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EricaNo7 · 24th June 2010, 18:43

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Originally Posted by R_Nick

Erica have you spoken to anyone yet? I think you have to buy it from a store for
the moment, I know they're not available online for a while and I would assume it'd be the same on the phone..

i got through after 45 minutes only to be told i needed to go to the store - except 02 in northallerton told me this afternoon to keep trying on the phone to o2 - plus o2 told me last week to ring them today to upgrade - and they've
sent me the new micro sim card!
basically, i'm no further forward!

Tibs · 24th June 2010, 20:16

My brothers mate just came around and he had the new
phone

My impressions were it seemed a little heavier than the 3gs. Screen looks better but nothin groundbreaking. It's quicker. New software is cool.

I'll get one in a month or two..saddened to say it didn't blow mr away

Rado_N · 24th June 2010, 20:21

Im happy (and more than a little relieved) to report I'm having absolutely no signal issues with mine

Dresilved · 24th June 2010, 20:29

This is just nuts, I nipped out to my local apple store to have a look at the queue.... madness

Lester Freamon · 24th June 2010, 20:44

Am I the only one finding it more than a little bit pathrtic standing in line for hours to get your hands on a phone? Like those gimps couldn't survive another day with their 3GS, Jesus.

iSparky · 24th June 2010, 20:46

i would never queue for any product launch and i consider myself a big apple fan

Lester Freamon · 24th June 2010, 20:48

Exactly! I wouldn't get in a line that long if I was waiting for a new kidney!

Tibs · 24th June 2010, 20:57

Also, when I was holding thenphone, it felt warm for some reason...it's metal cased all around isn't it..that will obviously make it warmer

jatin · 24th June 2010, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tibs

My brothers mate just came around and he had the new
phone

My impressions were it seemed a little heavier than the 3gs. Screen looks better but nothin groundbreaking. It's quicker. New software is cool.

I'll get one in a month or two..saddened to say it didn't blow mr away

which is what crappy, myself and mjs had been saying since the press conference from senor jobs, but of course some fanboys had to delete those posts

OneUnited24 · 24th June 2010, 22:24

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Originally Posted by jatin

which is what crappy, myself and mjs had been saying since the press conference from senor jobs, but of course some fanboys had to delete those posts

iPhone has used the same OS since it was launched for one reason, it works. Its not over complicated or difficult to use, everything is where you want it to be and it still does a good job at being a smart phone - i mean its taken the competition 4 years to catch up and even then i would still say Apple has a edge all-be-it a small advantage over Android. I know its not everyones cup of tea but honestly after the first iPhone all they could do was improve on the hardware because the software was pretty spot on.

So it would be stupid beyond belief to change the OS just so it would be different to a OS that works so well

OneUnited24 · 24th June 2010, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tibs

Also, when I was holding thenphone, it felt warm for some reason...it's metal cased all around isn't it..that will obviously make it warmer

Thats something that got me thinking when they announced it, my first iPhone 2g used to get incredibly hot if you used it for a prolonged period and i thought Apple had gone with a plastic case because of it, now they seem to have gone back to a similar sort of design

Kraftwerker · 24th June 2010, 22:44

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Originally Posted by jatin

which is what crappy, myself and mjs had been saying since the press conference from senor jobs, but of course some fanboys had to delete those posts

When something works so well, you don't need to revolutionise it. It's up to others to catch up, and having used a HTC Desire this week, they've got a long way to come.

Saying that, I won't be getting an iPhone 4 until they sort out any teething issues (which suits me because my contract isn't up for a few months yet), though I do have the new OS. It's not revolutionary, but it doesn't need to be.

jdmufc · 24th June 2010, 22:45

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jatin · 24th June 2010, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneUnited24

iPhone has used the same OS since it was launched for one reason, it works. Its not over complicated or difficult to use, everything is where you want it to be and it still does a good job at being a smart phone - i mean its taken the competition 4 years to catch up and even then i would still say Apple has a edge all-be-it a small advantage over Android. I know its not everyones cup of tea but honestly after the first iPhone all they could do was improve on the hardware because the software was pretty spot on.

So it would be stupid beyond belief to change the OS just so it would be different to a OS that works so well

Which is why they are trying to implement multi-tasking now?????

As I said before, good phone - certainly, one which people go ballistic over(as they are) - certainly not

Rado_N · 24th June 2010, 22:48

That was released a few weeks ago jd; for most people it won't matter as they'll be well below the new caps anyway.

jatin · 24th June 2010, 22:49

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Originally Posted by Kraftwerker

When something works so well, you don't need to revolutionise it. It's up to others to catch up, and having used a HTC Desire this week, they've got a long way to come.

Saying that, I won't be getting an iPhone 4 until they sort out any teething issues (which suits me because my contract isn't up for a few months yet), though I do have the new OS. It's not revolutionary, but it doesn't need to be.

Yeah we all know your next comment, 80's style games

Commadus · 25th June 2010, 08:33

Apple responds to iPhone 4 reception issues: you're holding the phone the wrong way -- Engadget

So Apple admit to the problem and their response is a big Fuck you - your holding the phone the wrong way.

MikeUpNorth · 25th June 2010, 08:55

"Just avoid holding it that way." Nice one Apple. How the hell did such a serious design flaw make it all the way to manufacture?

MikeUpNorth · 25th June 2010, 08:56

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Originally Posted by R_Nick

Im happy (and more than a little relieved) to report I'm having absolutely no signal issues with mine

I'm guessing you're not left handed then.

brewlio · 25th June 2010, 09:00

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Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

I'm guessing you're not left handed then.

He is renowned for his ambidextrous wankability down Canal Street (and most of Brighton).

Broyphs · 25th June 2010, 09:11

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Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

"Just avoid holding it that way." Nice one Apple. How the hell did such a serious design flaw make it all the way to manufacture?

Metaphorically the answer involves a faceless consumer repeatedly having a giant black, rubber cock forced inserted in their arse, all the while Steve Jobs sits in the corner, tweaking his own nipples saying 'Yeah, that's the stuff'.

In reality they've just moved on to using comsumers to test their products post-development, which means their most loyal customers (the early adopters) get to play the faceless consumer in the above annual AppSod Production, until eventually the casual consumer gets to reap the benefit when all the bugs have been ironed our. But it's okay, because quite a few of the early adopters will shell out again, because someone, somewhere has a feature they don't on an Apple device.

To be fair it's not just Apple doing this.

Commadus · 25th June 2010, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brophs

Metaphorically the answer involves a faceless consumer repeatedly having a giant black, rubber cock forced inserted in their arse, all the while Steve Jobs sits in the corner, tweaking his own nipples saying 'Yeah, that's the stuff'.

In reality they've just moved on to using comsumers to test their products post-development, which means their most loyal customers (the early adopters) get to play the faceless consumer in the above annual AppSod Production, until eventually the casual consumer gets to reap the benefit when all the bugs have been ironed our. But it's okay, because quite a few of the early adopters will shell out again, because someone, somewhere has a feature they don't on an Apple device.

To be fair it's not just Apple doing this.

It's not even testing it's massive design flaw and I doubt they can fix it later on without making cosmetic changes to the Phone.

The response is typical of a company that has grown too powerful and is dimissive and condescending of its customers.

Commadus · 25th June 2010, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

"Just avoid holding it that way." Nice one Apple. How the hell did such a serious design flaw make it all the way to manufacture?

Design Feature you numpty! Now all Iphone Users can be extra special because they hold their phone in a different way!

You have to hold the phone by pinching it between your two fingers and dangle it as you hold it to show the world how truly special you are.

jatin · 25th June 2010, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commadus

Design Feature you numpty! Now all Iphone Users can be extra special because they hold their phone in a different way!

You have to hold the phone by pinching it between your two fingers and dangle it as you hold it to show the world how truly special you are.

or all the apple users can follow the ashley cole way of "holding" their phones

Commadus · 25th June 2010, 09:32

The right way to hold the phone. Apple knew about the problem but no doubt thought we know our customers very very well.

OneUnited24 · 25th June 2010, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jatin

Which is why they are trying to implement multi-tasking now?????

As I said before, good phone - certainly, one which people go ballistic over(as they are) - certainly not

Well i wouldnt say multi-tasking has completely changed the OS, merely improved on a aspect of it - which is all apple can really do because their existing user interface is pretty spot on

OneUnited24 · 25th June 2010, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

"Just avoid holding it that way." Nice one Apple. How the hell did such a serious design flaw make it all the way to manufacture?

The people testing it were all right handed? Thus during calls never noticed any drops

jatin · 25th June 2010, 10:08

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Originally Posted by OneUnited24

Well i wouldnt say multi-tasking has completely changed the OS, merely improved on a aspect of it - which is all apple can really do because their existing user interface is pretty spot on

you do realise that saying the user interface is spot on is not the same as saying the OS is spot on, your initial point was about the OS not the user interface

OneUnited24 · 25th June 2010, 10:13

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Originally Posted by jatin

you do realise that saying the user interface is spot on is not the same as saying the OS is spot on, your initial point was about the OS not the user interface

Well the user interface is surely appart of the OS isnt it? Which is what i meant anyway, for a typical user there wouldnt be much of a change between the different generations of the iPhone because they all look the same but i dont understand why they would want something different - if it aint broke why fix it?

MikeUpNorth · 25th June 2010, 10:22

The fact that Apple had a bumper case - which allieviates the problem - ready for the launch, when they have never done so with any branded cases for prior releases, suggests they knew about this problem a fair way in advance and just ignored it.

Commadus · 25th June 2010, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneUnited24

Well the user interface is surely appart of the OS isnt it? Which is what i meant anyway, for a typical user there wouldnt be much of a change between the different generations of the iPhone because they all look the same but i dont understand why they would want something different - if it aint broke why fix it?

I think you need to separate the UI and the os. For example Nokia runs series 60 UI (garbage) on the Symbian os (which is fantastic) yet as consumers only interact through the UI they think Symbian is garbage and its a fair point.

The apple iphone ui runs ontop of Linux. Symbian is far more davanced than ios4 but the UI ontop is very poor for touch interaction.

Rado_N · 25th June 2010, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

I'm guessing you're not left handed then.

Like brewlio said I use both.

I've also tried holding it in a variety of ways to create the problem out of curiosity and no matter what I've done it's not dropped signal at all.

esmufc14 · 25th June 2010, 11:33

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Originally Posted by Commadus

The right way to hold the phone. Apple knew about the problem but no doubt thought we know our customers very very well.

Why is George Osborne there?

MikeUpNorth · 25th June 2010, 11:51

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Originally Posted by R_Nick

Like brewlio said I use both.

I've also tried holding it in a variety of ways to create the problem out of curiosity and no matter what I've done it's not dropped signal at all.

Weird. I know four people with a new iphone and they can all replicate the issue by holding the phone in the bottom left area.

It's definitely an issue which affects all phones as Apple has acknowldged: BBC News - Apple issues advice to avoid iPhone flaw

Dans · 25th June 2010, 12:19

The Register tells it like it is, as always.

Jobs tells iPhone users to get a grip ? The Register

Kraftwerker · 25th June 2010, 12:20

So now that they've marginalised left-handed users, is there a way we can do the same for ginger users as well?

Rado_N · 25th June 2010, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

Weird. I know four people with a new iphone and they can all replicate the issue by holding the phone in the bottom left area.

It's definitely an issue which affects all phones as Apple has acknowldged: BBC News - Apple issues advice to avoid iPhone flaw

Ah, I hadn't tried that, yea it does drop slowly off, thats weird and pretty bad. Although it has taken a lot of messing about to replicate it, and it's not affected my use under normal conditions, so it certainly isn't 'useless' as someone on that BBC article suggested. Still, pretty poor show though.

Uncle Junior · 25th June 2010, 12:35

As if trailing HTC even before their product was launched wasn't bad enough, now this for Apple!

MikeUpNorth · 25th June 2010, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Nick

Ah, I hadn't tried that, yea it does drop slowly off, thats weird and pretty bad. Although it has taken a lot of messing about to replicate it, and it's not affected my use under normal conditions, so it certainly isn't 'useless' as someone on that BBC article suggested. Still, pretty poor show though.

One of the people I know with a new iphone is left-handed and it does drop calls fairly regularly for him. If you're left handed it's not really possible to hold the phone without touching the bad area, unless you've got midget hands...

Also, if you hold the phone glasped around the bottom to browse the web (as most people do) it throttles the bandwidth.

Commadus · 25th June 2010, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

One of the people I know with a new iphone is left-handed and it does drop calls fairly regularly for him. If you're left handed it's not really possible to hold the phone without touching the bad area, unless you've got midget hands...

Also, if you hold the phone glasped around the bottom to browse the web (as most people do) it throttles the bandwidth.

Thats how I hold it in my left hand to browse the net.

Time for a class action lawsuit to wipe that arrogant smile of Jobs face with that condescending response.

As to all who queued up for it - was it worth it?

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24th June 2010, 20:16	#2082 (permalink)
Tibs First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gtr. Manchester Posts: 10,111	My brothers mate just came around and he had the new phone My impressions were it seemed a little heavier than the 3gs. Screen looks better but nothin groundbreaking. It's quicker. New software is cool. I'll get one in a month or two..saddened to say it didn't blow mr away

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Rado_N Came from nowhere, yet still a better modmin than Weaste ever was Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 45,422	Im happy (and more than a little relieved) to report I'm having absolutely no signal issues with mine

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Dresilved First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Football, Bloody hell! Posts: 5,484	This is just nuts, I nipped out to my local apple store to have a look at the queue.... madness

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Lester Freamon Aka Caveman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Republik of Berbonia Posts: 6,840	Am I the only one finding it more than a little bit pathrtic standing in line for hours to get your hands on a phone? Like those gimps couldn't survive another day with their 3GS, Jesus.

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iSparky Waiting on Noodle... Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 43,385	i would never queue for any product launch and i consider myself a big apple fan

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Lester Freamon Aka Caveman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Republik of Berbonia Posts: 6,840	Exactly! I wouldn't get in a line that long if I was waiting for a new kidney!

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Tibs First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gtr. Manchester Posts: 10,111	Also, when I was holding thenphone, it felt warm for some reason...it's metal cased all around isn't it..that will obviously make it warmer

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Rado_N Came from nowhere, yet still a better modmin than Weaste ever was Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 45,422	That was released a few weeks ago jd; for most people it won't matter as they'll be well below the new caps anyway.

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Commadus First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8,795	Apple responds to iPhone 4 reception issues: you're holding the phone the wrong way -- Engadget So Apple admit to the problem and their response is a big Fuck you - your holding the phone the wrong way.

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MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 14,256	"Just avoid holding it that way." Nice one Apple. How the hell did such a serious design flaw make it all the way to manufacture?

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Commadus First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8,795	The right way to hold the phone. Apple knew about the problem but no doubt thought we know our customers very very well.

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MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 14,256	The fact that Apple had a bumper case - which allieviates the problem - ready for the launch, when they have never done so with any branded cases for prior releases, suggests they knew about this problem a fair way in advance and just ignored it.

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Dans First Team Elder Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Poster of the decade 2000-10 (w/o badge) Posts: 21,628	The Register tells it like it is, as always. Jobs tells iPhone users to get a grip ? The Register

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Kraftwerker Formerly RedAddict Join Date: May 2008 Location: We can't stop here. This is bat country. Posts: 10,281	So now that they've marginalised left-handed users, is there a way we can do the same for ginger users as well?

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Uncle Junior Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Did you offer him an aspirin? Posts: 4,508	As if trailing HTC even before their product was launched wasn't bad enough, now this for Apple!