% tricks to 5% genuine contact with the supernatural? I don't believe that everything he does comes from ghosts or anything, but there's just no other explanation for some of the stuff he does, he must have had ghosts helping him at some stage.

I'd say that's a conservative estimate. I reckon he can control where that frisbee of his lands too. Is that telekinesis?

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Originally Posted by Relevated

He said he has studied the brain and shit for a long time, he says it himself it is showmanship etc.

He would say that.

kf · 5th May 2012, 15:18

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

Me and my missus are going to Wolverhampton tonight with twelve of her family, first for an all-you-can-eat Chinese and then to see Derren Brown's Svengali show. I've never seen Brown live before, but do you guys think he really speaks to the dead or is it all some kind of parlour trick?

The man's clearly some sort of high order warlock. Back in the day, someone would have burned him.

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:18

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Originally Posted by Relevated

He said he has studied the brain and shit for a long time, he says it himself it is showmanship etc.

Exactly, he says so himself, but that doesn't prove that there aren't supernatural forces in play. If I were in contact with the dead I think I'd keep it secret too!

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:20

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Originally Posted by Scrumpet

I'd say that's a conservative estimate. I reckon he can control where that frisbee of his lands too. Is that telekinesis?

I'm not a firm believer in telekinesis, but there's certainly enough anecdotal evidence around to warrant further study.

Dave89 · 5th May 2012, 15:21

I'm convinced he's using many forms of evil withcraft and wizadry, and the whole "only psychology" element of of it is just to trick us into falling for his plan.

Haven't quite figured out what his plan is yet though.

Relevated · 5th May 2012, 15:25

Imagine if it was Kony in disguise.

Badunk · 5th May 2012, 15:26

I went to see Something Wicked and it was incredible. You will definitely get your money's worth as far as entertainment goes.

iSparky · 5th May 2012, 15:27

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

Would you say then that it's probably about 95% tricks to 5% genuine contact with the supernatural? I don't believe that everything he does comes from ghosts or anything, but there's just no other explanation for some of the stuff he does, he must have had ghosts helping him at some stage.

It would not surprise me if he did have some genuine contact with the supernatural to be honest, some of the stuff he does is just plain freaky! but amazing!

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:28

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Originally Posted by Badunk

I went to see Something Wicked and it was incredible. You will definitely get your money's worth as far as entertainment goes.

I didn't pay.

iSparky · 5th May 2012, 15:28

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

I didn't pay.

Even better! A great night of entertainment for free!

Zarlak · 5th May 2012, 15:29

Surely you're wumming here Cider. You ripped the shit out of Erica for entertaining the idea of ghosts.

Sally Cinnamon · 5th May 2012, 15:30

Definitely ghosts and spirits and stuff, cider. Won't you be scared with the presence of spirits?

Relevated · 5th May 2012, 15:31

who is his boyfriend?

Carl · 5th May 2012, 15:31

I thought he was called Darren for year. Just saying...

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Zarlak

Surely you're wumming here Cider. You ripped the shit out of Erica for entertaining the idea of ghosts.

Yeah?

kf · 5th May 2012, 15:32

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Originally Posted by cw1984

I thought he was called Darren for year. Just saying...

That would be him manipulating your mind... it's scary.

Scrumpet · 5th May 2012, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Zarlak

Surely you're wumming here Cider. You ripped the shit out of Erica for entertaining the idea of ghosts.

There's a clear difference in believing ghosts are just bumbling about among us and believing that someone is able to contact the dead in some way.

Zarlak · 5th May 2012, 15:34

On a side note, Derren Brown is pretty awesome.

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:34

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Originally Posted by Sally Cinnamon

Definitely ghosts and spirits and stuff, cider. Won't you be scared with the presence of spirits?

I'm nervous, without doubt, but I believe the spirits he works with to be benevolent, and so I'm comfortable putting myself in that situation. What does worry me though is that this Svengali show in particular has been described as his 'darkest' show yet, focusing much on the occult, and that could well be a case of him pushing his luck imo.

iSparky · 5th May 2012, 15:35

Shit like this I just dont understand how he does it

But this has to be my favourite clip, the guy just freaks out big time. But then again so would I!

Relevated · 5th May 2012, 15:36

the one where he takes the guys watch and keys etc is good.

101 · 5th May 2012, 15:36

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

Me and my missus are going to Wolverhampton tonight with twelve of her family, first for an all-you-can-eat Chinky and then to see Derren Brown's Svengali show. I've never seen Brown live before, but do you guys think he really speaks to the dead or is it all some kind of parlour trick?

Erm...

Snow · 5th May 2012, 15:37

He's the Devil. Just look at his beard.

JB7 · 5th May 2012, 15:39

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

Me and my missus are going to Wolverhampton tonight with twelve of her family, first for an all-you-can-eat Chinese and then to see Derren Brown's Svengali show. I've never seen Brown live before, but do you guys think he really speaks to the dead or is it all some kind of parlour trick?

Which Chinese are you going to? Wing Wahs or the Imperial? Would definitely recommend Wing Wah's, not been to the Imp for years.

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:45

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Originally Posted by JB7

Which Chinese are you going to? Wing Wahs or the Imperial? Would definitely recommend Wing Wah's, not been to the Imp for years.

Yeah we're going Wing Wahs. I've never been anywhere all you can eat before!

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Originally Posted by 101

Erm...

Spoiler

No it's not.

Adzzz · 5th May 2012, 15:49

I'm fairly sure you mean an all you can eat Chinese.

Hectic · 5th May 2012, 15:51

It can certainly be offensive and the original shortened word itself is commonly seen as a racial insult.

I'm removing it from your post.

ciderman9000000 · 5th May 2012, 15:54

That gif is more racist than calling Chinese food 'Chinky'.

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5th May 2012, 14:50	#2 (permalink)
narnar Needs Help Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Let me please introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste Posts: 11,218	I thought he made it clear that everything he does is a trick.

5th May 2012, 14:51	#3 (permalink)
Scrumpet There are no words Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Not my circus, not my monkeys. Posts: 15,053	Well I think he says himself at the start of his shows that it's all bullshit but I reckon he's bluffing. Definitely a wizard or something.

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711 Real Caftard Fantasy Champ 2009 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Effete. Very effete. Posts: 9,186	My great-grandmother says he does.

5th May 2012, 14:56	#6 (permalink)
iSparky Waiting on Noodle... Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 43,325	I have seen Enigma, Derren Brown is fantastic live. Epic show, he is very open about the fact that he does not speak to the dead, in fact when he did the seance show he specifically said he does not believe in spiritualism in any way. He describes his work as a mixture of psychology, showmanship and magic and using powers of suggestion. Looking forward to seeing Svengali when he releases it on DVD

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ciderman9000000 Off his rocker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester City Posts: 26,266	It doesn't make sense though, iSparkles, some of the things he does would be absolutely impossible if he wasn't in some kind of contact with supernatural forces.

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Annihilate Now! First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Argh Posts: 13,460	Any man who can predict the lottery numbers after they've been drawn is clearly some form of genius/sorcerer...

5th May 2012, 15:02	#9 (permalink)
prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 23,414	The first one I saw was 'Something wicked this way comes'. Loved it. His stage shows are pretty good. The lottery one was awful tho. He overplays the psychology and powers of suggestion bit. Very clever tricks.

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Relevated majestic retarded dinosaur, we love you Rel! - the redcafe modmins Join Date: May 2011 Location: The less of the world, the freer you live. Posts: 12,164	He said he has studied the brain and shit for a long time, he says it himself it is showmanship etc.

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Dave89 First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 16,527	I'm convinced he's using many forms of evil withcraft and wizadry, and the whole "only psychology" element of of it is just to trick us into falling for his plan. Haven't quite figured out what his plan is yet though.

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Relevated majestic retarded dinosaur, we love you Rel! - the redcafe modmins Join Date: May 2011 Location: The less of the world, the freer you live. Posts: 12,164	Imagine if it was Kony in disguise.

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Badunk First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse Posts: 9,643	I went to see Something Wicked and it was incredible. You will definitely get your money's worth as far as entertainment goes.

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Zarlak Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 'Whatever happened to sex, drugs and rock n' roll? Now we just have aids, crack and techno.' Posts: 24,983	Surely you're wumming here Cider. You ripped the shit out of Erica for entertaining the idea of ghosts.

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Sally Cinnamon First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: J-Roc's Crib Posts: 7,031	Definitely ghosts and spirits and stuff, cider. Won't you be scared with the presence of spirits?

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Relevated majestic retarded dinosaur, we love you Rel! - the redcafe modmins Join Date: May 2011 Location: The less of the world, the freer you live. Posts: 12,164	who is his boyfriend?

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Carl Not Allowed A Hash Tag Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Formerly cw1984 Posts: 31,650	I thought he was called Darren for year. Just saying...

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Zarlak Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 'Whatever happened to sex, drugs and rock n' roll? Now we just have aids, crack and techno.' Posts: 24,983	On a side note, Derren Brown is pretty awesome.

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iSparky Waiting on Noodle... Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 43,325	Shit like this I just dont understand how he does it But this has to be my favourite clip, the guy just freaks out big time. But then again so would I!

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Relevated majestic retarded dinosaur, we love you Rel! - the redcafe modmins Join Date: May 2011 Location: The less of the world, the freer you live. Posts: 12,164	the one where he takes the guys watch and keys etc is good.

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Snow First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like turtles Posts: 16,825	He's the Devil. Just look at his beard.

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Adzzz Astrophysical Genius Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A Forest with Astro Turf Facility. Now a Guardian of the West. Posts: 25,765	I'm fairly sure you mean an all you can eat Chinese.

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Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mike Phelan WILL kill you. Posts: 64,702	It can certainly be offensive and the original shortened word itself is commonly seen as a racial insult. I'm removing it from your post.

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ciderman9000000 Off his rocker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester City Posts: 26,266	That gif is more racist than calling Chinese food 'Chinky'.