Start Muay Thai training camp Monday for 2-3 months. What can I achieve? (Pics)

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 06:57

Hi all,

I know from reading previous threads that there are a lot of people on the caf that workout and have an interest in health and fitness etc... Some in Muay Thai also.

Anyways, I am checking into tigermuaythai.com on Monday to begin training to lose my gut and get in better shape. I've spent the past four months traveling around SE Asia drinking lots everyday and I want to get rid of the added pad!

I wanted to know what from sort of improvement in my physique I should be aiming for and what I can realistically expect to achieve. I am, like most, looking to drop some fat and tone up a little.

I would love your thoughts on this please!

Few stats to help -

I am 25 in one month
Weigh around 11 3/4 stone
5' 9" height
I guesstimate around 22-23% body fat

Some pics of me topless lol...

http://i.imgur.com/96sQ7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/al101.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AdqbI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xuPbJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hCIFe.jpg

I will be training 5 days per week for 2 or, if necessary, 3 months (any thoughts on timescale please?)

Training will be 1 hour fitness/cardio fat burning type class 7-8am
1 1/2 hours Muay Thai training and technique

Then, after a week or two I may start doing the afternoon class as well which is boxing, Muay Thai 2 hours.

I may also do weight training for an 50 mins X 3 sessions a week beginning in the second or third week (depending on how sore I am lol)

Am I correct that a reasonable amount of weight to lose per week is around 1 1/2 pounds? Also, a reasonable amount of muscle growth is 2 pounds per month? (not so sure about the later?)

Anyways, thanks for any comments/help/info/tips/piss taking...

Cheers

Silva · 18th February 2012, 07:26

Steroids might help

SiYuan · 18th February 2012, 07:46

Ooh Tiger Muay Thai.

Was about to sign up for it last year.

Let me know what it is like!

Silva · 18th February 2012, 07:57

How much does it cost in pounds btw? I'm considering going next year, always been a fan of Muay Thai, even though last time I went I got my arse kicked by a bald 55 year old.

cesc's_mullet · 18th February 2012, 08:24

Good luck, you'll be looking ripped after all that.

Jaap · 18th February 2012, 10:05

Needs to bulk up.

Justin · 18th February 2012, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silva

How much does it cost in pounds btw? I'm considering going next year, always been a fan of Muay Thai, even though last time I went I got my arse kicked by a bald 55 year old.

A bald Muay Thai fighter, it was Sagat wasn't it?

Silva · 18th February 2012, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

A bald Muay Thai fighter, it was Sagat wasn't it?

It might as well have been!

CassiusClaymore · 18th February 2012, 10:37

You won't put much muscle on.

But you should trim and tone up a fair bit.

Agent Red · 18th February 2012, 11:16

I went to Rawai Muay Thai for about 2 and half a weeks and noticed a big difference. Didn't weigh myself but I dropped a clothes size and noticed my muscles were more toned. Also in the heat I was eating less, and rarely drinking. If I had to guess I'd say I lost maybe half a stone?

In 2-3 months you should see a huge difference.

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silva

How much does it cost in pounds btw? I'm considering going next year, always been a fan of Muay Thai, even though last time I went I got my arse kicked by a bald 55 year old.

It's 10k baht for a months training which is £210. Accommodation options are numerous, you can get an extremely basic room for £100 pm all the way up to a pimped bungalow in a 4 star resort for £450 (my choice lol)

Thanks for the comments guys. More welcome...

Agent Red · 18th February 2012, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silva

How much does it cost in pounds btw? I'm considering going next year, always been a fan of Muay Thai, even though last time I went I got my arse kicked by a bald 55 year old.

Tiger is the most expensive I think. I went to Rawaii which was slightly cheaper.

Zarlak · 18th February 2012, 12:48

You got pics of the accommodation? Like Cassius said you won't put tonnes of muscle on in that short a time frame, but you will certainly lose quite a bit of weight and tone up.

Just checked their website out, £553 for 3 months of training? That's pretty nice.

Irwinwastheking · 18th February 2012, 13:09

Before I click on the topless pics links please tell me you're a hot bird!

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarlak

You got pics of the accommodation? Like Cassius said you won't put tonnes of muscle on in that short a time frame, but you will certainly lose quite a bit of weight and tone up.

Just checked their website out, £553 for 3 months of training? That's pretty nice.

Cocoville "Living in Paradise" is a Boutique Villas Resort. it's actually even nicer in real life. 10/10

So, reckon I can get to like 12-13% bf?

Zarlak · 18th February 2012, 13:23

What is your BF% at the moment? I can't click pics of topless men while I'm at work.

I'd love to do something like this, can't really see how it would be possible though with home plus bills to pay for but the concept certainly is nice.

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarlak

What is your BF% at the moment? I can't click pics of topless men while I'm at work.

I'd love to do something like this, can't really see how it would be possible though with home plus bills to pay for but the concept certainly is nice.

I think maybe 20-23% I'm guessing...

Zarlak · 18th February 2012, 13:36

Depends too be honest. It's also down to genes. You can usually see 1-2% a month loss in BF with a very good regime starting from where you are now, so if you did the full 3 months 6-9% is achievable I would say. Bearing in mind the situation in that Muay Thai camp looks ideal. It's far out and isolated, there are no distractions in the way of partying, stuffing your face, you can just eat the right foods and train hard every day if you hit the weights gym, and do all the classes.

Take your own protein supplements to last, they are massively massively overpriced out there.

Burndogg · 18th February 2012, 13:37

Prepare to become this man.

SiYuan · 18th February 2012, 13:40

You'd have issues bringing in protein supplements. Much easier just to get them from natural sources such as chicken, eggs which are abundant and cheap over there.

Last I heard protein powder was banned while steroids are semi-legal over there.

beardsleybob · 18th February 2012, 13:42

Have you been to a MT class before?

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarlak

Take your own protein supplements to last, they are massively massively overpriced out there.

Thank you for the very sound advice which I have found out in the last couple of hours to be very true. (I'm here already

lol)

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by beardsleybob

Have you been to a MT class before?

No actually

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarlak

Depends too be honest. It's also down to genes. You can usually see 1-2% a month loss in BF with a very good regime starting from where you are now, so if you did the full 3 months 6-9% is achievable I would say. Bearing in mind the situation in that Muay Thai camp looks ideal. It's far out and isolated, there are no distractions in the way of partying, stuffing your face, you can just eat the right foods and train hard every day if you hit the weights gym, and do all the classes.

So a lot of the weight dropped is water weight then?

Zarlak · 18th February 2012, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingMinger22

So a lot of the weight dropped is water weight then?

Yes, a lot of initial weight dropped is just water retention.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingMinger22

Thank you for the very sound advice which I have found out in the last couple of hours to be very true. (I'm here already

lol)

Ah, that's a shame. Like another poster said if you can get it all from food, do that. It's always better to get it from your food anyway, but some people can't eat as much as is required and I can't vouch for the quality of the food out there as I've never been. Since the protein out there though is massively overpriced and low in quality, if you're looking to build muscle mass rather than just lose weight you need to try and get it all from food if you can't get hold of your own good quality sources from outside.

beardsleybob · 18th February 2012, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingMinger22

No actually

I'd definitely allow for a week to prepare yourself then. I been training for over 2 years now, took a break over winter and finally went back on Tuesday. Was sore for 3 days. You can't just jump into a muay thai class and have no issues with the physicality, especially in Thailand itself where they go way rougher.

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by beardsleybob

I'd definitely allow for a week to prepare yourself then. I been training for over 2 years now, took a break over winter and finally went back on Tuesday. Was sore for 3 days. You can't just jump into a muay thai class and have no issues with the physicality, especially in Thailand itself where they go way rougher.

Thanks mate. I suspected that would be the case!

KingMinger22 · 18th February 2012, 15:22

I thought I'd mention my diet plan...

Protein shake just before 8-10.30 training
Three eggs, pouched or boiled, on brown toast after

Chicken/pork/beef/fish, small amount of brown rice and a ton of steamed veggies
This x 2 for lunch and dinner

Another protein shake at some point in the day when I want it

Chicken skewers for a snack in the evening

Water, coffee, maybe a tea of some sorts, diet coke
1-2 glasses of red in the evening

1 day off with a fair few San Miguel light beers and a footlong sandwich with all the good stuff

Any feedback on that please?

KingMinger22 · 19th February 2012, 18:05

Anyone any thoughts on that diet plan please? Look okay? Anything you would change?

CassiusClaymore · 19th February 2012, 18:13

If your goal is to lose fat and put on a bit of lean muscle then yeah it's fine.

I've put on a fair bit of muscle since I stopped kickboxing and just do weights. Your diet is not too dissimilar to mine.

Average day for me

Porridge for breakfast
Tuna and rice for lunch
Fruit and nuts to snack on
Protein shake after gym
Fish/Meat & steamed veg for dinner

Badunk · 19th February 2012, 18:27

You are drinking 1-2 glasses of red wine every night because......?

CassiusClaymore · 19th February 2012, 18:30

It tastes nice?

KingMinger22 · 20th February 2012, 09:06

Lol because it's yummy... Why?

iSparky · 20th February 2012, 09:30

Its a brave man who makes the decision to post topless pics of himself on the caf, good luck with the training camp

rimaldo · 20th February 2012, 09:47

are you ripped yet?

Badunk · 20th February 2012, 11:04

Drinking alcohol every night wont help you achieve anything, that's why.

MST3K · 20th February 2012, 15:33

how do you like Muay Thai KingMinger?

cesc's_mullet · 21st February 2012, 04:21

Kingminger can you stop saying fucking 'lol' for crying out loud? You'll never become a badarse tough Muay Thai boxer if you don't... Just saying...

KingMinger22 · 21st February 2012, 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by MST3K

how do you like Muay Thai KingMinger?

It's fucking great tbh. Learning how to batter people and getting fit at the same time

I would highly recommend it. There's a wonderful culture and history to it as well.

@Cesc got you!

lol

Jaap · 21st February 2012, 08:03

Could you leave the alcohol out? It'll only hamper your progress along the way.

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KingMinger22 City >>> United Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Banbury Posts: 2,883	Start Muay Thai training camp Monday for 2-3 months. What can I achieve? (Pics) Hi all, I know from reading previous threads that there are a lot of people on the caf that workout and have an interest in health and fitness etc... Some in Muay Thai also. Anyways, I am checking into tigermuaythai.com on Monday to begin training to lose my gut and get in better shape. I've spent the past four months traveling around SE Asia drinking lots everyday and I want to get rid of the added pad! I wanted to know what from sort of improvement in my physique I should be aiming for and what I can realistically expect to achieve. I am, like most, looking to drop some fat and tone up a little. I would love your thoughts on this please! Few stats to help - I am 25 in one month Weigh around 11 3/4 stone 5' 9" height I guesstimate around 22-23% body fat Some pics of me topless lol... http://i.imgur.com/96sQ7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/al101.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AdqbI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xuPbJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hCIFe.jpg I will be training 5 days per week for 2 or, if necessary, 3 months (any thoughts on timescale please?) Training will be 1 hour fitness/cardio fat burning type class 7-8am 1 1/2 hours Muay Thai training and technique Then, after a week or two I may start doing the afternoon class as well which is boxing, Muay Thai 2 hours. I may also do weight training for an 50 mins X 3 sessions a week beginning in the second or third week (depending on how sore I am lol) Am I correct that a reasonable amount of weight to lose per week is around 1 1/2 pounds? Also, a reasonable amount of muscle growth is 2 pounds per month? (not so sure about the later?) Anyways, thanks for any comments/help/info/tips/piss taking... Cheers

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Silva Sticky tip Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Its best if I don't tell you. Posts: 6,671	How much does it cost in pounds btw? I'm considering going next year, always been a fan of Muay Thai, even though last time I went I got my arse kicked by a bald 55 year old.

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Zarlak 3-0 and you messed it up! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 'I see the line, in the sand.... time to find out, who I am...' Soccer Manager - Manchester United. Posts: 15,844	Depends too be honest. It's also down to genes. You can usually see 1-2% a month loss in BF with a very good regime starting from where you are now, so if you did the full 3 months 6-9% is achievable I would say. Bearing in mind the situation in that Muay Thai camp looks ideal. It's far out and isolated, there are no distractions in the way of partying, stuffing your face, you can just eat the right foods and train hard every day if you hit the weights gym, and do all the classes. Take your own protein supplements to last, they are massively massively overpriced out there.

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KingMinger22 City >>> United Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Banbury Posts: 2,883	I thought I'd mention my diet plan... Protein shake just before 8-10.30 training Three eggs, pouched or boiled, on brown toast after Chicken/pork/beef/fish, small amount of brown rice and a ton of steamed veggies This x 2 for lunch and dinner Another protein shake at some point in the day when I want it Chicken skewers for a snack in the evening Water, coffee, maybe a tea of some sorts, diet coke 1-2 glasses of red in the evening 1 day off with a fair few San Miguel light beers and a footlong sandwich with all the good stuff Any feedback on that please?

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KingMinger22 City >>> United Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Banbury Posts: 2,883	Anyone any thoughts on that diet plan please? Look okay? Anything you would change?

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CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	If your goal is to lose fat and put on a bit of lean muscle then yeah it's fine. I've put on a fair bit of muscle since I stopped kickboxing and just do weights. Your diet is not too dissimilar to mine. Average day for me Porridge for breakfast Tuna and rice for lunch Fruit and nuts to snack on Protein shake after gym Fish/Meat & steamed veg for dinner

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