Start Muay Thai training camp Monday for 2-3 months. What can I achieve? (Pics)

Adzzz

I once walked into a roving band of Muay Thai experts, giving it large they were. I was calm and collected, told them to stop pretending to kick the trees - they were enraged, came at me from all angles, flying kicks, shin kicks, punches - going all out at me. Luckily, I used my Cambodian Mountain Goat Herding Special Forces training to systematically destroy them, using only my keys. Depending on the size of the oncoming Muay Thai master I would change the size of the key.

I unlocked them all.

PhilipB

Then why are you asking for advice and posting topless pictures you fucking doughnut. I hope you get Tae Kod into oblivion.

DouLou

It's going to be funny when he finishes his 2-3 months of training with no physical change in his body because he necked 2 glasses of wine daily and then binged on singhas and junk food once a week.

DouLou

I just found some footage of KingMinger sparring in his training camp!

KingMinger22

Ha we'll see. As I said, done it before and I was doing the 5 hours of ridiculously brutal training I am doing everyday now...

KingMinger22

I don't mean it like that at all. I was talking to the idiots who are jumping in the thread and writing one line bs comments.

I appreciate the feedback and info that others earlier in the thread kindly offered.

KingMinger22

I've been monitoring my eating/drinking this past week and am at 1500-1650 cals per day, with no starchy carbs whatsoever, just a splash of milk in the protein shakes and veggies for carbs. I'm yet to feel hungry or crave despite doing the toughest workouts I've ever done.


The trainers hit you with a stick if you mess up or go too slow I've yet to be whipped yet though...

Adzzz

True martial arts training is as much about the mind and controlling emotion as it is about physical development, training and learning.

Jaap

Cut the wine, KM, seriously... Might as well do it properly or you'll look like a right dick in a few months when we are eagerly awaiting your transformation.

Zarlak

Some of those "idiots writing one line BS comments" are bodybuilders with biceps bigger than your face. If you read the Protein thread half of the posters in here are in there, who hand out training and diet advice constantly.

Badunk

1500 cals + 5 hours training per day + hot climate + alcohol = death

RIP KM

PhilipB

How can you train at that intensity for 5 hours a day, in the sweltering heat and eat so little and not feel hungry?

KingMinger22

I'm not sure tbh. I am just chugging loads of water and protein shakes and it bloats you up I guess...

Jaap

Of course he is going to feel hungry - pretty normal if you're losing weight...

KingMinger22

I've decided to knock alcohol on the head for the next month. Wine costs a bomb here and I don't feel like. It on the days I train. I've. Ever gone even two weeks without a drink so I might as well. It's not hard, it's just I have always been in and atmosphere where people are going out drinking/partying etc. I'm not now, well, some people do but I'm not here to make buddies

cesc's_mullet

So in other words you've caved to the pressure and abuse on here. Well done, it's actually for the best.

Agent Red

You can make buddies there without drinking. None of us drank at our camp except a casual beer on a Saturday evening perhaps. I think you've made the right choice for what it's worth.

De Selby

And you'll make even more buddies if you stop using full stops in the middle of sentences.

cesc's_mullet

^

and 'lol's.'

pocco

Whats the thinking behind cutting right down on calories but taking protein? What sort of effect will that have?

Zarlak

protein aids muscle repair, calories put on weight. So less calories = less weight, more protein = muscles build faster after you rip them apart in the gym.

Agent Red

Although if you've got a negative calorific intake, will your muscles still build?

Burrow

Yes

Agent Red

Ah ok, someone posted the other day in the powerplate thread about how you could only build muscle with a calorific surplus.

FortBoyard

Controversial issue that one Agent.

KM

I'm here buddy, but thanks for the concern.

pocco

Just seems odd to drop calories below recommended daily allowance. I think you'd have to get your diet absolutely spot on if you were going to attempt what he is doing as your body needs more than protein.

I'm also wondering just how torn up your muscles will get from Muay Thai. Is the protein necessary? Once he adopts to the pace of it, it's just going to be like a fitness regime more than anything. It seems almost counter productive to take protein if weight loss is his main goal.

Badunk

It was me that said you need a calorific surplus to add muscle. All you can hope to do on a diet is maintain as much muscle as you can, and this is where protein helps. And before anyone quotes Leangains or something similar, I'm talking about an old-fashioned diet where you are in a calorific deficit 100% of the time.

Agent Red

Oh right, I was just curious rather than looking to try it out myself.

I just exercise and do weights every now and then for general fitness/weight loss. I've never tried to build muscle but notice them getting stronger when I'm doing more yoga or weights, though that might just be because there's less fat around them I suppose!

Vato1979

KingMinger22

Has anyone any tips as to how I can maintain my energy levels during the 2 1/2 hour training sesh? I mean, something suitable to eat beforehand that isn't high cals/glucose and won't hamper the whole fat burning point of it?

I'm feeling a little bit fatigued/low on energy sometimes in training which I suppose is normal in the heat. I drink a shit ton of water before anyone asks!

My diet has been strict as hell this past week. 1500-1650 cals per day. Only carbs are from milk and bananas in protein shakes and veg.

Instead of having a cheat day, I am having a cheat meal on Thursday (bagel with roast beef) and Sunday (Steak and chips, oh yeahh). I figure this will keep my sanity and metabalism in check.

Agent Red

Yeah, I'd just have carbs as normal. I don't really believe in cutting stuff out, just cutting down on it. Having a little bit of rice a day is not going to see you gain weight with the amount of training you're doing.

I used to eat pretty much whatever I wanted when I was there. Though I'd only have two meals a day (breakfast after morning training and dinner in the evening after afternoon training). And I'd try to avoid the coconut milk curries and stuff.

KingMinger22

Two meals a day!? Jeez. Hope they were big or you snacked?

Yeah, a meal without carbs just doesn't taste or sit right tbh. I'm gonna stick at limiting it for now though...

(God I miss potatos and bread lol)

Pogue Mahone

Jaysus, you're in Thailand and you're eating roast beef bagels and steak and chips?!?

Seems like madness to me to massively cut down on carbs/calories while doing intensive exercise. Makes no sense at all. No wonder you're flaked out. No doubt the muscle mary's in the gym thread will have an opinion though.

Uzz

Dried fruits are perfect. Also, dates are fantastic (try and get hold of madjool dates). Secondly nuts are also good but obv. Some come with high fat content. If I could remember off the top of my head id tell you which ones are best. Almonds are also good.

KingMinger22

Lol Phuket is probably about half-farang (westereners). Think costa del sol with an Asia twist.

And thai food is great but gets boring and nothing sits as nice in me than good ol' western grub!

Calorie deficit is what I need to burn the fat so cutting it down a good bit below what I'm burning has to be done unfortunately. I have been maybe going a little bit too low this week though. I had a pack of peanut M&Ms after weights today. Four days of low carbs had my body crying out for some yummy sugar.

Thanks for the replies. I'll try dried fruit.

Eating healthy is mostly dull but I'm going to see it out!

Jaap

You have already cheated with your ''cheat meal'' on Thursday, and another bad food yesterday. I mean, you want changes, positive changes and of course you're going to feel hungry, depressed and perhaps angry, that's normal though.

I have said it before, mate, you might as well do it properly and steak with chips as well as sweets like M&Ms are not going to help you achieve your goals and let me tell you: once you have finished and your 2-3 month course/''training'' is over, not seeing any results and people not complementing you on your work and weight loss - that will really hit you hard (speaking form experience here before eventually doing it right).

KingMinger22

I am eating fuckin 1700 calories MAX (usually 1500) a day and training for 2 1/2 hours intensely. Our trainer said we should be eating a minimum of 3000 calories to avoid muscle loss. I will drop a shit ton of weight. I have already dropped 2 1/2 KGs in two weeks, although I am sure a lot of that will be water weight.

I've done this before, three times and not nearly as strictly and rigorously as this and had GREAT results. I suppose it depends on your body type, age etc. It took me 4 months of drinking everyday and eating a ridiculous amount of oil-bathed carbs to get on to the higher end of 'normal' for BF and BM.

You do not have to turn in to a mentalist to lose weight. It is easy; cut cals, cut carbs/sat fat, workout.

A bagel with roast beef, sliced eggs and salad for lunch is not bad food btw.

Jaap

I'm just saying - leave out the sweets and bad foods and your results will be even better.

KingMinger22

Yeah, got you. Thanks