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Old 4th October 2011, 13:37   #481 (permalink)
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And what can you do with injuries?
Make sure you have squad that can handle injuries.
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Old 4th October 2011, 13:44   #482 (permalink)
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From Physioroom.com

W Szczesny Back Injury 16th Oct 11
B Sagna Broken Leg Dec 11
J Djourou Hamstring Injury no return date
T Vermaelen Achilles Tendinopathy 29th Oct 11
S Squillaci Calf Muscle Strain no return date
J Wilshere Ankle/Foot Injury Jan 12
V Diaby Ankle/Foot Injury 8th Oct 11

That's 5 defenders, plus their first choice keeper, out.

But yeah their squad should be like ours, no excuse for Wenger there.
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Sir Chesney is injured?
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Old 4th October 2011, 14:09   #484 (permalink)
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I swear, if someone had predicted Arsenal's transfers before the summer, everyone would have told him to get the fuck out. There would be no way anyone could preside over such a disaster, almost deliberate sabotage, of a transfer summer. It simply wouldn't have been believable.
It might well set us back a decade. If we don't get CL football, you won't see players wanting to join us anymore, and we might well just slip further and further away from the top. It's been an unmitigated disaster, and it's just offensive when Gazidis comes out and says that we got the majority of the targets on our list. Since when did our transfer target list include Benayoun or Mertesacker?
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Old 4th October 2011, 14:11   #485 (permalink)
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It might well set us back a decade. If we don't get CL football, you won't see players wanting to join us anymore, and we might well just slip further and further away from the top. It's been an unmitigated disaster, and it's just offensive when Gazidis comes out and says that we got the majority of the targets on our list. Since when did our transfer target list include Benayoun or Mertesacker?
Out of curiosity what would you say is Arsenal's strongest back 4?
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Who is their defensive coach? Surely he must take some responsibility here seeing as it is up to him to organise them?
They don't have one. Wenger ridiculed the need for one because he has '32 years of coaching experience'.

If I were a gooner fan, I would be extremely concerned by this Hodgsonism.
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Sir Chesney is injured?
Hurt his back throwing the javelin.
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Szczesny joins injury list | Sky Sports | Football | Premier League | News
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Out of curiosity what would you say is Arsenal's strongest back 4?
As it stands - Gibbs, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Sagna. Currently, one of them is fit, and he's the most injury prone of the lot.
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That feels like an 'international injury'. God help them if he misses any Arsenal games.
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Santos was signed because Gibbs is inexperienced, so strange to see Gibbs starting and Santos sitting on the bench.
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Santos was signed because Gibbs is inexperienced, so strange to see Gibbs starting and Santos sitting on the bench.
I don't think Wenger planned on signing a leftback to begin with. He got shocked into signing one.
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You're one to talk, you needed Atkinson to get a win against Everton
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Santos was signed because Gibbs is inexperienced, so strange to see Gibbs starting and Santos sitting on the bench.
No, Santos was signed because we needed two senior left-backs. Wenger realised it would just be suicide to go into a season with an injury-prone Gibbs and Jenkinson.
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How is Santos playing?
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How is Santos playing?
Too early to judge. Seems like he might live up to the reputation of being dodgy defensively and good going forward.
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Sir Chesney is injured?
Poland are playing South Korea in Seoul, it's an idiotic friendly, we're all sure he's just rested and Arsenal should be happy - he'll be still in form, still the same time zone, he'll get a break and Fabiański will get at least 90 minutes of football.
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Old 4th October 2011, 14:40   #498 (permalink)
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You're one to talk, you needed Atkinson to get a win against Everton
Why do you get so offended over Arsenal?

Oh and anyway, injuries won't be the cause of Arsenal's failure to finish top4, their pathetic transfer business will.
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Old 4th October 2011, 14:48   #499 (permalink)
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You're one to talk, you needed Atkinson to get a win against Everton
We will never know if we need him, will we?

Not that it has any kind of relevance here.
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Why do you get so offended over Arsenal?

Oh and anyway, injuries won't be the cause of Arsenal's failure to finish top4, their pathetic transfer business will.
two way street, imo. They can say they have bad luck with injuries (though I've read some blogs placing the blame for this squarely at wenger's feet as it has been going on for years now), but equally so their injuries only serve to expose how weak their squad has become because of their transfer strategy.
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Old 4th October 2011, 14:57   #501 (permalink)
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two way street, imo. They can say they have bad luck with injuries (though I've read some blogs placing the blame for this squarely at wenger's feet as it has been going on for years now), but equally so their injuries only serve to expose how weak their squad has become because of their transfer strategy.
Injuries cannot be blames for the situation the find themselves in. Every tom dick and harry knows that vermaelen has been injury prone for a while. Same with RVP. But, wenger refuses to address that. they act surprised and moan about their luckl when vermaelen gets injured and will do the curse their luck with injuries again when RVP has his customary time out.

Every team has their share of injuries. some are prepared for it with good squads while some try and paper over the cracks and are eventually found out.

how can one explain Jerkinson as the only cover for your RB slot? or am i mistaken here and they actually have someone to cover for sagna?
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No, Santos was signed because we needed two senior left-backs. Wenger realised it would just be suicide to go into a season with an injury-prone Gibbs and Jenkinson.
He's clearly supposed to be an upgrade on Gibbs.
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two way street, imo. They can say they have bad luck with injuries (though I've read some blogs placing the blame for this squarely at wenger's feet as it has been going on for years now), but equally so their injuries only serve to expose how weak their squad has become because of their transfer strategy.
I'm not sure why does Arsenal gets the liberty to use the injury excuse every time. I mean if you've players like Vermaelen, Diaby, Djourou and RVP in your squad, then you're bound to get injuries. Every year they seem to have an injury crisis, I'm sure there is a reason for that.
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I've seen Liverpool and Spurs recently and we look better than both (only losing both games due to shit reffing).
Arsenal have won just 5 of their last 19 league games, whilst Spurs have won 6 of their last 8 league games ... and that includes beating Liverpool both home and away.

And since last season’s Carling Cup final you've gained just 19 points from a possible 57.

Bury your head in the sand if you wish and write it all off as just bad luck and refereeing injustice. But the rot goes deep.
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I've seen Liverpool and Spurs recently and we look better than both (only losing both games due to shit reffing).
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He's clearly supposed to be an upgrade on Gibbs.
Clearly not. Gibbs is deemed to be the future, whilst Santos is supposed to be a reliable back up.
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how highly is gibbs rated at Arsenal? I don't see him being that special.
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how highly is gibbs rated at Arsenal? I don't see him being that special.
Rated extortionately highly by the club, and looks promising when he's not injured. But he is injured a lot, as most of our players are.
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Clearly not. Gibbs is deemed to be the future, whilst Santos is supposed to be a reliable back up.
Gibbs is deemed to be the future, hence Santos is deemed to be the present.
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Gibbs is deemed to be the future, hence Santos is deemed to be the present.
Christ.

A player can only be the future if he plays in the present.
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Christ.

A player can only be the future if he plays in the present.
Wenger was obviously planning to go with Gibbs but decided he wasn't good enough, hence why he tried to sign Enrique.

When he failed to sign Enrique he signed Santos instead.
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But he didn't try to sign Enrique. You're normally pedantic, but this is just wrong.
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Rated extortionately highly by the club, and looks promising when he's not injured. But he is injured a lot, as most of our players are.
What were you going for there?
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What were you going for there?
It's a word, I'm sure.
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But he didn't try to sign Enrique. You're normally pedantic, but this is just wrong.
Oh the irony.

It was widely reported that Arsenal were in talks with Enrique's representatives.

I distinctly remember one article in The Times for a start.
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Oh the irony.

It was widely reported that Arsenal were in talks with Enrique's representatives.

I distinctly remember one article in The Times for a start.
I love the way that you choose to believe things in the papers about Arsenal, but you wouldn't if it was United related. We were never in for him.
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Why do you get so offended over Arsenal?

Oh and anyway, injuries won't be the cause of Arsenal's failure to finish top4, their pathetic transfer business will.
I can't have a dig at Liverpool? Fuck off and keep stepping

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Wenger was obviously planning to go with Gibbs but decided he wasn't good enough, hence why he tried to sign Enrique.

When he failed to sign Enrique he signed Santos instead.
Agree with this, saw it on a few sites elsewhere.

I think Arsenal's reluctance to buy early undermined their hand in the transfer market. Once they sold Nasri and Fabregas, clubs started jacking up the prices. They should have gone for the likes of Mata as early as January of last season.
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I love the way that you choose to believe things in the papers about Arsenal, but you wouldn't if it was United related. We were never in for him.
you should have been though. Looking top class for us so far.
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They should have gone for the likes of Mata as early as January of last season.
This is the thing. They should have been looking for players like this to supplement the likes of Nasri and Fabregas, not replace them.
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To be fair, Nasri was leaving the moment City waved pound notes at him. As for Fabregas, people have been predicting his departure as long as 4 years back. Your broader point still stands though
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