SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act)

jveezy · 21st February 2012, 23:05

Right. But how much are they being paid to not offer a streaming option to non-cable/satellite subscribers, and can they make more by offering a more expensive streaming-only option to cord cutters?

MikeUpNorth · 21st February 2012, 23:06

Their analysis obviously suggests that is not yet the case. If they thought they were able to make more money by going it alone then they would do it.

MikeUpNorth · 21st February 2012, 23:15

I read that 80% of TV viewing is still live broadcast television (i.e. the traditional way rather than on-demand or through the internet/mobile). It will be interesting to see how quickly this changes (assuming it does).

Currently most people do not even hook their TV's up to the internet, so that immediately makes going it alone difficult for a production company that wants to bypass traditional distribution means.

jveezy · 21st February 2012, 23:16

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Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

Their analysis obviously suggests that is not yet the case. If they thought they were able to make more money by going it alone then they would do it.

I disagree. I think the analysis only suggests that they won't make more money by skipping cable entirely. Outside of DVD sales, they're completely reliant on consumers believing that cable is still a worthwhile expenditure at a time when a lot of people don't have that much money.

MikeUpNorth · 21st February 2012, 23:21

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Originally Posted by jveezy

I disagree. I think the analysis only suggests that they won't make more money by skipping cable entirely. Outside of DVD sales, they're completely reliant on consumers believing that cable is still a worthwhile expenditure at a time when a lot of people don't have that much money.

The cable contracts likely make the choice either go it alone or sign up with an exclusivity clause as is presently the case. Why would the cable companies want to prematurely sign their own death warrant?

jveezy · 22nd February 2012, 00:07

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Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

The cable contracts likely make the choice either go it alone or sign up with an exclusivity clause as is presently the case. Why would the cable companies want to prematurely sign their own death warrant?

I don't think cable companies would want to risk losing HBO completely. Why would they take a "my way or the highway" attitude instead of just saying "well if you want to do it that way just compensate us for it"? That's why other exclusivity deals are based on money and not services, right? (I'm thinking AT&T with the iPhone as the most prominent example.)

MikeUpNorth · 22nd February 2012, 00:11

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Originally Posted by jveezy

I don't think cable companies would want to risk losing HBO completely. Why would they take a "my way or the highway" attitude instead of just saying "well if you want to do it that way just compensate us for it"? That's why other exclusivity deals are based on money and not services, right? (I'm thinking AT&T with the iPhone as the most prominent example.)

I suspect the fear is that once you allow it for one, they'll all want it. Slippery slope from their perspective.

jveezy · 22nd February 2012, 00:30

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Originally Posted by MikeUpNorth

I suspect the fear is that once you allow it for one, they'll all want it. Slippery slope from their perspective.

ESPN did it for years though and Universal, Viacom, Disney, and Fox are all offering full episodes online, so cable hasn't blocked them at all. They just offered Disney an ultrasweet deal for exclusivity with ESPN to get them to stop.

MikeUpNorth · 22nd February 2012, 12:53

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MikeUpNorth · 22nd February 2012, 12:54

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Wibble · 22nd February 2012, 20:45

It highlights how many laws and regulations aren't suitable to regulate modern electronic communication and media in much the same way that current copyright laws are archaic in many ways.

Lynk · 3rd March 2012, 14:28

'Irish Sopa' legislation passed despite robust opposition | World news | The Guardian

Downloading everything possible now*

*legally ofc

VidaRed · 3rd March 2012, 19:35

the irish!

Mick1991 · 3rd March 2012, 20:47

Kiss your political career goodbye. Honestly, Sherlock's background is in agriculture. You couldn't make shit like that up.

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21st February 2012, 23:05	#801 (permalink)
jveezy Coach Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Rancho Cordova, California, USA Posts: 14,269	Right. But how much are they being paid to not offer a streaming option to non-cable/satellite subscribers, and can they make more by offering a more expensive streaming-only option to cord cutters?

21st February 2012, 23:06	#802 (permalink)
MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 13,227	Their analysis obviously suggests that is not yet the case. If they thought they were able to make more money by going it alone then they would do it.

21st February 2012, 23:15	#803 (permalink)
MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 13,227	I read that 80% of TV viewing is still live broadcast television (i.e. the traditional way rather than on-demand or through the internet/mobile). It will be interesting to see how quickly this changes (assuming it does). Currently most people do not even hook their TV's up to the internet, so that immediately makes going it alone difficult for a production company that wants to bypass traditional distribution means.

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MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 13,227	Digital Music News - These Numbers May Change Your Attitude About Three-Strikes...

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MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 13,227	Relevant to the discussion earlier in the thread over whether internet services should be considered 'publishers' or mere conduits (like phone companies): Is Twitter a newspaper, or is it the phone company? — Tech News and Analysis

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Wibble Ingadus Speramus Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Centre Back Posts: 49,876	It highlights how many laws and regulations aren't suitable to regulate modern electronic communication and media in much the same way that current copyright laws are archaic in many ways.

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3rd March 2012, 20:47	#814 (permalink)
Mick1991 First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 6,071	Kiss your political career goodbye. Honestly, Sherlock's background is in agriculture. You couldn't make shit like that up.