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Old 24th August 2011, 22:26   #201 (permalink)
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Also, watch out for a couple of wolves 'accusing' each other early on when no one is a genuine suspect. When one is lynched their disagreement or whatever will be used as evidence to why they're not a wolf.
lol. way to incriminate both us.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:27   #202 (permalink)
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lol. way to incriminate both us.
of us.

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Old 24th August 2011, 22:28   #203 (permalink)
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I am confused though why you don't want to be checked Top. Fine you maybe a villager but surely you can see from a village point of view everyone would prefer to know your allegiance and verify that you can be trusted?
Because I suspect by the time the Seer comes out and verify my allegiance to the village, I'll be dead. Thus it'd be a waste.

By the way, you going offline and then suddenly appearing with one thought-out post makes me suspicious of you.

Heh, I love being able to just post whatever comes through my mind this time around
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:28   #204 (permalink)
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I'm going to make this very clear. I have no issues with the Seer checking me out, I was literally screaming for the Seers to check me, Top and Crappy out last game. It makes perfect sense to check out the people you deem to be the best players early on.

I am confused though why you don't want to be checked Top. Fine you maybe a villager but surely you can see from a village point of view everyone would prefer to know your allegiance and verify that you can be trusted?

I can understand that you may think it would be a wasted vote but Crappy made it to turn 7 last game. Either way at least I know I have no responsibilities in the game this time. A refreshing change
What did you think of the point that some where making that I was doing the wolfs jobs for them by drawing up a list and that this was a pointless exercise?
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:30   #205 (permalink)
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What did you think of the point that some where making that I was doing the wolfs jobs for them by drawing up a list and that this was a pointless exercise?
You weren't doing the wolf's exercise for them but it was a pointless exercise.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:30   #206 (permalink)
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What did you think of the point that some where making that I was doing the wolfs jobs for them by drawing up a list and that this was a pointless exercise?
we have witnesses and bodyguards though. It would make sense to have them follow those newly declared.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:30   #207 (permalink)
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Too much to read so I've decided to read only Top's posts.


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Invisible mode rocks as a wolf! Except when Mehro the mod plays and you fear he'll tell everyone you're just lurking when shit hits the fan.
I dont get it. If I was a wolf I would want to be highly active and not sue the invisible mode at all.

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Yeah Irwin, I agree, those 6 are the dangerous players. The wolves should kill those 6.
I think the wolves should kill Top tonight. I dont like him.

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Heh, in truth I disagree with your list.

No one really listens to Mehro, Phelan, Scrumpet or Vivs. They haven't managed to influence the village so far. Vivs only did so because of her role.
Of course people listen to me, you cnut. Watch me get you lynched tomorrow. And I did influence the village in the last game although that got 2 villagers killed.

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That's just because I was on the evil side, and you missed me, you big gay Indian.
I didn't exactly miss you. I hadnt ruled you out. But I was surer on Sky.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:31   #208 (permalink)
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What did you think of the point that some where making that I was doing the wolfs jobs for them by drawing up a list and that this was a pointless exercise?
I think its fairly obvious who the experienced pro players are in this game. The Wolves will know this and be looking to take some out early doors, thats what I would do anyway.

What we can't risk is the Seer picking targets who are obvious villagers like Vivs did with some of her choices last game. I have faith that the Seers will choose wisely this time around. Go for people who are lurking in the background and not really saying/doing much would be my tactic.

As for the Witness role. I know just how goddamn difficult it is, does he go for the safe option? Does he go for the risky option? There could be 2/3 choices for each option. Frankly its a lottery, espically early on in the game.

Its about trying to second guess the Wolves tactics rather than protecting pro players. Thats my advise anyway.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:33   #209 (permalink)
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lol. way to incriminate both us.
I only jumped on you because you were new, and a Liverpool fan!

It is easier to act naive as a newbie as suspicious comments can be defended with it
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:33   #210 (permalink)
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Because I suspect by the time the Seer comes out and verify my allegiance to the village, I'll be dead. Thus it'd be a waste.

By the way, you going offline and then suddenly appearing with one thought-out post makes me suspicious of you.

Heh, I love being able to just post whatever comes through my mind this time around


I'm just going to be a bit more logical this time around and go back to my style of Game 1. I think at times I let excitement cloud my judgement last game and therefore i'm going back to being calm, cool and logical. Vulcan like
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:33   #211 (permalink)
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I didn't exactly miss you. I hadnt ruled you out. But I was surer on Sky.
I meant miss as in longing for my helpful presence. You're the Robin to my Batman, gayo.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:34   #212 (permalink)
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So basically, everyone has a role except 4 of us who are plain villagers, right?
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Funny enough, I would have the witness and bodyguard also follow Crappy and Redsky tonight if I had my own way.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:36   #214 (permalink)
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Er, there isn't a bodyguard... just the witness!
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:36   #215 (permalink)
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I find crappy harder to read than RedSky so if we have to choose between them then check out crappy. But honestly Top was pretty good as a wolf last time and he's playing very different this around. Which could mean that maybe he's changing his game to throw off the villagers? Same goes for Irwin. I dont remember him being so active before.
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So basically, everyone has a role except 4 of us who are plain villagers, right?
It's like shawshank in here.

Everyone of us will be claiming to be a plain villager so 23 people are liars.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:36   #217 (permalink)
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Funny enough, I would have the witness and bodyguard also follow Crappy and Redsky tonight if I had my own way.
Nah the witness should follow me. Or not. Or do. Do you dare take the chances, wolves? Well do you, punks!?
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:37   #218 (permalink)
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Er, there isn't a bodyguard... just the witness!
I was just going by B9's post 206.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:38   #219 (permalink)
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So basically, everyone has a role except 4 of us who are plain villagers, right?
Depends. The four lovers and the ghost could have other roles and the priests probably haven't trained anyone yet. At most there are 21 players with roles other than just Villager (plus 2 priests to come), or there could be just 16.
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I find crappy harder to read than RedSky so if we have to choose between them then check out crappy. But honestly Top was pretty good as a wolf last time and he's playing very different this around. Which could mean that maybe he's changing his game to throw off the villagers? Same goes for Irwin. I dont remember him being so active before.
I don't know what I would have done, had I been named a wolf again. I actually think I dislike this game, when I'm a wolf. That's why I was actually telling you the truth in the last game when I told you I was fed up with the game. I hate, hate being a wolf.

Being a villager makes the game so much more fun.
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It's like shawshank in here.

Everyone of us will be claiming to be a plain villager so 23 people are liars.
There is a 85% chance you're lieing.
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Nah the witness should follow me. Or not. Or do. Do you dare take the chances, wolves? Well do you, punks!?
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I find crappy harder to read than RedSky so if we have to choose between them then check out crappy. But honestly Top was pretty good as a wolf last time and he's playing very different this around. Which could mean that maybe he's changing his game to throw off the villagers? Same goes for Irwin. I dont remember him being so active before.
I've been one of the top 2-3 posters in every game I've played up until I got lynched wrongly each time.

Please read Zarlaks post in the last page and allow yourself to absorb his words of wisdom.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:39   #224 (permalink)
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Nah. I'm gonna base 90% of my theories on the previous games. If people had done so in the last game, then you'd have quickly noticed that me and Sky were wolves due to our sudden change in styles.

It's our biggest clues. At least for me. You can play it any way you like.
Not really, it's irrelevant information. It would be a silly idea for anyone to play the next game the same way they did in the game before, talk about giving away a pattern for people to work you out with! Everybody remembers the last game. It would make more sense to assume that everybody is going to post differently, rather than treat it as suspicious.

Maybe too much emphasis was put on the way I said to shut up about it, what I meant was stop making it paramount. For example in game 1 I was heavily vocal, in game 2 I planned to be quiet but I had to be vocal because of vivs, game 3 I was quiet because I was busy and I was accused of being a wolf. On all 3 occasions I was a villager. This has happened with other innocent people as well.

The catching you and Sky as wolves because of your change in posting styles is outweighed by all the innocent villagers and PVs that have been outed/forced to waste our time defending themselves because it's been pointed out that they are posting differently to a game that's no longer relevant when the criteria changes from game to game.

So maybe it would be good if you notice straight away something that's massively different, but the whole 'omg this guy is posting less than he did last time, that means he's a wolf' and then 5 people going 'oh yeah! you're right! Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!' etc is silly, what's the point in trying to come up with theories and think about the game, if someone is just going to say 'this guy is acting differently to how he did a few weeks ago, I reckon I've cracked the case' etc. Such a big deal is made out of things and before you know it it's like the persons just come out and said 'I'm a wolf' when it's nowhere near.
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Old 24th August 2011, 22:40   #225 (permalink)
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It's like shawshank in here.

Everyone of us will be claiming to be a plain villager so 23 people are liars.
Interesting. The chances of a PV getting slaughtered in the morning are very high in that case.
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I don't know what I would have done, had I been named a wolf again. I actually think I dislike this game, when I'm a wolf. That's why I was actually telling you the truth in the last game when I told you I was fed up with the game. I hate, hate being a wolf.

Being a villager makes the game so much more fun.

I dont know. First game was a lot of fun. Second one, not really. Not sure why.
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I dont know. First game was a lot of fun. Second one, not really. Not sure why.
Probably due to my awsome wolves kicking booty

Shame PJ was kicked off as inactive otherwise we'd have the best wolf survival rate!
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I dont know. First game was a lot of fun. Second one, not really. Not sure why.
We'll make this one fun then.
I've decided I'm teaming up with you. We'll take down these wolf bastards one by one.
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I've been one of the top 2-3 posters in every game I've played up until I got lynched wrongly each time.

Please read Zarlaks post in the last page and allow yourself to absorb his words of wisdom.

Sorry. I have a rubbish memory. Seer, can you check out irwin in that case?
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Sorry. I have a rubbish memory. Seer, can you check out irwin in that case?
I've missed yo-yo Mehro.
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Sorry. I have a rubbish memory. Seer, can you check out irwin in that case?
Hence why I think we should base very little on peoples perceptions of earlier games. I said this in the sign-up thread and I quoted that post in page two of this thread.
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Probably due to my awsome wolves kicking booty

Shame PJ was kicked off as inactive otherwise we'd have the best wolf survival rate!
I meant the third one. I left the second one after day 1.

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I've decided I'm teaming up with you. We'll take down these wolf bastards one by one.
Hehe. Lets do it.
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Sorry. I have a rubbish memory. Seer, can you check out irwin in that case?
Lets just lynch the fecker like normal and be done with it!

Joking of course Irwin!!!
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Seer - whoever you are, check who you want and not what people are suggesting.

The only thing people are being suggested on is experience and past games, which has no bearing on this game at all. Whoever the seers are, we won't know for a few days anyway so it's rather pointless throwing every name around and making lists
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I meant the third one. I left the second one after day 1.
Oh yeah, that was the reason why we went after lynching Irwin! Now I remember

Fuckin ell, my memmorys just as bad as yours!
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Hence why I think we should base very little on peoples perceptions of earlier games. I said this in the sign-up thread and I quoted that post in page two of this thread.
Your past behavior was what had me so convinced you weren't a wolf in game 2, when quite a few started suspecting you. The same with Sky.
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Lets just lynch the fecker like normal and be done with it!

Joking of course Irwin!!!
I usually last to turn 2-3.

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Hehe. Lets do it.
It'll be awesome, we'll be like Superior Masons, doing our communication out in the open.
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Seer - whoever you are, check who you want and not what people are suggesting.

The only thing people are being suggested on is experience and past games, which has no bearing on this game at all. Whoever the seers are, we won't know for a few days anyway so it's rather pointless throwing every name around and making lists
Lists are very useful, but it's best to be making them private at this stage. If you post the list now the wolves will react to it, if you keep it for a bit and observe who votes where and how and keep it quiet, the wolves don't know they've been picked up on, you can come out later and say well X voted with Y twice and stuck up for him in this post and then again here and etc etc etc, rather than posting real time updates that the wolves can react to. That's one of the problems with these games so far is that it's a double edged sword, if you stay quiet you're voted off for inactivity, if you come out and say what you think when you think, the wolves will read it and think 'huh, he's got a good point, let's do exactly the opposite.'

Where as if you watch first and come out with quite a few bits of damming evidence that it's too late for them to react to, you're onto a winner but you don't really get a chance to do it.
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Your past behavior was what had me so convinced you weren't a wolf in game 2, when quite a few started suspecting you. The same with Sky.
But as proved in the previous game I'll put the game above myself, and even though this saved me before I think it does more harm than good.
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